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Old 05-20-2005, 08:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1337 speak?

OK, call me old but I have no idea what 1337 speak is. Could someone explain it for me?

This is my first time posting a new thread so please forgive me if I put it in the wrong place or if this has already been explained somewhere. I tried to do a search but came up with nothing.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's another way to spell leet; follow that link for more than you ever wanted to know.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It's amazing that when I search for "1337 speak" I got almost a million hits on Google, and yet you got nothing.

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Old 05-20-2005, 08:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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* pr0n, pornography
* w4r3z, "warez" or illegally copied software available for download (with copy protection, if any, disabled)
* h4x (also "h4xx"), "Hacks" in English, these are usually programs for games that allows a user to cheat and gain an unfair advantage.
* meh, (maybe with 3), shows slight agreement or dissatisfaction, occasionally means "me"
* y0, greeting, used as an alternative for Hi
* sploitz, (short for exploits) a piece of computer software that takes advantage of a bug, glitch or vulnerability --> exploit (computer science)
* pwn, to "own" or otherwise completely dominate. (See main article for alternative spellings of pwn.)
* p00n, used as an alternative to pwn
* r00t, administrator privileges, from the "root" account on Unix-like systems
* m4d sk1llz, talent of one sort or another; "m4d" itself is often used for emphasis (such as in "m4d fragging")
* n00b, some consider it to be synonymous with newbie (n00b is short for n00bie which is newbie leetified), while others make the distinction that "n00b" is an insult applicable to anyone acting stupid and "newbie" is an affectionate term for new users. Is used on message boards and forums to reference new users who speak in IM and/or leet slang itself. (Also, newb.)
* w00t or the emoticon \o/, a common interjection, analogous to "woohoo!" Also used for "what". Also w00tness.
* oh noes or oh n03s, common phrase for "Oh no!" This originated from the site ohnoes.org (http://www.ohnoes.org)
* hax0r, h4x0r, "hacker", where the symbols are used to draw rough approximations to letters: >< is an "x", |2 is an "r". It is possible that the substitution of "ck" with "x" is a linguistic nod to the Greek letter chi (see TeX for the original example of this). Also, Haxor is sometimes found as "Haxxor", as symbols for "x" are often doubled.
* rox0rz, "rocks"
* sux0rz, "sucks", as in "s|_|x0rz my n|_|tz0rz" when one feels pity for someone else, or when angry. Also spelled "sux"
* suxxor, some other person considered unfriendly; also used in friendly name calling among gamers.
* ub3r, from the German word über, meaning "super", as in "Ub3r-l337" or "ub3r-g33kx0rz". Some people say "I am uber cool" or "! @m UB3R c00l!
* b4k4, from the Japanese word "baka", meaning "idiots" or "stupidity". Example: "U b4k4 n00b.
* ph33r or ph34r, a respelling "leetage" of fear. Most commonly used as "ph33r m3h!"
* lol or lolz0rs, meaning laugh out loud
There are many incarnations of leet, and it is continuously evolving as more people add to it, and thus, a single word can be "spelled" in many different ways. For example, "phonetic" could be |>|-|0n371><, p|-|0|\|3+1|<, |>h0|\|371<, ph0n371k.

Phonetic spellings

* "d00d" for "dude"
* "joo" for "you", also written as "j00" or "_|00"
* "ph" for "f", as in "phear" for "fear" (as in "ph34r my l33t skillz") and vice versa, such as spelling "phonetic" as "f0|\|371("

Note that in true leet, the following are considered improper. They are seen more as IM lingo.

* "kewl" or kwel or ku or ql for cool
* "r" for are, u for you, c for see (giving the common "see you")
* "2" for to or too, 4 for for (but note "4" can also represent an "A")
* "8" for -ate, as l8r for later
* "ne" for any
* "u 1 2" for "you want to".

