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Moobie · 06-30-2004, 05:19 PM

I need some help here. The place I'm renting is infested with Brown Recluses.

I'm so sick and tired of dealing with them. I've had the landlord spray for the dirty bastards three or four times and they're still not dead yet. I would appreciate it if anyone has any ideas or has dealt with them before and can give me some tips. Cause whatever the pest control dude is using it might aswell be water.

And there's nothing like living in a place where shit will eat the flesh off your body.

shakran · 06-30-2004, 05:27 PM

Are you SURE they're brown recluses? If they are they'll have a little dark brown violin shaped mark on their thorax.

I'd call in a pro - sounds like you're infested and that takes pros to take care of.

Moobie · 06-30-2004, 05:43 PM

No they're Recluses trust me. I can spot them a mile away now based soley on how they move. I don't even need to see the violin. The last place we lived at had them worse. My wife got bit twice.

I hate these little bastards. I just found one in the bathroom is why I'm asking. He stewing in a jar so I can show the exterminator when he shows up. I was just wondering if anyone knew something specific that I could ask them to do. Cause I've heard that spraying is sometimes not enough.

raeanna74 · 06-30-2004, 07:08 PM

This particular site seems quite informativeErradication

One thing I found of interest was using sticky boards or strips in areas where you suspect they are living. That would tell you were to look and where to send the pest control people.

We had a number of brown recluse in a basement apt we lived in a few years ago. One thing this article mentioned was that they liked to live above suspended ceilings. The entire ceiling in our place was a suspended ceiling and I suspect that's where the worst infestation would have been found. I did find that our back door seemed to have cracks around it that were quite wide. We never used that door so I duct taped around the inside. Yeah not exactly attractive but neither is a brown recluse bite. It did seem to reduce the numbers of bugs in general when I did that.

Also, as the article said, reducing the other creepy crawlings in and around your home will attract fewer spiders. If there's no food they will quit coming.

I thought they really covered a lot of different things you can do to eliminate or at least reduce their numbers. Then when you call in a professional once again they may be more effective.

I remember hubby getting a bite and it took months to clear up. That gotta suck. I wish you good luck in getting rid of those creep crawlies. Outdoors? or non biting spiders in a couple corners of my house I don't mind. Indoor spider that bite me? Forget about it - it's all-out war.

Harshaw · 06-30-2004, 07:19 PM

You know... I wish I had never clicked on this thread... damn it.

/Sorry, I can't help. But if it helps, now I have the heebe geebes

yakimushi · 06-30-2004, 07:50 PM

How big are your shoes?

Seriously, your landlord is probably going the cheapest route hiring an exterminatior. Hire your own and present the landlord with the bill.

Good luck, those fuckers are nasty.

Eviltree · 06-30-2004, 10:35 PM

I got bit by one of those guys when I was little

Chuckles · 06-30-2004, 10:53 PM

buy a nuke. nuke your house.

jaco · 07-01-2004, 01:00 AM

Spraying spiders does not work unless you hit them directly. the reason spraying works with creatures such as roaches is that they will walk around in the places you sprayed, getting the chemicals on their legs/feet. After a while they will clean themselves with their mouths thereby injesting the nice muscle contractor and die a slow and horrible death. Spiders dont clean their legs with their mouths.

A few tricks I can think of is to debug your house of any edibles for the spiders. Lay out a sheet of fly paper in dark corners, anything walking on it is officially screwed *works wonders on fleas gnats and pretty much anything that moves alot*. Tape/foam up any cracks in floorboards and ceilings.

Rodney · 07-02-2004, 07:07 AM

Here's an excellent site on how to stay safe with brown recluse spiders around:

http://spiders.ucr.edu/avoidbites.html

It looks like what you have is actually a brown recluse spider, but I want to make the point that according to scientists (and there's a map on this site) brown recluse spiders live only in certain areas of the country, mainly the midwest and parts of the southwest. There are other spiders that can look somewhat similar (or not) and give an equally necrotic bite: the hobot spider, the aggressive house spider (we've got those), and others.

Is this an important distinction? Well maybe, if you're looking to prevent them or protect yourself. All species are different, and you want to make sure you're taking the right countermeasures.

Rodney · 07-02-2004, 07:11 AM

Hey, on the same spider site above I found a brown recluse "challenge" page in which you send him either the spider or a picture of the spider, and he'll tell you whether it's a brown recluse or not. And if it's not, he'll tell you what it actually is. Try:

http://spiders.ucr.edu/challenge.html

pinkie · 07-02-2004, 09:23 AM

"Despite all the hoopla surrounding the brown recluse, there is still not one PROVEN death due to brown recluse bite" -- From that website.

