hey washington, I just want to know how you said to that girl "alright, thats too bad you're missing out". and what was her reaction to it? Because that can be taken as a really fucked up comment in some senses...
does anyone agree?
just curious...

Hmm..I dont see how it could be interperated like that.

I just meant that she would be missing out on having a fun time.

What do you mean? I dont understand how it could be mean or anything...


She said "I bet" heh... I think I was too fast with her, I didnt build rapport...I just kinda ask for it after we talked for like 1 min. With the other girls, I waited longer before I asked. It seems like it worked.

Well some people can say "well your loss" and can make it sound real snooty and pretentious. Personally if someone said that to me, that I didn't know, that had just asked me out, I would take it the wrong way and be like well I'm glad I said no... But that's just me and with only certain people. It just all depends on how you said it...

If i remember correctly, I kinda of said it as though it were a question or invitation to re-consider..

Like i raised the pitch of the last word.


Anyway...I dont care what shes glad of, she said no and thats all it is.

Im concentrting on the emails that I did get :}

I want to reiterate the desperation point. I don't want to relate girls to dogs (my girlfriend wouldn't be pleased!) but girls can smell fear! A rare few like it, and a sad few take advantage of it, but the vast and most pleasant majority shy away from it.

Start as friends and see where it goes. And if you see a cute girl walking along, 1) smile at her, and if she smiles back, 2) approach her or say something complimentary, depending on your distance from her, etc., and 3) talk a bit and, before leaving, ask for her number! Trust me, it's a good bit.

BTW, I met my girlfriend of 9 months through a mutual friend (who I had been hitting on at one point...DOH!)

Hey everyone, I put my pic up on exhibition.

Its not nude, and is safe for work.. I thought I would start off with somethind mild...

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=11993

Let me know what you think

thanks

It says that I don't have permission to access the page

probably because you don't have enough posts

Get your friends to have their girlfriends set you up on double dates or even blind dates. If you don't have friends, make some.

Get on Yahoo! and start sending e-mail to those wacky chicks who post personals on there. There's a million of 'em. Go screw one of those ho's, get your confidence up, then try to find a nice girl that will cook your breakfast and let you fuck her in the ass.

lol. Sounds like a plan :}

Relax. Quit a sport or two and take up drinking or smoking pot or listening to cool music and going to concerts. You'll get laid when you least expect it. Hell, I didn't get laid until I was friggin' 24 years old. Now it seems like I can fuck any chick I want. It's all about confidence and a shit-eatin' grin. Make fun of yourself but don't be pathetic. Don't whine. Act like you can take it or leave it. It's cliche as hell but it works. Turn off your computer and make a couple friends.

lmao, great post.

I feel your pain man, glad things are getting better. I've learned a few things. One, you gotta be a man, and that means you have to be confident. You can make them think you know what's going on, even if you don't. Two, don't be afraid of failure, cause there are a lot of girls out there, and not all of them want you.

Mabye there's some truth to that bit about loving yourself before you can love others...

Do something social rather than the individualistic stuff. Team sport, something weird like yoga, which is helpful for weight training as well, ceroc dancing, tango, a book club, any random club or soceity that might interest you? These activities are good because even if don't get introduced to people you are regonised away from classes and can start a conversation easier. You'll be surprised at what type of people share your interests. Aspire to be the person you want to be, but be sure that aspiration is not false.
Temet Nosce "Know thyself"

I just read throught his thread, and man do i have a big smile on my face right now :D
I am so happy that you're getting more and more confident, and asking girls out, heck i might even get inspired to do so myself, god knows i could use it, heheh.

I say keep up the good work man, it sounds like you're on the right path!
(But dont ask out to many girls in a row, you might end up being considered a skirtchaser (or something along those lines, i'm not quite sure what expression to use) Happy hunting :))

As a little followup to my other post i would like to say one thing:

You are going to be let down by some of the girls, if not a lot of them.
I know this is not exactly the way you would like things to be, but hear this:
That is the way woman works, some like you, others will ditch you with the blink of an eye.
Dont care to much about that, it's they who are missing out, not you - you will find someone else, and believe me - you will.
The important thing is to keep going, dont be let down by some random girl who dosent want anything to do with you no mather how nice you are.