Frequent misspellings

Frequently, common typing errors are also absorbed into leet, such as:

* "aer" for "are"
* "yuo" for "you"
* "teh" or "t3h" for "the" (also sometimes used as an intensifier: "He is teh lame"). Another form can also be "deh" (As in "| em deh ro><00rz!!11!").
* "smrt" for "smart" (This may also be an intentional reference to an episode of The Simpsons in which Homer misspells smart in song: "I am so smart! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! I mean S-M-A-R-T!")
* "waht" for "what"
* "gaem" for "game"
* "leik" or "liek" for "like", usually sarcastic—generally when making fun of a skript kiddie or AOL-er
* German "ist" for "is", often used with word "death". e.g. "mp3 ist death."
* "pwn" or "pwned" for "own" or "owned". This originates from the 'P' key on a QWERTY typeface being immediately beside the 'o' key and pressed by the less-than-nimble pinky (little) finger.
* "flase" as opposed to the word "false"
* "Evar" as opposed to the word "Ever". This is usually used in such phrases as "BEST. GAME. EVAR."

Some of these examples, in particular 'teh' and 'pwn' are frequently used on purpose, to lighten up a mood, strengthen a point, or annoy the receiving parties.

Phrases

* "WHeRE @Re J00" or "Wh3re aer j00?" for "where are you"
* "wH4+'S uR nAME" for "what is your name"
* "/\/\?|<£'§ 1££+ §|<?11§ ž|/\||\| _|¤¤", an example of especially obfuscated leet (seebfuscated code), this translates to "Mike's leet skills own you".
* "g0s\/" for gosu, meaning "pro", from Korean players of Starcraft
* "skilled r0x0rt looking for a team pgm only high lvl, pv me" for "I'm a qualified player looking forward to be hired by a progaming clan in electronic sports, contact me now".
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I think its hilarious when people bash leet speak. Sure, a lot of it is ridiculous and overdone, but pretty much all the commonly used, even by older people who laugh at leet, slang comes from it.

How many of the people who make fun of it use smilies, or say lol or rofl.
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:17 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I think its hilarious when people bash leet speak. Sure, a lot of it is ridiculous and overdone, but pretty much all the commonly used, even by older people who laugh at leet, slang comes from it.

How many of the people who make fun of it use smilies, or say lol or rofl.
I'll disagree with that statement. The examples that you used are all shorthands. Smilies are there to add emotional inflection.

There is nothing shorthand about 'leet; in fact, many of the 1337 words require the typing of more characters than the original words. 1337 speak is about making your words more difficult to read unless you are "part of the elite group"; but, you then realize that that group is made up of 13 year old boys, and so you stop typing like a monkey with a sugar rush.
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I think its hilarious when people bash leet speak. Sure, a lot of it is ridiculous and overdone, but pretty much all the commonly used, even by older people who laugh at leet, slang comes from it.

How many of the people who make fun of it use smilies, or say lol or rofl.

hmmm according to the definition (see link in redlemon's first post) lol & rofl are not leet or whatever, they are AOL speak, or as Redlemon pointed out, contractions or emoticons

I find the leet typing to be not only migraine inducing, but have to agree with the cited definition, somewhat immature. Not to mention the effort required to type / utilize the caps key ... uh uh, I wont read or type it.
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:33 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I do it sometimes just for the fun of it. I don't see the point of using it in papers.

if we banned it, how would wannabe hackers feel cool?
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This is what I use for 1337 speak.

http://www.twintop-tahoe.com/windows/l33t.php <a 1337 speak translator>

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Old 05-21-2005, 07:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I really use it as sarcastic exaggeration. If I see something that is prone to release tons of excitement for some people, I will write in a chat: "ZOMG, that and that happened".

Or sometimes, when a friend of mine intends to say something funny, which is not that funny, I will say (yes, SAY, not TYPE) "lol". In other cases, if someone is too loud, I will say STFU ("st'foo").

Yes, it is geeky. No, I don't care.
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I have a customer who's entire tech staff is all under the age of 30-- every single administrator password is some form of LEET... my brain just doesn't compute a number acting as letter...

