1337 speak?
 

OK, call me old but I have no idea what 1337 speak is. Could someone explain it for me?

This is my first time posting a new thread so please forgive me if I put it in the wrong place or if this has already been explained somewhere. I tried to do a search but came up with nothing. :confused:

It's another way to spell leet; follow that link for more than you ever wanted to know.

or ever needed to know. Leet speak should be banned from the internet.

1337 is teh r0xx0r!!!!!11111!!!1

*end sarcasm*

It's amazing that when I search for "1337 speak" I got almost a million hits on Google, and yet you got nothing.

Damned Intarweb :|

Brain...bleeding....must...call....for....|-|31|^

I think its hilarious when people bash leet speak. Sure, a lot of it is ridiculous and overdone, but pretty much all the commonly used, even by older people who laugh at leet, slang comes from it.

How many of the people who make fun of it use smilies, or say lol or rofl. :p

I'll disagree with that statement. The examples that you used are all shorthands. Smilies are there to add emotional inflection.

There is nothing shorthand about 'leet; in fact, many of the 1337 words require the typing of more characters than the original words. 1337 speak is about making your words more difficult to read unless you are "part of the elite group"; but, you then realize that that group is made up of 13 year old boys, and so you stop typing like a monkey with a sugar rush.

hmmm according to the definition (see link in redlemon's first post) lol & rofl are not leet or whatever, they are AOL speak, or as Redlemon pointed out, contractions or emoticons

I find the leet typing to be not only migraine inducing, but have to agree with the cited definition, somewhat immature. Not to mention the effort required to type / utilize the caps key ... uh uh, I wont read or type it.

I do it sometimes just for the fun of it. I don't see the point of using it in papers.

if we banned it, how would wannabe hackers feel cool?

This is what I use for 1337 speak.

http://www.twintop-tahoe.com/windows/l33t.php <a 1337 speak translator>

ph34r m3

I really use it as sarcastic exaggeration. If I see something that is prone to release tons of excitement for some people, I will write in a chat: "ZOMG, that and that happened".

Or sometimes, when a friend of mine intends to say something funny, which is not that funny, I will say (yes, SAY, not TYPE) "lol". In other cases, if someone is too loud, I will say STFU ("st'foo").

Yes, it is geeky. No, I don't care.

I have a customer who's entire tech staff is all under the age of 30-- every single administrator password is some form of LEET... my brain just doesn't compute a number acting as letter...

I am a smilie addict -- but I have to use them -- otherwise people would think I am more of a bitch than they do... When sarcasm is your thing, or you are a little less flowery in your writing, emoticons help to convey what your intent is... without losing personality in what is being said. Smilies are not leet...

You must train your brain with JeffK :D in order to appreciate the exaggeration of emotions related with bad spelling, all caps and !!!111.

http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk

that's just sad... I'm sure he got thru at least the 3rd grade... but... damn...

/me goes off to take her geritol because she's really really old.

The site is a spoof. The way he writes is intentional ;) Still, a true paradigm of the message 1337-speek conveys in a sarcastic context.

I think as long as these "1337" speakers can also write formally when needed, I see no problem with it and have no desire to condem them. I think it is actually interesting as a social statement and a nice representation of internet culture.

It reminds me of pig latin or whatever little girls used to speak so others wouldn't understand them. Just child sillyness, something to be laughed at, not hated.

This is funny, not quite the same thing but similar.
http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files...ranslator.html

Actually, passwords are probably the only thing that LEET is good for. The admins always tell you to use a mix of numbers and letters, or perhaps even punctuation. If you can remember it as a word, but remember that you used a 7 instead of a V in the word, there you go.

wasnt this created back into the early days of IRC and then stolen by scriptkiddes and then any punk on CS?

Common practice around here. Corporate regulations require numbers, letters, and symbols in passwords. LEET is actually good for something.

Think that's bad? My password is such a mess that I can only touch-type it. It's nice and secure because I couldn't tell you what it is without a keyboard.

I always use leet speak when I'm being sarcastic. It's just too fun not to mock.

