So have you tried Mescaline? - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Captain Nemo · 01-21-2005, 11:43 AM

Back to our originally scheduled program.

The side effects of hallucinogens are definitely there. I did LSD a handful of times back in college, and it would produce pretty severe dyslexia in me for a considerable period of time afterwards. Wasn't worth the price...

The_wall · 01-21-2005, 01:24 PM

I've had a lot of fun on some hallucinogens. Never had any negative effects either, I do feel like I got something out of them though.

One thing I don't get is why people say flashbacks are a bad thing, unless its a flashback from a bad trip, then I could understand. I wish I would get flashbacks from my trips.

Stompy · 01-21-2005, 02:03 PM

People use substances to escape all the time. Escape, relax, etc.. whatever.

I've been interested in taking a nice escape from reality with a bit of peyote or mescaline, but I'm too afraid of having a bad experience... I don't want to end up ripping my skin off, or chasing after my friend because I think he's a demon and end up eating his lung or something.

Hell, I can hardly tolerate weed without getting to paranoid! I've read a lot from Huxley and other authors who enjoy the use of psychadelics, and it definitely seems like a mind-opening experience!

If there was a way to insure a nice, safe trip, count me in!

Grasshopper Green · 01-21-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto

Good job guys.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=81512

Good job.

Mr Mephisto

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I know the one post that I contributed to this thread was out of genuine concern and not anything else. These types of drugs can seriously fuck you up and I wanted him to take that into consideration before taking something for a little fun/escape/whatever.

Mephisto2 · 01-21-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Halx

No one member will use the board's resources for nothing other than to garner sympathy and attention. You're all allowed to be individuals here, but when 90% of the shit you post is "look at me and how pathetic I am, whine whine whine" there is nothing that we can do to help you. It aint gonna work. You have to seek professional attention and learn to leave that stuff OFF the internet. It was his decision to leave. We never told him to leave. However, now, it's the best decision for both parties. We wish him the best and hope he gets well.

I don't know.

I like(d) StrangeFamous and didn't think 90% of what he posted was looking for sympathy or attention.

Mr Mephisto

flamingdog · 01-22-2005, 09:53 AM

I also think the linking of this thread to his thread about the state of his living area was uncalled for, and constituted a personal attack. I've been watching this situation develop all week, and it's really not been very pretty at all.

The_wall · 01-22-2005, 01:23 PM

I agree I feel like everyone overreacted to SF incident, but it is halx's board and he calls the shots so....

killeena · 01-24-2005, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stompy

People use substances to escape all the time. Escape, relax, etc.. whatever.

I've been interested in taking a nice escape from reality with a bit of peyote or mescaline, but I'm too afraid of having a bad experience... I don't want to end up ripping my skin off, or chasing after my friend because I think he's a demon and end up eating his lung or something.

Hell, I can hardly tolerate weed without getting to paranoid! I've read a lot from Huxley and other authors who enjoy the use of psychadelics, and it definitely seems like a mind-opening experience!

If there was a way to insure a nice, safe trip, count me in!

I have heard that mushrooms are pretty safe, but I have still seen people freak out on them. With psychadelics, I think you have to be in the right frame of mind to really enjoy them. You have to be a pretty positive and easygoing person to not freak out.

But I am really not an expert. I would probably freak the fuck out if I did anything like that. I am just basing all this on what I have seen with my friends.

Glory's Sun · 01-24-2005, 07:13 AM

Can we get back on topic or should this thread get closed as well? This thread isn't about garnering support for a member or for ridiculing a member. IMHO, if you come into this thread to post about a previous thread then you should just hit the back button.

That being said, I've never tried mescaline. It's on the agenda although I doubt I'll ever get around to doing it. I'm kinda out of that whole phase now. There are just more important things for me, i.e. alcohol

Suave · 01-24-2005, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sixate

Anyonw who uses drugs and alcohol to escape from the world is sick, and needs to seek professional help. That's the plain and simple truth. The rest of you that don't agree with this are just failing to face the facts.

It is highly irritating when I come across persons who attempt to pass their opinion off as facts, or say that people who believe differently are obviously wrong. Especially on a topic as subjective as this.

pinkie · 01-24-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingdog

I also think the linking of this thread to his thread about the state of his living area was uncalled for, and constituted a personal attack. I've been watching this situation develop all week, and it's really not been very pretty at all.