I am a smilie addict -- but I have to use them -- otherwise people would think I am more of a bitch than they do... When sarcasm is your thing, or you are a little less flowery in your writing, emoticons help to convey what your intent is... without losing personality in what is being said. Smilies are not leet...
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have a customer who's entire tech staff is all under the age of 30-- every single administrator password is some form of LEET... my brain just doesn't compute a number acting as letter...
You must train your brain with JeffK in order to appreciate the exaggeration of emotions related with bad spelling, all caps and !!!111.

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Old 05-21-2005, 07:45 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You must train your brain with JeffK in order to appreciate the exaggeration of emotions related with bad spelling, all caps and !!!111.

http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk
that's just sad... I'm sure he got thru at least the 3rd grade... but... damn...

/me goes off to take her geritol because she's really really old.
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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that's just sad... I'm sure he got thru at least the 3rd grade... but... damn...
The site is a spoof. The way he writes is intentional Still, a true paradigm of the message 1337-speek conveys in a sarcastic context.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I think as long as these "1337" speakers can also write formally when needed, I see no problem with it and have no desire to condem them. I think it is actually interesting as a social statement and a nice representation of internet culture.
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It reminds me of pig latin or whatever little girls used to speak so others wouldn't understand them. Just child sillyness, something to be laughed at, not hated.

This is funny, not quite the same thing but similar.
http://ssshotaru.homestead.com/files...ranslator.html
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Old 05-23-2005, 07:59 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I have a customer who's entire tech staff is all under the age of 30-- every single administrator password is some form of LEET... my brain just doesn't compute a number acting as letter...
Actually, passwords are probably the only thing that LEET is good for. The admins always tell you to use a mix of numbers and letters, or perhaps even punctuation. If you can remember it as a word, but remember that you used a 7 instead of a V in the word, there you go.
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
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wasnt this created back into the early days of IRC and then stolen by scriptkiddes and then any punk on CS?
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I have a customer who's entire tech staff is all under the age of 30-- every single administrator password is some form of LEET... my brain just doesn't compute a number acting as letter...
Common practice around here. Corporate regulations require numbers, letters, and symbols in passwords. LEET is actually good for something.
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Old 05-23-2005, 06:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have a customer who's entire tech staff is all under the age of 30-- every single administrator password is some form of LEET... my brain just doesn't compute a number acting as letter...
Think that's bad? My password is such a mess that I can only touch-type it. It's nice and secure because I couldn't tell you what it is without a keyboard.
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:34 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I always use leet speak when I'm being sarcastic. It's just too fun not to mock.

J00 R teh n00bah!!!1!111!!eleven
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:21 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I like Microsofts' explanation of l33t better: it looks so official coming from their Knowledgebase http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...n/kidtalk.mspx


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Old 05-24-2005, 08:48 AM   #25 (permalink)
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"meh" is leet speak? I use it all the time, but never use any other form, except in jest. I don't agree that it's leet speak...
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:16 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah 99% of 1337 speak is retarded, but it's pretty useful in confusing any type of digital snooping device that searches out key words and phrases. It's funny to me that 13 year olds can create such a simple encryption capable of confusing the best programs of the CIA, NSA, and FBI.
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"meh" is leet speak? I use it all the time, but never use any other form, except in jest. I don't agree that it's leet speak...

I agree, no way "meh" is leet speak. There's a difference between slang/new words and leet speak. Leet speak is a silly form of encryption.
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I agree, no way "meh" is leet speak. There's a difference between slang/new words and leet speak. Leet speak is a silly form of encryption.
I took to using 'meh' from actually saying it out loud in conversations when i'd get cornered by the mrs, so i used it online when i got cornered by the mrs

I wouldn't go so far as saying leet is a form of encryption, your giving too much credit to the 12-15 age bracket. I'd class it more as a 'phase'. Some people continue to use aspects of that phase in certain places (e.g. passwords because it's useful), but find me someone non-teenage who uses leet regularly AND does live in their computer.
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Old 05-25-2005, 05:57 AM   #30 (permalink)
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lolz interesting post. haha. who doesnt kknow 1337 sp34k! come on!!11
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Old 05-25-2005, 07:24 AM   #31 (permalink)
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PHr3Ku3N7ly H4s|{3d K0o£St330nZ!