J00 R teh n00bah!!!1!111!!eleven

I like Microsofts' explanation of l33t better: it looks so official coming from their Knowledgebase :) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...n/kidtalk.mspx


ph34r mah m4d sk1llz...

I must admit I say "pwned" when playing Counter-Strike: Source .. *sigh*..

"meh" is leet speak? I use it all the time, but never use any other form, except in jest. I don't agree that it's leet speak...

Yeah 99% of 1337 speak is retarded, but it's pretty useful in confusing any type of digital snooping device that searches out key words and phrases. It's funny to me that 13 year olds can create such a simple encryption capable of confusing the best programs of the CIA, NSA, and FBI.

I agree, no way "meh" is leet speak. There's a difference between slang/new words and leet speak. Leet speak is a silly form of encryption.

I took to using 'meh' from actually saying it out loud in conversations when i'd get cornered by the mrs, so i used it online when i got cornered by the mrs :lol:

I wouldn't go so far as saying leet is a form of encryption, your giving too much credit to the 12-15 age bracket. I'd class it more as a 'phase'. Some people continue to use aspects of that phase in certain places (e.g. passwords because it's useful), but find me someone non-teenage who uses leet regularly AND does live in their computer.

I also use 1337 for passwords. They're just more secure that way.

lolz interesting post. haha. who doesnt kknow 1337 sp34k! come on!!11

PHr3Ku3N7ly H4s|{3d K0o£St330nZ!

^^ That's taking l33t too far for me, and I'm a semi-proponent of this "street language for the information superhighway." It took me a couple minutes to figure out that this says "Frequently Asked Questions."

HOWEVER, I challenge anyone who has played an online roleplaying game to say that they've never said "woot" -- this, in fact, is also a derivation of l33t -- w00t!!!

Wikipedia has a nice article on L33t too, written from a geeks standpoint..

Actually, I think that woot was first used in everquest as a combination of "woohoo" and "loot". I think that the 0's and the other nonsense were added in when "leet speak" became popular.

*snickers* I had a teacher who actually atated in the sylabus not to use internet language or emoticons in the paper,and when I asked, he said that he had, in fact, gotten papers with both. That's just...wrong.

I use it for passwords, as stated, cause it's more secure. Except that what I use would be pretty easy to guess...

I heard woot in a RP chat room (shut up...stop laughing), and it was sort of a sexual innuendo. Like "Woot! I got some!" But that's not what it is in games. I use woot (or, I admit, w00t) when I'm sarcastically congratulating someone. Or congrats on something that's not really that exciting (I guess that's sarcastic...).
Anyone use congo rats? God, that drove me insane in EQ...
Then there's "ding!" when you get a level up...I've used that...

I'd heard that as well, when I played EQ1 (1999-2004) -- but w00t was in fact in IRC channels and BBS' long before 1999 (EQ's release). I feel like we're making history here! :) I'll be telling my kids some day about the strange way we talked with that "Internet thing" first came out.. while they talk to their friends over their bluetooth Internet2 watch with holographic display...

Thanks for all the info. I still can't read leet but atleast I know I'm not nuts when I see the combinations. This is the first time I've been into any forum or boards so I am totally knew to anything that isn't in the dictionary! I had to ask the neighbor computer geek what lmfao ment. I don't think I will ever be able to understand leet. But thats OK with me.

Also makes it easier for them to slip junk mail past my filters... for which I am not pleased.

Of course, if I see 1337 in my inbox, I know it's garbage and don't bother looking before I toss.

and the WoW "language" thingy to prevent you from talking to the opposite side...
I almost fell out of my chair laughing when the patch notes said that symbols will no longer be transmitted to the other team.

From an online T-shirt shop recently featured on CNN:

http://members.cox.net/wd40/ifuc4n.gif

Wow...I never knew what it meant before but I just feel like a got a bit dumber. I guess it can be useful for passwords, but I think I would slap any of my friends if they talked to me in leet.

You know, some of this stuff is pretty stupid.. But at the same time it's interesting to see how a language evolves in a community.

And I like saying "woot" sometimes :p