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Old 10-14-2007, 08:22 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Did you turbo it? Because GTP's come with a roots style supercharger

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I seem to remember an oldschool version (late 80's?) was turbocharged. Ran high 14's, which for back in that time was pretty damn quick.

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Oddly enough, in 1989, Pontiac teamed up with ASC/McLaren to build a turbocharged version of the Grand Prix, that they produced for two years.
That's the one I was thinking of! Googling it now

I'm into lightweight platforms stuffed with turbo 4 cyl mills. They're a lot of fun

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Old 10-15-2007, 05:47 AM   #42 (permalink)
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^ my neighbor across the street has a factory original turbocharged Firebird, which is why I happen to know a little about it. The 1980 Pontiac Firebird came out with a turbocharged 301ci V8 motor option.
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:49 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I drive a 2.4L 4-cylinder turbo Dodge Neon SRT-4. I test drove an LS2 GTO and I wasn't impressed. N/A V8s aren't as fun as turbo 4-cylinders if you ask me...they don't have the push-you-back effect that makes driving fast cars fun. The gas mileage sucks ass if you put out its 5.3 second 0 to 60 MPH often but if you drive it without using the turbo then the mileage is in the mid twenties.

If I didn't have a fast car, I would definitely go for a huge ass V8 though. Caprice Classics, Towncars, Crown Vics, etc. are my cup of tea when driving a car that is supposed to haul you around instead of slaughtering people at stop lights.

The thing that pushes you back is torque....I'd think an LS2 has more than an SRT-4. Also, LS2 GTO's get like 27 MPG highway, and 21 in town, good friend of mine has one.

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Old 10-15-2007, 03:49 PM   #44 (permalink)
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4.7L v8 here. It's an '04 Dodge Dakota 4x4.

My next vehicle (which won't be until the wheels fall off of this one) will probably be a diesel. Mostly for the longevity, and for tree-hugging environmentalist reasons (ability to run on renewable bio-diesel).
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:15 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I drive a 2.4L 4-cylinder turbo Dodge Neon SRT-4. I test drove an LS2 GTO and I wasn't impressed. N/A V8s aren't as fun as turbo 4-cylinders if you ask me...they don't have the push-you-back effect that makes driving fast cars fun. The gas mileage sucks ass if you put out its 5.3 second 0 to 60 MPH often but if you drive it without using the turbo then the mileage is in the mid twenties.

If I didn't have a fast car, I would definitely go for a huge ass V8 though. Caprice Classics, Towncars, Crown Vics, etc. are my cup of tea when driving a car that is supposed to haul you around instead of slaughtering people at stop lights.
400 ft/lb tq and it doesn't push you back in your seat?
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:28 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I'm a big fan of the Z32 TT engine. The 300ZX's were not the prettiest of the 90's japanese sports cars, but I find the twin turbo 300 to be one of the most street-friendly yet precise and powerful cars in the price range. At the time the engine was the hight of technology, and even today it's pretty hard to find a modern comparison. Great blend of low-RPM torque and revvy long legged horsies, with very little turbo lag.

I'm not a huge fan of fourbangers, but the Audi and VW 2.0T is an engine I have nothing but respect for. Definitely not a race car powerplant, but it does give you a great mix of economy and instant go that is sorely lacked in most entry level cars today.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:39 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I can't resist putting in a plug for the biggest ...as far as I know it's the biggest... and I'm waiting for Jay Leno to put one of these in a hot rod. How about 25,480 liters (1,556,002 cubic inches) so it's not a measly big block Chevy.

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

The Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel engine is the most powerful and most efficient prime-mover in the world today. The Aioi Works of Japan's Diesel United, Ltd built the first engines and is where some of these pictures were taken. It is available in 6 through 14 cylinder versions, all are inline engines. These engines were designed primarily for very large container ships. Ship owners like a single engine/single propeller design and the new generation of larger container ships needed a bigger engine to propel them.

The cylinder bore is just under 38" and the stroke is just over 98". Each cylinder displaces 111,143 cubic inches (1820 liters) and produces 7780 horsepower. Total displacement comes out to 1,556,002 cubic inches (25,480 liters) for the fourteen cylinder version.

Some facts on the 14 cylinder version:
Total engine weight: 2300 tons (The crankshaft alone weighs 300 tons.)
Length: 89 feet
Height: 44 feet
Maximum power: 108,920 hp at 102 rpm
Maximum torque: 5,608,312 lb/ft at 102rpm

To give a little perspective, here's the crankshaft:
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:12 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Retarded inbred-gone-abortion horror story domestic vehicles that give Americans a bad name:

Chevy Avalanche / Cadillac Escalade -> 8.1 L 325 hp V8
Pontiac Aztek / Buick Rendezvous -> 3.4 L V6 @ 4043 lbs

I'd rather have anal sex with an African black rhino than drive one of those.

