Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > The Academy > Tilted Life


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-18-2004, 03:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
Oh shit it's Wayne Brady!
 
CityOfAngels's Avatar
 
Location: Passenger seat of Wayne Brady's car.
Cracking your knuckles

I've been cracking my knuckles ever since 1992. I started off with just the big knuckles on my hands, and then went on to cracking my toe knuckles, and then on to the smaller knuckles at the tops of my fingers and my toes. Sometimes I'll even crack my back and my neck.

I've always wondered a few things about this:
a) What makes the cracking sound?
and b) Does it really cause arthritis? If so, why?

As for the sound, I've heard two theories:
a) When you add pressure to your joints, little air-pockets pop, causing the sound.
b) When you crack your knuckles, your cartilage snaps across the bones in the sudden movement.

As for the arthritis, I've also heard more than one theory:
a) You only get arthritis when you crack them in a crooked fashion. If you crack them straight without grinding the bones against each other, then there is no risk of arthritis. (I got this explanation from a few osteologists I worked with at a recent burial ground I monitored).
b) When the air pockets burst, your knuckles gradually fill up with liquid over time.
c) The cartilage gets worn down from rubbing against your bones all the time.

With all these theories, I am now more confused than I was before! Anyone know the real facts regarding this issue?
__________________
The words "love" and "life" go together. It is almost as if they are one. You must love to live, and you must live to love, or you have never lived nor loved at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeraph
...the best way to keep a big secret would be to make it public with disinformation...
CityOfAngels is offline  
Old 10-18-2004, 05:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
Junkie
 
hannukah harry's Avatar
 
for the sound, it's a), but it's not "air." it's gases that form in the joint. you pop it, it makes the sound, and the gases get reabsorbed into the surrounding tissue.

as for arthritis, no, it doesn't cause it. i broke my thumb a while back and asked my orthopedic surgeon about it, and according to him, no, it doesn't. that doesn't mean that further research won't change that, but so far that claim is unsupported.
__________________
shabbat shalom, mother fucker! - the hebrew hammer
hannukah harry is offline  
Old 10-18-2004, 06:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
Psycho
 
superiorrain's Avatar
 
Location: London
Knuckle cracking is indeed a build up gas ( mainly nitrogen) between the joints.

Arthritis i would say would not result from cracking any parts of your body however it could cause other damage. To crack a joint you need to strech it to a point that is not normally at. Always streching it that far could result in over streching ligaments and tendons and that may have some ill effects.

plus it is annoying.
superiorrain is offline  
Old 10-18-2004, 08:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
Junkie
 
hannukah harry's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by superiorrain
plus it is annoying.
i'm still wondering how i forgot that, too. thanks!
__________________
shabbat shalom, mother fucker! - the hebrew hammer
hannukah harry is offline  
Old 10-18-2004, 03:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
Mjollnir Incarnate
 
Location: Lost in thought
Quote:
Originally Posted by superiorrain
Arthritis i would say would not result from cracking any parts of your body however it could cause other damage. To crack a joint you need to strech it to a point that is not normally at. Always streching it that far could result in over streching ligaments and tendons and that may have some ill effects.
I'd think that doing that would be benificial. You're stretching the ligaments/tendons, resulting in more flexibility. Maybe not, but the theory is sound.

And it's not too annoying. Only when you're trying to study in a library and a kid right behind you is popping them, one by one. And he cracks his toes. And his back. And his neck. And his elbows.

Speaking of elbows, anyone else crack theirs? I can do it about once a day, and I'll tell you -- this crack has bass to it...
Slavakion is offline  
Old 10-18-2004, 04:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
Upright
 
i obsessively compulsively crack my knuckles. if it does cause any long term damage then i'm in some big trouble.
gospastic is offline  
Old 10-18-2004, 09:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
Insane
 
Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavakion
Speaking of elbows, anyone else crack theirs? I can do it about once a day, and I'll tell you -- this crack has bass to it...
Dear god I can let off a huge crack in my left elbow about once an hour or so. Man does it feel nice :P
Chuckles is offline  
Old 10-18-2004, 10:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
Tilted
 
Every time I get up from sitting through a film at a movie theater, it feels and sounds like I crack every vertebrae in my spine. I can't help it, I lock up. I used to crack my knuckles when I was younger, but I haven't cracked them manually (one against the other in ages), but if I extend and close my fist, they all crack just as if I was cracking them manually. Is that common? Sort of like Chuckle's elbow, only both hands. I'm double-jointed in every finger, if that makes a difference.
yster is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 02:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
Upright
 
Location: The Free State
My boyfriend pops his neck. It really freaks me out 'cause it looks like he is about to snap his head off. Are there negatives to popping your neck? If not.. can anyone come up with a creative reason I could tell him not to do it. .just so he will stop?
IndianaGirl is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 03:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
MSD
The sky calls to us ...
 