I happen to know of a woman here in our town who died as a result of an untreated brown recluse spider bite. A good friend of mine was the nurse that was treating her in the hospital. The woman was morbidly obese, and the bite had opened up a hole in her abdomen. It entered her internal organs and was eating her inside out. The infection was so bad the hospital was unable to save her by the time she got there. She died about a month after entering their care.

"Most households with brown recluses never experience a bite
90% of all brown recluse bites heal without severe scarring.
Many brown recluse bites cause just a little red mark that heals without event. " -- Also from that website

I've had two brown recluse bites. I know they were brown recluse bites, because our house was infested with them, and I was told, “That’s what it looks like, that’s what they do.” -- By two different doctors and nurses. Both bites ate holes in my skin too. Both left large scars. They looked about like this:

The one thing that bothers me about this site, is that the guy is talking like all who read his site are mislead dummies, and he's setting them straight. With the whole, "This is not a picture of a brown recluse spider"

No kidding, it doesn't even look like one. Not everyone just jumps to a conclusion with out being sure of what they are identifying, like this guy likes to assume. I've seen this attitude in medical professionals before, and it's very disheartening. I mean, you don’t have to bring the mosquito to the hospital with you to PROVE it’s a mosquito bite, now do you? Condescending bastard…

I know what a brown recluse looks like!

pinkie · 07-02-2004, 10:54 AM

Side note: That is not my leg.

Moobie · 07-02-2004, 12:06 PM

Ewwwww....

The reason that the guy from http://spiders.ucr.edu/avoidbites.html is so patronising is because he lives in California. Not to say that people in California are asses, but Brown Recluses aren't native to California. Though I didn't see him mention that on his page, so it's his fault for assuming that only people that live on the west coast would read his website. Apparently according to this site there have been fewer than 10 individual spiders that have ever been collected outside of the mid and south western states. In Missouri there are definatly Brown Recluses and like pinkie said people do die from them.

Now when that guy said that there weren't any PROVEN he's right technically because as of right now there is no way to detect the Brown Recluse venom. So the only way to prove that you've been bitten is to have the offending spider in custody. Which is usually rare. But just because you can't chemically detect the venom doesn't mean that you can identify the effects of a bite, just look at that nasty image pinkie posted.

And Rodney that spider submission challenge is only for people that live in Calif. Because Brown Recluses aren't supposed to exist there. They definatly live in Missouri so it wouldn't be much of a challenge.

I'll have to get ahold of a digital camera and show you guys what I found in my bathroom.

*edited because I'm a retard

raeanna74 · 07-02-2004, 04:37 PM

Brown Recluse are most certainly found in Wisconsin. Hubby got a bite on his shin that took about 3 months to heal up. The worst part about a brown recluse bite is that it causes the skin around the bite to progressively die. Eventually the damage wears off and the site can be begin to heal. The whole process can take a very long time and while you have an open sore on your leg you are susceptable to any kind of infection. It's secondary infections that cause the most trouble with them.

This is not to say that the festering wound isn't bad, annoying, and potentially dangerous but with proper care you can help it not get infected and eventually heal.

We only have a few mildly venomous spiders in Wisconsin. I have seen, caught, and gotten identified a Wolf Spider. I also know there are Brown Recluse around. Though neither one is really very common and neither one kill as does the black widow spider. They cause local reactions usually. It could be dangerous for an infant to be bitten simply because of the venom "dosage" to weight ratio.

I hope you have good luck in beating these suckers whatever they may be. Those sticky traps along walls and such sound quite helpful. At least they would help keep down their numbers and also tell you where they frequent the most.

canuckguy · 07-02-2004, 06:32 PM

thank god i live in canada, cold freezes them stiff. now i will have nightmares about spiders.....ewwww. good luck btw! i'd move!

Moobie · 07-02-2004, 06:59 PM

Necrosis is not a fun thing. I didn't realize that they were so wide spread. All the way up in Wisconsin huh? I knew a guy who's girlfriend got bit by one up in Oregon, also where they are not supposed to be. I guess it got pretty bad, cause the doctor's up there had no idea what it was. They'd never seen it before.

The problem with moving is that they tend to follow you. The last place we lived was a really old house that was completely infested with them. That's where my wife got bit. They were living in the basement and would come up to find refuge from the guy that lived below us that would smoke a carton of cigarettes a day.