Well sometimes just what we need (compassion and mutual respect) is not what we get...

kutulu · 01-24-2005, 10:42 AM

There is no such thing as 'microdot' mescaline. You were sold acid.

I've never done mescaline, but I have read a bit about it. There are many people out there who "think" they have done mescaline when in reality, they were just given acid by someone calling it mescaline.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mesc...ne_info2.shtml

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Rumors persist about tiny mescaline containing tablets. Some dealers will actually sell microdots as “mescaline” and it’s not difficult to find people who will argue that the effects of these tablets are “definitely different than LSD”. While many people know that it’s just about impossible that a microdot or tiny pill would contain mescaline, it can be difficult to convince someone who just spent money to purchase the rare substance that they most likely bought LSD instead. In cases like this, references can be useful, and a picture is worth a thousand words.

A threshold dose of mescaline (the dose at which the smallest amount of recognizable effects can be felt) is somewhere around 100 mg. A normal active dose for most people falls in the 200-400 mg range.1

An average size MDMA tablet weighs around 250 mg, including all binders and fillers. In general, less than half of this weight is actually MDMA. Likewise there are pressed 2C-B tablets which weigh 45 mg and contain 5 mg of 2C-B, about 1/9 of their weight. A standard microdot weighs only 7.5 mg. Assuming that only 1/3 of this material is binders, that means a maximum of 5 mg of active material in the micro-tablet.

While there are a few psychoactives which are active in the 5 mg range, mescaline is definitely not one of them. It would be difficult to get a threshold dose of mescaline into a tablet even as large as an ecstasy tablet (similar in size to a standard advil or aspirin tablet). A full dose of mescaline (400 mg) barely fits into a fully packed large capsule with no fillers. At 5 mg of mescaline per microdot, it would take between 50 and 75 tablets to equal a single dose.

It can be made into a pill form but it is VERY rare. If a typical dose is about 350 mg, you'd need at least that much binder. Therefore, you're looking at a pill nearly 1000 mg. That is a big pill. Basically, if someone trys to sell you mescaline in a pill form tell them to fuck off because either they don't know what they are selling (very bad idea) or are intentionally trying to rip you off (I'm sure a 'microdot mescaline' pill would sell for at least 3 times what acid would sell for,right?).

The_wall · 01-24-2005, 12:21 PM

Interesting Kutulu, good information for those of us who explore at times.

K-Wise · 01-30-2005, 08:28 PM

Well I'd love to not talk about Strange Famous but I can't agree with whats been said about him. I guess I haven't read all his posts that well. But I mean what he's supposedly doing...I've seen plenty of people on here do the same thing from time to time. Myself included. I don't think theres anything wrong with it. There have been direct personal attacks. Things that NORMALLY will get a thread shut down and have you banned or at least warned. Regardless of what he uses for his release whether it be seriously or just metaphorically we all have our releases...mine is music. Anyways regardless of the intention those were insults and didn't show much thought of tact before saying them. I don't think thats fair to him. Sorry to add to this flame but I had something to say and I said it.

Asta!!

EULA · 02-25-2005, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Schwan

Reading this feels like reading a corporate memo, not a TFP post. The way SF was treated by the leading members of a community that is known throught the internet as tolerant and open minded is simply amusing. What the hell was that?

Tolerant? Open-minded? Ha! I laugh at thee. This place is p.c. and VERY touchey. I think my very first post was altered, because of the "excessive sarcasm." Try TheForum, you can get away with almost anything there.

DJ Happy · 03-06-2005, 02:41 AM

I think Strange Famous has been harshly treated here. There are plenty of people who use this board to get attention ("look at me, look how kinky I am, I am the very essence of sexuality, admire me" being one of the more obvious types), even doing so in the guise of giving advice, and they are permitted to do so.

On occasions Strange Famous has made posts where he genuinely wanted help and advice, in some instances the sort of help and advice that you don't want to speak about to someone in person about, but would rather use the anonymity of the internet and the tolerance of the TFP for. In the "Messy Room" post he wasn't even doing that - he was opening up and letting us get to know him a bit better. Bill O'Rights even commented, "How many here would have the guts to lay themselves bare like that?" and yet some here are using that very openness and honesty against him. This is not what I thought the TFP was about.

There have been people posting here about what are, in my opinion, really twisted topics, but no-one called them "sick." And unless you're a psychiatrist, telling someone that it's a fact that they're sick and need professional help is just not on.

