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Astrocloud · 06-08-2005, 03:07 PM

While searching for generic women's sexuality links I came across one that reminded me of this thread: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=88126

The problem there was that people have a tendency to prejudge single men as being pediphiles. This link: http://www.bk-girls.org/

Describe themselves thusly:

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Hello and welcome to "Butterfly Kisses". This web site is about and for women who are attracted to pre-teen and adolescent girls. Our primary goal is to give women and girls a tool for expressing their feelings and their love about this controversial topic, and to get people to open their minds to ideas about romantic and erotic attraction between women and girls that our society in the past has not been able to discuss openly and rationally. We also want to provide a place where women and girls can express themselves and can learn about their love in an atmosphere where they are encouraged to feel good about themselves and their sexuality.

Obviously, the information presented here is of an open and frank sexual nature and there is no "tap dancing" around sensitive topics. Hopefully, this will actually be a comfort to everyone because it will present "touchy" subject of female childlove to people to think about, without having to be influenced by sex-oppressed media, religion and governments. The topics discussed, articles/essays posted and the stories/poetry written on this site are different from what society's expectations of women and girls are, and as such this site strives to liberate women and girls from the oppression imposed on their sexuality.

Within the pages of Butterfly Kisses you will find sexual issues and topics of female, and particularly lesbian pedophilia, and some of them will probably make some people uncomfortable. Some people will be pleased and some will be angry. But ALL should make you THINK. Our society needs to learn how to discuss highly controversial subjects without the "knee-jerk" reaction so prevalent today. Many of these topics, if we will just stop over-reacting to them and calmly, rationally think about them, may turn out to be less controversial than we thought. We might even see a side to the issue that we had never considered before, which helps us to better understand the controversy. It is only when we understand the various sides to an issue and are ready to discuss it calmly and rationally, that we can begin to effectively deal with it.

This web site is divided in several different sections to make it easier for everyone to navigate through its pages. In "Speaking Out" you can read about real life stories and about female desires and love for little girls. You can also do your own research into woman/girl love by exploring our "Media Guide" archives or "Library" where you can find many examples of women's attraction to little girls, either written in books, painted on canvas or acted out in the movies.

I hope you will enjoy this web site!

Love,
Supergirl

IFgLC Objective
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The International Female Girllovers Collective (IFgLC) was formed in 2001. It was inspired by the struggle of many women and girls through the years to have their love recognized and accepted by society, governments, religions and the law.

IFgLC's goal is to end the extreme oppression of women and girls in mutually consensual relationships by:

building understanding and support for such relationships
educating the general public on the benevolent nature of woman/girl love
cooperating with lesbian, gay, feminist, and other liberation movements
supporting the liberation of persons of all ages from sexual prejudice and oppression
Our membership is open to everyone sympathetic to woman/girl love and personal freedom.

IFgLC calls for the empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual. We support greater economic, political and social opportunities for young people and denounce the rampant ageism that segregates and isolates them in fear and mistrust. We believe sexual feelings are a positive life force. We support the rights of youth as well as adults to choose the partners with whom they wish to share and enjoy their bodies.

We condemn sexual abuse and all forms of coercion. Freely-chosen relationships differ from unwanted sex. Present laws, which focus only on the age of the participants, ignore the quality of their relationships. We know that differences in age do not preclude mutual, loving interaction between persons. IFgLC is strongly opposed to age-of-consent laws and all other restrictions which deny women and girls the full enjoyment of their bodies and control over their own lives.

IFgLC does not provide encouragement, referrals or assistance for people seeking sexual contacts. IFgLC does not engage in any activities that violate the law, nor do we advocate that anyone else should do so.

We call for fundamental reform of the laws regarding relations between youths and adults. Today, many thousands of women and girls are unjustly ground into the disfunctional criminal justice system. Blindly, this system condemns consensual, loving relationships between younger and older people.

IFgLC is a political, civil rights, and educational organization. We provide factual information and help educate society about the positive and beneficial nature of woman/girl love.

So it is some international organization similar to Nambla for and about women. (This fits right in with some of the statistics quoted in the other thread).

Seeker · 06-10-2005, 06:19 AM

Errrr, speachless...

Astrocloud, are there any stats or figures as to how prevelant this is throughout society? How many females are prone to this behaviour, thought or belief? I seem to remember figures were hard to come by for some reason...

In any case, I can't see the rationale for this type of promotion/awareness.

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We provide factual information and help educate society about the positive and beneficial nature of woman/girl love.

eh? I mean it wouldn't be encouraged if males were trying to promote this sort of thought would it!? I can't see how females can encourage it.. really!

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IFgLC is strongly opposed to age-of-consent laws and all other restrictions which deny women and girls the full enjoyment of their bodies and control over their own lives.