We finally bolted from that hell hole. Unfortunately I'm sure that some of them followed us here. But I also think that a lot of Missouri is infested with them. I've found a couple at work too. And I know they didn't follow me there.

canuckguy · 07-03-2004, 05:24 AM

just an update....yes i had some scary nightmares last night.....thanks again.

Moobie · 07-03-2004, 11:47 AM

Sorry man, you should be thankful. Not about the nightmares, but that you don't have to worry about those things.

pinkie · 07-03-2004, 11:58 AM

Yeah, I went to sleep last night thinking about the possibility of one crawling onto the bed and biting my face. Anywhere but the face (and my, ahem) Mr. Spider, thank you very much.

Little bastards.

jhericurl21 · 07-05-2004, 07:50 PM

Does anyone know of a site saying what kind of spiders are in Edmonton,Alberta. I got these lil brown fuckers in my basement, bout quarter sized

Xothan · 07-06-2004, 07:22 PM

Move, and/or pay to have the house demolished. That's what I would do. I HATE God damned spiders!

-Ever- · 07-07-2004, 07:08 PM

Whoa. I found this in a box of mine about a year ago and did some research. I thought I found out that it wasn't a brown recluse...

Anyone care to confirm?

PS: I live in California, well away from the Mid/Southwest.

A pic I took:

pinkie · 07-08-2004, 12:58 PM

No, that's not a brown recluse. The markings are wrong for a brown recluse. I don't know what that is.

Anyone?

Or is it???

pinkie · 07-08-2004, 01:00 PM

Yeah, no that's not one.

pinkie · 07-08-2004, 01:02 PM

Where's Moobie? He'd know.

-Ever- · 07-08-2004, 02:24 PM

I think the "butt" section of it is wrong. The brown recluse seems to be more rounded and tight while the one I found is more oval and hairy/not pulled tight.

Also, the colors seem to be inverted in my picture as far as the "violin" coloring goes. Here's another link to a BR:

I'd still like to be sure

Moobie · 07-09-2004, 08:01 AM

Brown Recluse spider's have the ability to breed with other species of spiders, which has the effect of changing their appearances. It also pretty much dilutes their venom. So there are spiders out there that may have the markings of both, but aren't really much of a danger.

While the picture you posted doesn't really look like a brown recluse the pictures are kinda hard to see. It looks more like a wolf spider. Big question, is it hairy? BR's have very tiny hairs, they're almost naked. So if it's hairy then you're probably safe.

Here's a pic of a wolf spider:

The markings match the edited one pinkie posted. I have a feeling you're probably okay. To be safe you could always take it to an exterminator.

But at the very least you should probably just kill it. It's the only way to be sure.

-Ever- · 07-09-2004, 12:04 PM

Great, thanks for the info. And yeah it is hairy, however it seems to be skinnier and more wiry than a wolf spider. And the one I took a pic of is from about a year ago so I'll have to wait and see

Thanks guys
-T

Moobie · 07-09-2004, 01:36 PM

Yeah the one in the picture I posted is a lot thicker than your picture, but it's the best pic I could find of the markings. Though wolf spiders tend to have varying body types, their markings are usually consistent. I don't know if some of them are just fatties or what. Then again your pic does show a resemblance to brown recluses, mainly in the mandibles and the stature of the body. So it could actually be a cross breed. Post more pics if you come across them.

-Ever- · 07-09-2004, 02:10 PM

I'd be surprised if it was some kind of crossbreed seeing that I'm far from the Midwest, but your conclusions seem pretty correct.

Here's the only other pic I took.

mew · 07-17-2004, 09:36 PM

Im having the same problems with spiders. Im terrified of them as well. I believe that theyre the same type as well (Brown Recluses). And I have a nest of some sort of hornets. At first I thought they were black beetles, but upon closer (and scary) inspection, they were young hornets. I dont know where they come from, but they keep on comming. Anyways, I cant seem to kill them, so I have my cup and piece of paper handy. In the wintertime they get banned to the attic. Pathetic, but I just cant kill them.
Oh, I also heard that house spiders breed well in moist housings, so if you have an old building that possibly has moisture in between the walls, your screwed.

whocarz · 07-18-2004, 02:17 PM

Time to call a Broken Arrow on your house.

raeanna74 · 07-19-2004, 05:52 AM

Just had to post what I learned about the wolf spider when I found one in my home. I realize you're not likely dealing with that but after seeing the pic of one it could be creapy to imagine that in your home.