MSD's Avatar
 
Super Moderator
Location: CT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavakion
Speaking of elbows, anyone else crack theirs? I can do it about once a day, and I'll tell you -- this crack has bass to it...
Yup, but mine are more of a grinding sound.
MSD is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 04:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
Mjollnir Incarnate
 
Location: Lost in thought
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndianaGirl
My boyfriend pops his neck. It really freaks me out 'cause it looks like he is about to snap his head off. Are there negatives to popping your neck? If not.. can anyone come up with a creative reason I could tell him not to do it. .just so he will stop?
I pop my neck sometimes, too. It freaks me out when I do it. Just something about hearing/feeling that pop in your neck doesn't sit well.

If you really want him to stop, try laying on the old "arthritis" guilt trip. Chances are he won't fall for arthritis of the neck, but it's worth a shot.
Slavakion is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 05:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
Tilted
 
I fire 'em off all the time! Sometimes in a statico blast, almost all at once, and other times one joint at a time. I use it as a warm up to hand stretches because I type all the time. I also can do wrists, back, neck, toes, and sometimes knees too. (I just popped 'em now! )
JaySpencer is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 06:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: The state of denial
My back sometimes aches when I'm sitting down and it goes away when I crack it. I wonder why that is.
madcow is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 06:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
Upright
 
The Real Deal on Cracking Your Kuckles
What's really happening when you "crack" your knuckles is that you are either pushing the joint back into or out of its normal position. Joints are the meeting points of two separate bones which are held together by connecting tissues and ligaments. A thick, clear lubricant (made mostly of carbon dioxide and some nitrogen) called synovial fluid is found between the bones. When you stretch or pull your finger to get that desired popping noise, you are causing the bones to pull apart. Pressure is reduced on the synovial fluid and bubbles form that quickly expand and then burst - which is why you get that noise.

Does Knuckle Cracking Lead to Arthritis?
Not everybody's joints crack. Some people have a larger separation between the bones and some people can't relax enough to allow the bones to separate. If you can crack and your mom tells you, you're going to get arthritis, she's just yanking your chain. There is no scientific evidence that cracking your knuckles leads to arthritis. However, it can't be good to repeatedly push a joint beyond its normal physical range. Besides that, it's annoying. Cracking your knuckles can cause a decrease in your grip but unless you're signing any multi-million dollar contracts as a pitcher, it's not worth giving up. But it's still annoying.

bc
briedcan is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 06:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Cracking your joints does not give you arthritis.

This is a myth. One that I believed until I married my wife. She's got three degrees is human anatomy, including a Master's Degree in Manipulative Physiotherapy. She says that it doesn't cause degenerative damage to the joints and in some circumstances it's actually good for you. Can't remember the details.

Hoewver, I can't shake the memory of my mother banging me on my ear and saying "Stop that! You'll get arthritis"...



Mr Mephisto
Mephisto2 is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 06:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
<Insert wise statement here>
 
MageB420666's Avatar
 
Location: Hell if I know
heh, I pop my neck all the time. My mother, father, girlfriend, and brother all refer to it as me "kick starting my brain". I get some nice loud pops too, it freaks other people out because it sounds like my neck is breaking. I can pop my most of my finger joints, knuckles, thumbs, wrists, elbows, neck, back, knees, ankle, and toes.
__________________
Apathy: The best outlook this side of I don't give a damn.
MageB420666 is offline  
Old 10-26-2004, 10:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Delirious's Avatar
 
Location: Queens, NY
Ever since I sprained my ankle a few months ago my foot and ankle area crack when I get up in the morning. Either my Mom or someone sure put the fear of arthritis in me cause I won't dare crack my knuckles-- even though as I am reading this thread I have the biggest urge to do it~
Delirious is offline  
Old 10-27-2004, 03:28 AM   #18 (permalink)
Oh shit it's Wayne Brady!
 