(bolding mine to emphasize)
Again... eh?? This is obviously pushing it.. surely! The age of consent is to protect minors that can be manipulated easily by a clever adult mind.

I don't care how femanine and caring they come across as. This to me is questionable no matter what the intent.

Glory's Sun · 06-10-2005, 06:34 AM

I saw a stat once (can't remember where now) that women were actually more likely to commit these acts. More woman than men offend; but most of the time it isn't reported b/c the kid (usually of pre-teen age) sees it as a badge of honor among friends. It's a double standard in most cases. I don't think people really thought about women doing these things until the case involving Debra Lefavre (sp?) took place.

Sage · 06-10-2005, 11:05 AM

The whole reason people aren't "independent" until they're 18 is because they need someone to guide them (although there are parents who really don't care about that). I'm all in favor of consent laws, because when you're fifteen and horny you really aren't in the right mindset to realize when someone is taking advantage of you. Now, I really like it when people can make their own decisions about stuff (I am a libertarian after all) BUT sometimes there needs to be restrictions in place to protect people who don't know they need to be protected. If IFgLC says it's ok for a twenty year old and a seventeen year old to be dating, are they then going on to say that it's ok for a fourty year old and an eight year old? I mean, how young is too young to be learning about your sexuality? Who's going to put a limit on it? There are some people out there who like the idea of being sexual with two year olds- is IFgLC going to say that's not ok? I really dislike orginizations that want to wipe out all restrictions in one fell swoop- laws are there for a reason.

Astrocloud · 06-10-2005, 02:59 PM

I think on the other thread it said that about 1/4 of all molestation victims reported being molested by a woman. One of my friends was molested by her older female teenage babysitter when she was 10.

I have my own story (about being molested by a female authority figure) to tell but that's another thread entirely.

I think that people really underestimate this in our society.

martinguerre · 06-10-2005, 09:18 PM

i guess the valid point they make is that children are sexual beings long before we give them credit for being so.

but i guess i'm not willing to trust these folks to altruistically put the young person first, and not exploit that sexuality.

Seeker · 06-10-2005, 09:18 PM

It sadens me Astrocloud, but I agree with you. I think it is underestimated. Heh.. males or females it is wrong! How's that for equality?

I think this should be advocated/promoted as much as the 'males' and abuse we currently see or hear about.

06-10-2005, 11:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sage hoarding all the big girl panties since 2005 Location: North side	The whole reason people aren't "independent" until they're 18 is because they need someone to guide them (although there are parents who really don't care about that). I'm all in favor of consent laws, because when you're fifteen and horny you really aren't in the right mindset to realize when someone is taking advantage of you. Now, I really like it when people can make their own decisions about stuff (I am a libertarian after all) BUT sometimes there needs to be restrictions in place to protect people who don't know they need to be protected. If IFgLC says it's ok for a twenty year old and a seventeen year old to be dating, are they then going on to say that it's ok for a fourty year old and an eight year old? I mean, how young is too young to be learning about your sexuality? Who's going to put a limit on it? There are some people out there who like the idea of being sexual with two year olds- is IFgLC going to say that's not ok? I really dislike orginizations that want to wipe out all restrictions in one fell swoop- laws are there for a reason. __________________ Sage knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's She answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox She quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus In conics she can floor peculiarities parabolous -C'hi

06-10-2005, 02:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	I think on the other thread it said that about 1/4 of all molestation victims reported being molested by a woman. One of my friends was molested by her older female teenage babysitter when she was 10. I have my own story (about being molested by a female authority figure) to tell but that's another thread entirely. I think that people really underestimate this in our society. Last edited by Astrocloud; 06-10-2005 at 03:03 PM..

06-10-2005, 09:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
martinguerre whosoever Location: New England	i guess the valid point they make is that children are sexual beings long before we give them credit for being so. but i guess i'm not willing to trust these folks to altruistically put the young person first, and not exploit that sexuality. __________________ For God so loved creation, that God sent God's only Son that whosoever believed should not perish, but have everlasting life. -John 3:16

06-10-2005, 09:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Seeker Getting Clearer Location: with spirit	It sadens me Astrocloud, but I agree with you. I think it is underestimated. Heh.. males or females it is wrong! How's that for equality? I think this should be advocated/promoted as much as the 'males' and abuse we currently see or hear about. __________________ *To those who wander but who are not lost...* ~ Knowledge is not something you acquire, it is something you open yourself to.

06-10-2005, 06:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	I saw a stat once (can't remember where now) that women were actually more likely to commit these acts. More woman than men offend; but most of the time it isn't reported b/c the kid (usually of pre-teen age) sees it as a badge of honor among friends. It's a double standard in most cases. I don't think people really thought about women doing these things until the case involving Debra Lefavre (sp?) took place.