Just keep at it.

Relax...Whether your fat or not, friendship will come to those who just let it happen, be your self, get involved in somthing that is giving of yourself (always helps your self esteem level)...Most of us try way too hard to impress people with what we think is attractive, and most of us have no idea what we look like to other people...at 19 your still a baby, it will happen.

Ack, I just found this thread, and it seems like the last post was on the 26th. I'm honestly intrigued, and can't wipe this grin off my face. Did this move somewhere else or have the posts just stopped?

Sorry, been quite busy and havnt had the chance to give an update. I still have no girlfriend and well, no friend at all for that matter.

I dont run with the new running partners anymore. The people who run at my pace hardly every show up, and the faster runners just waste me.

I dont have time for friends anyway, at least thats what I tell myself.

Later

Oh I forgot to tell you, of the two emails I got, one never emailed me back, I emailed her again a week alter, and now a week after that I have yet to recieve anything from her, so much for that...it would have been so much nicer if she would have just told me to F off from the get go.

The second girl is 24 and it turns out was trying to find a nice way to get rid of me. So much for that.


Im going to the shooting range this weekend (never been before). I havnt ever fired a gun before but for some reason I have been wanting to lately.

Don't forget to keep everything in persepective, and to take it one day at a time.

wow.. this is quite an inspirational thread... some amazing advice and encouragement from the group of people here known as the TFP community

I have an offtopic question, Washington, what's your career path?

Oh boy, you got my started...


During the Summer and Fall:

I attend The University of Akron, Ohio, as a physics student full time. Also, I am an Emergency Medical Technician (dude in an ambulance) and volunteer for a local fire station, A member of our local Search and Rescue Team, and a member of our Rescue Dive Team.


During the Winter (dec 10-June1) I move out west and am a level III certified PSIA Instructor for a ski resort out there. I also am a Tail guide for a ski guide company out there.


By the time I am 25, I will be a part time fighter pilot for the Air National Guard (flying 1 weekend a month/two weeks a year). From March-June I will fly to Alaska to guide helicopter skiing and fly back once a month to fulfill my air national guard duties.

During the time of the year that I am not heli-ski guiding or busy with air national guard duties, I will guide scientific expeditions and mountaineering expeditions all over the world.

If I ever get to old or decide I want to settle down a bit, I will, by then, have amassed enough hours to fly for a commercial ariliner. They make 200k a year and are only allowed to fly 15 days/month.



Currently, I have these accomplishments under my belt:

Eagle Scout
EMT-B
PADI Rescue Diver
Almost 3 years finished towards my physics degree
PSIA level III, Intermountain Ski Instructor
Canadian Avalanche Association Level I, Participant
6 years instructing experience
Privates Pilots License

OMG I totally agree with you john but he also has the effects of society bearing down on him.
MY ADVICE is to be yourself be honest to yourself and others, remember all you have accomplished so far in your life and be proud of that! Do NOT let others' opinions drag you down and never ever look at the ground keep your chin up or level with the ground it gives off the impression of confidence and being comfortable in the path you have taken in life(girls like that)!
ONE MORE THING as far as asking a pretty or beautiful girl out look at is this way life is full of regret and rejection is a 50/50 thing. The women could say yes 50% of the time or no 50% of the time. Besides if they say no its their loss not yours!!!
BTW i am female!!

Hey buddy, i just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth. Just like a lot of people posting here, I've been in your shoes. It looks like you're getting some good advice here, i just wanted to give you 2 quick ideas;
1) find some guy friends. It's a lot easier to find and talk to groups of girls when there's more than one of you looking. Some one to back you up, go out with you, help th eprocess along. God bless the wingman
2) Ever think about taking up a personal trainer job at a local health club? It's good pay, good times, and a great way to meet people with similar interests as you. it might be a start.
Best of luck

One sure fire way to meet women: The coffee bar.