CityOfAngels's Avatar
 
Location: Passenger seat of Wayne Brady's car.
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndianaGirl
My boyfriend pops his neck. It really freaks me out 'cause it looks like he is about to snap his head off. Are there negatives to popping your neck? If not.. can anyone come up with a creative reason I could tell him not to do it. .just so he will stop?
Actually, I had a friend once who jacked up her neck doing that. She tried popping it, and all it took was one miscalculation in her positioning and she had to wear a neck brace for a few months.
__________________
The words "love" and "life" go together. It is almost as if they are one. You must love to live, and you must live to love, or you have never lived nor loved at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeraph
...the best way to keep a big secret would be to make it public with disinformation...
CityOfAngels is offline  
Old 10-27-2004, 07:42 AM   #19 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Location: Louisville, KY
Quote:
Originally Posted by CityOfAngels
Actually, I had a friend once who jacked up her neck doing that. She tried popping it, and all it took was one miscalculation in her positioning and she had to wear a neck brace for a few months.
Yea, I crack my knuckles, neck, various vertebrae, and other joints quite often. I'm sure one of these days i'm going to end up in a neck brace like your friend, or worse, but until then...
__________________
You do not use a Macintosh, instead you use a Tandy
Kompressor break your glowstick, Kompressor eat your candy
Kompressor open jaws, Kompressor release ants
Kompressor watch you scream, Because Kompressor does not dance
Nefir is offline  
Old 10-27-2004, 08:22 AM   #20 (permalink)
Junkie
 
I pop my knees by pulling back on the kneecap while my legs are bent (at the knee) ... anyone else here do that?
vanblah is offline  
Old 10-27-2004, 09:30 AM   #21 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
I remember the first time I went to yoga. It was a class of all first timers. During the course of the session it sounded like someone was making popcorn. If you are stretching in a way that is healthy, cracking is nothing to worry about. I stretch my fingers and hands before I play piano. They crack, I can play with ease.
Willravel is offline  
Old 10-27-2004, 11:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
Mjollnir Incarnate
 
Location: Lost in thought
Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
If you are stretching in a way that is healthy, cracking is nothing to worry about.
Almost every time I crouch down, my knees and ankles go off. And if that doesn't work, going up on my toes will get my ankles. Don't ask me why...
Slavakion is offline  
Old 10-28-2004, 06:55 AM   #23 (permalink)
Insane
 
Anyone else notice that after the first time you crack something you do it all the time and you feel the NEED to crack it because it feels stiff or something? I know with my neck I never used to crack it. Now I do it all the time and it feels sooo good sometimes. I always feel like I gain manuverability as well, like my range of motion is limited until after I crack my neck. Anyone else get that feeling?
__________________
"Your life is yours to live, go out and live it" - Richard Rahl
Booboo is offline  
Old 10-28-2004, 07:25 AM   #24 (permalink)
Banned from being Banned
 
Location: Donkey
Friends and family have asked their chiropractors over the years (there's even one in my step-dad's family) who say that there's absolutely nothing wrong with cracking your joints.

It actually is beneficial, but in a very small way. I don't remember the exact reason, but it's equivalent to stretching your mucles every now and then for no reason whatsoever instead of just before/after exercise, etc.
__________________
I love lamp.
Stompy is offline  
Old 10-28-2004, 08:14 AM   #25 (permalink)
*edited for content*
 
Irishsean's Avatar
 
Location: Austin, TX
I can crack my ankles and hips, only person I know who can do that. My brother can crack his elbows, knees, and toes without any outside manipulation.
__________________
There are no absolute rules of conduct, either in peace or war. Everything depends on circumstances.
Leon Trotsky
Irishsean is offline  
Old 10-28-2004, 08:27 AM   #26 (permalink)
Is In Love
 
Averett's Avatar
 
Location: I'm workin' on it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishsean
I can crack my ankles and hips, only person I know who can do that. My brother can crack his elbows, knees, and toes without any outside manipulation.
Now you know another Nearly every single morning when I'm out of the shower drying my legs, I'll pop my hips. Feels so good!
__________________
Absence is to love what wind is to fire. It extinguishes the small, it enkindles the great.
Averett is offline  
Old 10-28-2004, 08:49 AM   #27 (permalink)
*edited for content*
 
Irishsean's Avatar
 
Location: Austin, TX
If I do it where anyone can hear them pop, I get nasty looks and most people cringe. Feels good to me tho.
__________________
There are no absolute rules of conduct, either in peace or war. Everything depends on circumstances.
Leon Trotsky
Irishsean is offline  
Old 10-28-2004, 12:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
Psycho
 
Location: London, England
I've done my knuckles for a few years.. and my back also. That started iwth a friend helping me to crack it, was the best feeling ever. Now the back of a chair comes in use VERY frequently! I didn't know that it DIDNT cause arthritis though, thats good that that is no longer a 'don't crack ur knuckles' point. the annoyingness still stands...
HockeyGuy is offline  
Old 10-28-2004, 12:55 PM   #29 (permalink)
Psycho
 
Location: London, England
<i>Originally Posted by Irishsean
I can crack my ankles and hips,</i>

I crack my ankles too! just not the hips.
HockeyGuy is offline  
 

Tags
cracking, knuckles


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:40 PM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360