01-21-2005, 01:24 PM	#42 (permalink)
The_wall Psycho Location: Rhode Island biatches!	I've had a lot of fun on some hallucinogens. Never had any negative effects either, I do feel like I got something out of them though. One thing I don't get is why people say flashbacks are a bad thing, unless its a flashback from a bad trip, then I could understand. I wish I would get flashbacks from my trips. __________________ "We do what we like and we like what we do!"~andrew Wk Procrastinate now, don't put off to the last minute.

01-21-2005, 02:03 PM	#43 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	People use substances to escape all the time. Escape, relax, etc.. whatever. I've been interested in taking a nice escape from reality with a bit of peyote or mescaline, but I'm too afraid of having a bad experience... I don't want to end up ripping my skin off, or chasing after my friend because I think he's a demon and end up eating his lung or something. Hell, I can hardly tolerate weed without getting to paranoid! I've read a lot from Huxley and other authors who enjoy the use of psychadelics, and it definitely seems like a mind-opening experience! If there was a way to insure a nice, safe trip, count me in! __________________ I love lamp.

01-22-2005, 01:23 PM	#47 (permalink)
The_wall Psycho Location: Rhode Island biatches!	I agree I feel like everyone overreacted to SF incident, but it is halx's board and he calls the shots so.... __________________ "We do what we like and we like what we do!"~andrew Wk Procrastinate now, don't put off to the last minute.

01-24-2005, 07:13 AM	#49 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	Can we get back on topic or should this thread get closed as well? This thread isn't about garnering support for a member or for ridiculing a member. IMHO, if you come into this thread to post about a previous thread then you should just hit the back button. That being said, I've never tried mescaline. It's on the agenda although I doubt I'll ever get around to doing it. I'm kinda out of that whole phase now. There are just more important things for me, i.e. alcohol Last edited by Glory's Sun; 01-24-2005 at 07:15 AM..

01-24-2005, 12:21 PM	#53 (permalink)
The_wall Psycho Location: Rhode Island biatches!	Interesting Kutulu, good information for those of us who explore at times. __________________ "We do what we like and we like what we do!"~andrew Wk Procrastinate now, don't put off to the last minute.

01-21-2005, 11:43 AM	#41 (permalink)
Captain Nemo Insane Location: In a forest of red tape (but hey, I have scissors)	Back to our originally scheduled program. The side effects of hallucinogens are definitely there. I did LSD a handful of times back in college, and it would produce pretty severe dyslexia in me for a considerable period of time afterwards. Wasn't worth the price...

01-22-2005, 09:53 AM	#46 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	I also think the linking of this thread to his thread about the state of his living area was uncalled for, and constituted a personal attack. I've been watching this situation develop all week, and it's really not been very pretty at all.

01-30-2005, 08:28 PM	#54 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Well I'd love to not talk about Strange Famous but I can't agree with whats been said about him. I guess I haven't read all his posts that well. But I mean what he's supposedly doing...I've seen plenty of people on here do the same thing from time to time. Myself included. I don't think theres anything wrong with it. There have been direct personal attacks. Things that NORMALLY will get a thread shut down and have you banned or at least warned. Regardless of what he uses for his release whether it be seriously or just metaphorically we all have our releases...mine is music. Anyways regardless of the intention those were insults and didn't show much thought of tact before saying them. I don't think thats fair to him. Sorry to add to this flame but I had something to say and I said it. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

03-06-2005, 02:41 AM	#56 (permalink)
DJ Happy Psycho	I think Strange Famous has been harshly treated here. There are plenty of people who use this board to get attention ("look at me, look how kinky I am, I am the very essence of sexuality, admire me" being one of the more obvious types), even doing so in the guise of giving advice, and they are permitted to do so. On occasions Strange Famous has made posts where he genuinely wanted help and advice, in some instances the sort of help and advice that you don't want to speak about to someone in person about, but would rather use the anonymity of the internet and the tolerance of the TFP for. In the "Messy Room" post he wasn't even doing that - he was opening up and letting us get to know him a bit better. Bill O'Rights even commented, "How many here would have the guts to lay themselves bare like that?" and yet some here are using that very openness and honesty against him. This is not what I thought the TFP was about. There have been people posting here about what are, in my opinion, really twisted topics, but no-one called them "sick." And unless you're a psychiatrist, telling someone that it's a fact that they're sick and need professional help is just not on.