Jinn

I've come to realize that I won't do ANYTHING unless someone makes me do it, including maintaining my own personal health. I love the idea of a boot camp like the military uses: housing and food paid for, hard physical training during the day, every day. However, I don't want to have to join a service to find this structure that I need. Anyone know of similar civilian programs? Or simply a way to structure my life so that 'life' doesn't take me away?

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j8ear

The only thing I can think of is prison? This is probably not as attractive as joining the Marine Corps though.

What's wrong with joining the service?

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Jinn

Long term commitment, the pledge that I will shoot at people (something I'm not inherently comfortable with) and the attitude that pledge inspires. Neither of those are attractive to me, whereas the physical training and structure does.

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Psycho Dad

I thought the promise was more along the lines to protect the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. Not just to go about shooting others.

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Jinn

Not attractive to me either...

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BigBen

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

ROFLMAO!!

I hear exactly what you are saying. You want someone to motivate you, and if it means that sometimes that motivation comes in a negative way, so be it.

I would suggest you go to a gym/fitness centre and tell them what you are looking for. They will do two things:

1) Look at you like you have grown another head.
2) Understand, and find a suitable motivation method that does not involve automatic weapons and 0500 parade dress inspections.

How would you react if someone showed up at your door at 0530 and said "Lets go for a run". You would happily oblidge the first week... then the second week the smile would be gone... then the third week you would stop answering the door.

Or would you? Ask yourself that question. If you are truly motivated by others, then get yourself to a trainer. Believe me, it is easier than signing up.

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maleficent

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Willravel

Go to a gym and ask, then bet your best friend $5000 you can do it. If your friend won't take the bet, then just make them promisethey'll collect $5k from you if you quit. Even if you're well off, 5k is a lot of money. It worked for my best friend and I never had to collect. Motivation: losing 5k is out of the question.

Make sure it is someone who will hold you to the commitment, though. No flakes.

soccerchamp76

That is what personal trainers are for. Set up a personal trainer that meets with you every day for say, 2 hours. He will be your own personal coach telling you what exercise to do, giving you motivation, and not letting you stop.

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CityOfAngels

Yeah but can you hire an affordable trainer that will train you in a way the military would? I'm sure he's not talking about just going for a run every day, but rather honing in on skills he didn't even know he had. That includes, and is not limited to: strength training, agility training, obstacle courses, maintaining/aiming/firing a weapon, hand-to-hand combat techniques, etc. I can understand why he would want this training without the obligation, too. It would be great to have a great physique, be strong, fast, and know how to defend yourself without having to work for Bush.

Edit: Might I add that although you can be trained by a gym instructor, dojo master, basketball coach, etc, the military incorporates all of those factors into one system, which makes it more desirable to someone who wants to better their health significantly and is devoted enough.

Pragma

There are plenty of services other than the Corps - for instance, look at the Coast Guard or the Air Force. I can't speak for the AF, but I know that Coast Guard boot camp has a single day of weapons training - the morning is classroom instruction and the afternoon is on the range - and that's all there is to it. Within the service, I can't think of a single instance off the top of my head where an average serviceman would carry a firearm while ashore - and afloat, boardings would be the only time.

The long term commitment though, you'd have to be in the service for a minimum of four years. One thing I'd say is try to join a martial arts school (though they can be fairly expensive - 100-200 dollars a month, sometimes more) or a gym, though you still have the motivation problem of being able to back out if you want to.

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jorgelito

Or try the National Guard or Reserves. You get training but still get to have your "normal life". I think. Better double-check that.

Psycho Dad

There are many a guardsman and reservist deployed right now that would argue with you on that.

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shakran

no kidding. I do remember seeing a fitness program that was run like a boot camp. I wanna say Dateline or 20/20 ran a story on it. I'll snoop around and see if I can dig that up for you JinnKai

jorgelito

On which part? The training or the other thing...?

shakran

here's one:

http://www.platoonfitness.com/