I mean, seriously...

DON'T BUY THESE VEHICLES. KILL YOURSELF FIRST.

I'm so insulted by them simply existing in the same reality as me that I'm going NEAR another species in a sexual manner.

The first pair get like .8 MPG with their American Ignorance engines (gas'll never run out, n'yuck!).

The second pair have less balls (power-to-weight) than Lance Armstrong (putt-putt-putt-cough-oh-fuck-it).



Hatch / trunk isn't a door.
While you ARE entitled to your own opinion, try and be a little more accurate on your data. Yes the 8.1 litre engine is not exactly fuel efficient, however it DOES get 19 MPG on the highway. not bad for such a large V-8.

Secondly, the common nomenclature for a car that is a hatchback (not truck, but actually vehicle access point from the rear) IS classified as a 5-door model. They started calling them by that name in the 70's to separate them from the sedan versions. But of course the common nomenclature of a "hatchback" became more common place.
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:34 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:59 AM   #50 (permalink)
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So what do I have, a 4.7L V-8 Dakota, a 360 V-8 in my avitar and a 258 inline 6 n/a in my AMC. The 6 in the AMC will soon be replaced by a 360 V-8

But I am w/ Tarzan on the boosted 6's. I had a Ranger back in high school that had the 4.0L V-6 w/ a Paxton supercharger. I think I had about 300 hp out of that little truck and loved whooping up on V-8 Mustang azz back in the early 90's.

What will my next truck be? A Dodge Ram w/ the 6.7 diesel b/c I love the torque.
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:52 AM   #51 (permalink)
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While you ARE entitled to your own opinion, try and be a little more accurate on your data. Yes the 8.1 litre engine is not exactly fuel efficient, however it DOES get 19 MPG on the highway. not bad for such a large V-8.
Accurate data? I was being sarcastic. Data I did provide comes from GM.

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You drive an Avalanche, huh? Good ride if you can afford the $100 fill-ups.

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Old 10-22-2007, 11:52 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Just skimming through this I saw a quote for 19 MPG!

7.5 tonne Transit vans get better mileage than that!
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:39 PM   #53 (permalink)
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V8's for me and in a light enough car you can mileage. I'd consider a turbo 2L 4 banger but only in a very light weight vehicle around 1500 lbs.
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Old 10-26-2007, 10:04 AM   #54 (permalink)
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in the past I drove a '78 Olds Delta 88 V8 and a '79 Chrysler LeBaron V8. MOved quickly to a Chevette, Tercel (4cyls obviously) and then a Caravan (6 cyl).

I currently have a '97 Jetta GT (4 cyl) & a 2007 Rav4 (6 cyl) and can confidently say that the Rav4 has the most response, power (269 hp) and best gas consumption of all of these vehicles.

I can go around 130 on the highway and the tack is at 2100. And super quiet. I love it.
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Old 10-26-2007, 10:42 AM   #55 (permalink)
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in the past I drove a '78 Olds Delta 88 V8 and a '79 Chrysler LeBaron V8. MOved quickly to a Chevette, Tercel (4cyls obviously) and then a Caravan (6 cyl).

I currently have a '97 Jetta GT (4 cyl) & a 2007 Rav4 (6 cyl) and can confidently say that the Rav4 has the most response, power (269 hp) and best gas consumption of all of these vehicles.

I can go around 130 on the highway and the tack is at 2100. And super quiet. I love it.
I also recently got an '07 RAV4 V6, like it a lot, and it surprised me how peppy it is. Before winter sets in I plan to take it to Atco Dragway to see what kind of et it can make ...high 14's is what I think they usually do.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:38 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I can not imagine driving anything under 8 cylinders. My daily is an '81 Corvette. Thinking of swapping the 350 small block for a 454 big block.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:46 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I can not imagine driving anything under 8 cylinders. My daily is an '81 Corvette. Thinking of swapping the 350 small block for a 454 big block.
I'd say the weight isn't worth it....you should be able to get the power you want out of a well built 350

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Old 01-04-2008, 08:50 PM   #58 (permalink)
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i've owned cars with everything from n/a 4's up to small V8's. my favorite was an '02 WRX. that little turbo 2.0L was fast and the car stuck to the road like glue. the next would be the V6 in an '04 Accord. very smooth power for city driving and had some oomph when needed. got decent mileage too.
my least favorite was a n/a 4 in an old Escort. 0-60 in a week to 10 days.
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:48 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I like a good old inline 6...like my 5.9 Cummins Turbo Diesel just dynoed at 457 HP/993 TQ ...but then my alternate choice would be the old V-twin configuration...My Springer (Twin-Cam) dynoed at 104 HP/112 TQ
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:00 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I also recently got an '07 RAV4 V6, like it a lot, and it surprised me how peppy it is. Before winter sets in I plan to take it to Atco Dragway to see what kind of et it can make ...high 14's is what I think they usually do.