Go to a coffee house once every 2 or 3 days for a few weeks. Bring a book, sit and drink. Become a regular. Start the nod and smile deal at the other regulars. Move up to a wave and then finally to the talk. Ask to go out for a cup of coffee some time ( this will get a laugh usually). Go to the movies, have dinner, have sex, get married and die. It all starts with the coffee bar.

I just spent the last 30 minuts reading this whole thread. The reason was, because Im almost on the same boat, besides that I idont have as many activities in my day.

I have only two good friends, Im not a bad looking guy, but Im skinny and its burried in me, although Im getting over it(I think). I need to find more things to fill out my day. I work and then go home do nothing. Im 18 years old, and my life stinks.

I saw you get better there, but with this post it just seems like you are giving up on all your new friends.

Never fear my man - at 6'2" and 200 lbs, your sure to get your share of chick action in college. Even if you have two noses, you're in there! Just relax and be yourself. Its easy to tell if somebody is uneasy with themselves (insecure). Women smell fear like grizzly bears smell deer. Act like your in total control of yourself and your emotions (even if your desperate as hell) and you should have no trouble finding women to date. Just remember, that girl that was flirting with you probably likes you and wouldn't mind going out with you if you asked. She could have been talking about somebody elses boyfriend, an old boyfriend, or even a new boyfriend (that's best, because then you can steal her right from under his nose)! Hang in there and you will be waking up smelling like perfume in no time. Guaranteed!

Although physical looks shouldn't be a factor in self-confidence, they are. Like the mature will tell you, work on your inner self, as that is the real deal. Accept you for who you are, and be happy with you.

Personally, I try to do that. I'm happy and proud of my body. However, you aren't, it seems. Work on the 'inner' side, but also join a gym. Eat right, and lift hard. In three weeks or so, you should start seeing a difference. Others around you notice, and you feel better about yourself. It also helps you sleep, gives you more energy, and helps with acne (I think) if you have that problem.

Smile at those around you. You'd be amazed at the results. I'm sure you're a grand guy. Go for it.

Washington - I've followed this whole thread and you're got a LOT going for you on many different fronts. Don't let your female issues discourage you from anything. These things work themselves out over time and you'll end up with someone real special in the process. I can't give you any specific advice that hasn't already been posted. You're doing everything right and will eventually have a HELL of a life!

The biggest problem is probably that you are spending too much time in forums asking what is wrong rather than trying to get out and meet someone.

sometimes, find a different environment from where you would normally be and just act a little bit like an idiot.... do or say things that you are not really comfortable saying in a normal situation. At a very minimum, this will make the things you do in a normal environ expand a little and open yourself up. Seriously, some of the most successful "social" people I know are idiots !!!

Old-ass thread that I recall reading with a massive grin.

Any new info, Washington? C'mon out, if you'd like! :)

I am on date #3 with a very beatutiful girl, and have dated exentsively before this girl (well, relative to what I was doing...)

Its weird...I just ask now. Granted I still psych myself out sometimes...but usually...I just ask.

I have had many brush offs and mean people who were just plain...mean. But...like i said above, since I started this thead, I have dated 4 people....1 for over a month. and i am now up to date 3 with an awesome girl!

I must say, thanks TFP members!

nice deal... I'm digging this thread... it's quite motivational to me ... even though I'm happily married, I can see just encouragement and development from all those involved.

good luck!!!!

wow, that's *really* anonymous...

Boo! guess who?

I thought id give an update. Act like you care and reply :)

Since I posted the original post, I am/have

A) been on dates with 4 girls.
B) dated two of them for more than 3 months
C) one of those actually lasted 5 months
D) am currently single
C) got laid ...a bunch :)


I dont really find myself actively looking for girls, I just let it happen.

Im in a dryspell right now :( heh

The last girl is the one who lasted so long...but she turned out to be very evil and crazy and belonged to a religious cult (redundant..I know). I wouldnt have minded, except she couldnt let me do my thing..always tying to convert me.

So yea..im still alive and all and doing well.

Laterz

I just found and read through this thread and must say this has been a very helpful and encouraging read.

I'm very happy to hear that the advice has worked for you as I'm confident much of the advice will be helpful for me as well.

Completely kickass, Washington. Glad to hear that you're having a blast. Keep rockin'.
:D