^^ That's taking l33t too far for me, and I'm a semi-proponent of this "street language for the information superhighway." It took me a couple minutes to figure out that this says "Frequently Asked Questions."

HOWEVER, I challenge anyone who has played an online roleplaying game to say that they've never said "woot" -- this, in fact, is also a derivation of l33t -- w00t!!!

Wikipedia has a nice article on L33t too, written from a geeks standpoint..
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HOWEVER, I challenge anyone who has played an online roleplaying game to say that they've never said "woot" -- this, in fact, is also a derivation of l33t -- w00t!!!
Actually, I think that woot was first used in everquest as a combination of "woohoo" and "loot". I think that the 0's and the other nonsense were added in when "leet speak" became popular.
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I do it sometimes just for the fun of it. I don't see the point of using it in papers.
*snickers* I had a teacher who actually atated in the sylabus not to use internet language or emoticons in the paper,and when I asked, he said that he had, in fact, gotten papers with both. That's just...wrong.

I use it for passwords, as stated, cause it's more secure. Except that what I use would be pretty easy to guess...

I heard woot in a RP chat room (shut up...stop laughing), and it was sort of a sexual innuendo. Like "Woot! I got some!" But that's not what it is in games. I use woot (or, I admit, w00t) when I'm sarcastically congratulating someone. Or congrats on something that's not really that exciting (I guess that's sarcastic...).
Anyone use congo rats? God, that drove me insane in EQ...
Then there's "ding!" when you get a level up...I've used that...
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Actually, I think that woot was first used in everquest as a combination of "woohoo" and "loot". I think that the 0's and the other nonsense were added in when "leet speak" became popular.
I'd heard that as well, when I played EQ1 (1999-2004) -- but w00t was in fact in IRC channels and BBS' long before 1999 (EQ's release). I feel like we're making history here! I'll be telling my kids some day about the strange way we talked with that "Internet thing" first came out.. while they talk to their friends over their bluetooth Internet2 watch with holographic display...
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Thanks for all the info. I still can't read leet but atleast I know I'm not nuts when I see the combinations. This is the first time I've been into any forum or boards so I am totally knew to anything that isn't in the dictionary! I had to ask the neighbor computer geek what lmfao ment. I don't think I will ever be able to understand leet. But thats OK with me.
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Yeah 99% of 1337 speak is retarded, but it's pretty useful in confusing any type of digital snooping device that searches out key words and phrases. It's funny to me that 13 year olds can create such a simple encryption capable of confusing the best programs of the CIA, NSA, and FBI.
Also makes it easier for them to slip junk mail past my filters... for which I am not pleased.

Of course, if I see 1337 in my inbox, I know it's garbage and don't bother looking before I toss.
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Yeah 99% of 1337 speak is retarded, but it's pretty useful in confusing any type of digital snooping device that searches out key words and phrases. It's funny to me that 13 year olds can create such a simple encryption capable of confusing the best programs of the CIA, NSA, and FBI.
and the WoW "language" thingy to prevent you from talking to the opposite side...
I almost fell out of my chair laughing when the patch notes said that symbols will no longer be transmitted to the other team.
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Old 06-04-2005, 11:56 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Wow...I never knew what it meant before but I just feel like a got a bit dumber. I guess it can be useful for passwords, but I think I would slap any of my friends if they talked to me in leet.
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Old 06-05-2005, 07:13 PM   #40 (permalink)
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You know, some of this stuff is pretty stupid.. But at the same time it's interesting to see how a language evolves in a community.

And I like saying "woot" sometimes
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