Did you manage to take your Rav out to the Dragway?

-- I'm still loving mine.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:07 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Still loving mine, too. But no drag strip yet, now it'll have to wait until Spring.

I was reading posts on a Toyota forum, other RAV4 owners discussing their et's, and some were talking about experiencing a delay between stomping on the gas and the initial acceleration which was adversely effecting their 60 ft. times. Mine doesn't do that, it really jumps out of the hole when I stomp on it. How's yours in that regard?

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I like a good old inline 6...like my 5.9 Cummins Turbo Diesel just dynoed at 457 HP/993 TQ ....
damn, those turbo diesels are torque monsters to the max!
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:40 AM   #62 (permalink)
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400 ft/lb tq and it doesn't push you back in your seat?
Nope. It was a fast car, yeah, but it most definitely didn't have the wow effect that forced induction yields.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:13 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Still loving mine, too. But no drag strip yet, now it'll have to wait until Spring.

I was reading posts on a Toyota forum, other RAV4 owners discussing their et's, and some were talking about experiencing a delay between stomping on the gas and the initial acceleration which was adversely effecting their 60 ft. times. Mine doesn't do that, it really jumps out of the hole when I stomp on it. How's yours in that regard?



damn, those turbo diesels are torque monsters to the max!

I'm in the same boat as you. I've had to train myself to feather the throttle to avoid jackrabbit starts. My other car is a jetta GT, but it requires some fairly heavy stomping in comparison just to get it moving.

They must be having some unrelated problems. The speed that I "jump out of the hole" sometimes has me looking at the gas guage, but even in this regard I am constantly pleasantly surprised.

The recent snow (Friday 30 cm or 12 inches, today another dump that size) has shown that the traction and stability on the Rav4 is exceptional. Yup, still loving it. Plus, I had my MP3 player plugged in the other day, and had some 70's Prog (Focus) blasting on the JBL sound system.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:20 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Love the 302 V8 in my Cougar.
Hate the 10-12 mpg in town I get with it.

I miss the beauty of the 4.0 I6 in my old Cherokee, that thing rocked whatever test you put it to.

The little 4 banger in my Tacoma hauls the truck around well enough but gets pretty poor mileage when I run it down the freeway to work. Looking to get something more fun and mileage friendly for the next daily driver. Either a '99 or so Subie with the 2.5 I think? Or like a '99 civic that I would most definitely have to turbo the crap out of. Any suggestions?
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:46 PM   #65 (permalink)
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none.

i have a thing for rotary engines.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:54 AM   #66 (permalink)
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none.

i have a thing for rotary engines.

Care to explain why?


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Old 02-09-2008, 09:47 AM   #67 (permalink)
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all my current rides are v8, ls 400, 67 ford pu,and my daily driver 93 Cobra mustang I'd pimp a turbo 4 tho, got a 41 dodge pu, and if I ever manage to get it together, I'd go for a srt4 engine with upgraded turbo, not much room in those enging bays!
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:48 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Care to explain why?


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my friend kris has a rx-7, and i was just amazed at the space under the hood. it looks as if you could add alot to beef up the performance.

thats all.

and plus, i love the noise it makes..sounds like a street bike on steroids.

go ahead..smash my opinions, im ready
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:20 PM   #69 (permalink)
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my friend kris has a rx-7, and i was just amazed at the space under the hood. it looks as if you could add alot to beef up the performance.

thats all.

and plus, i love the noise it makes..sounds like a street bike on steroids.

go ahead..smash my opinions, im ready

LOL.

I love the noise they make, too. You can hear them easily from the pits, which is nice. Lets me know that somebody is running a rotary, so I've got plenty of time to tune while they clean up the iminent oildown
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:58 AM   #70 (permalink)
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As big as a 7.0L Olds as small to a 1.8 turbo VW. it depends what kind of vehicle you are trying to move. Personally I prefer a smaller engine that likes to rev and returns better mileage.

My most fun vehicle only has 650cc's and it will get me to 60mph in 4 seconds flat and gets 50mpg. Although, it also only has 2 wheels so it's tough in the snow.
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Old 02-11-2008, 05:32 AM   #71 (permalink)
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The rotary is a neat design, but they just don't top regular engines IMHO, thats all....I'd love to have an RX-7 lol



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What kinda bike you got?

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The rotary is a neat design, but they just don't top regular engines IMHO, thats all....I'd love to have an RX-7 lol



ride there,

What kinda bike you got?

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Just a Suzuki Vstrom 650.
Fun inexpensive bike that is kind of a jack of all trades. Great way to get around out of the city.
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