The nice thing about a wolf spider is that they drag their egg sack with them. If you find a wolf spider with no egg sack you can be sure there are no eggs around. If you find one with an egg sack you can eliminate the whole lot in one stomp. Those suckers are FAST though. They're a hunting spider and roam a lot. They don't usually stay in one place. They're vagrants and even carry their babies on their backs. They don't keep a home. They are mildly poisonous but only to a small child who might roll over on them. Mostly they'll run from humans though so bites from Wolf spiders are rare.

They are quite large and look a little hairy though so seeing one unexpectedly in your home can definately give you nightmares though. They don't like company though so if you find one you can pretty much count that there isn't another one nearby. They're loners. They're usually only found in a home during the spring and fall months when it gets colder outside. They'll usually move on quite quickly too.

06-30-2004, 05:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Killing Spiders I need some help here. The place I'm renting is infested with Brown Recluses. I'm so sick and tired of dealing with them. I've had the landlord spray for the dirty bastards three or four times and they're still not dead yet. I would appreciate it if anyone has any ideas or has dealt with them before and can give me some tips. Cause whatever the pest control dude is using it might aswell be water. And there's nothing like living in a place where shit will eat the flesh off your body. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

06-30-2004, 05:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	No they're Recluses trust me. I can spot them a mile away now based soley on how they move. I don't even need to see the violin. The last place we lived at had them worse. My wife got bit twice. I hate these little bastards. I just found one in the bathroom is why I'm asking. He stewing in a jar so I can show the exterminator when he shows up. I was just wondering if anyone knew something specific that I could ask them to do. Cause I've heard that spraying is sometimes not enough. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

06-30-2004, 07:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	This particular site seems quite informativeErradication One thing I found of interest was using sticky boards or strips in areas where you suspect they are living. That would tell you were to look and where to send the pest control people. We had a number of brown recluse in a basement apt we lived in a few years ago. One thing this article mentioned was that they liked to live above suspended ceilings. The entire ceiling in our place was a suspended ceiling and I suspect that's where the worst infestation would have been found. I did find that our back door seemed to have cracks around it that were quite wide. We never used that door so I duct taped around the inside. Yeah not exactly attractive but neither is a brown recluse bite. It did seem to reduce the numbers of bugs in general when I did that. Also, as the article said, reducing the other creepy crawlings in and around your home will attract fewer spiders. If there's no food they will quit coming. I thought they really covered a lot of different things you can do to eliminate or at least reduce their numbers. Then when you call in a professional once again they may be more effective. I remember hubby getting a bite and it took months to clear up. That gotta suck. I wish you good luck in getting rid of those creep crawlies. Outdoors? or non biting spiders in a couple corners of my house I don't mind. Indoor spider that bite me? Forget about it - it's all-out war. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

06-30-2004, 07:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Harshaw Is mad at you. Location: Bored in Sacramento	You know... I wish I had never clicked on this thread... damn it. /Sorry, I can't help. But if it helps, now I have the heebe geebes __________________ This too shall pass.

07-01-2004, 01:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
jaco Crazy	Spraying spiders does not work unless you hit them directly. the reason spraying works with creatures such as roaches is that they will walk around in the places you sprayed, getting the chemicals on their legs/feet. After a while they will clean themselves with their mouths thereby injesting the nice muscle contractor and die a slow and horrible death. Spiders dont clean their legs with their mouths. A few tricks I can think of is to debug your house of any edibles for the spiders. Lay out a sheet of fly paper in dark corners, anything walking on it is officially screwed works wonders on fleas gnats and pretty much anything that moves alot. Tape/foam up any cracks in floorboards and ceilings. __________________ "How soft your fields so green, Can whisper tales of gore" "Thou art god"

06-30-2004, 05:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	Are you SURE they're brown recluses? If they are they'll have a little dark brown violin shaped mark on their thorax. I'd call in a pro - sounds like you're infested and that takes pros to take care of.

06-30-2004, 07:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
yakimushi Addict	How big are your shoes? Seriously, your landlord is probably going the cheapest route hiring an exterminatior. Hire your own and present the landlord with the bill. Good luck, those fuckers are nasty.

06-30-2004, 10:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Eviltree Psycho Location: British Columbia	I got bit by one of those guys when I was little

06-30-2004, 10:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chuckles Insane Location: California	buy a nuke. nuke your house.

07-02-2004, 07:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	Here's an excellent site on how to stay safe with brown recluse spiders around: http://spiders.ucr.edu/avoidbites.html It looks like what you have is actually a brown recluse spider, but I want to make the point that according to scientists (and there's a map on this site) brown recluse spiders live only in certain areas of the country, mainly the midwest and parts of the southwest. There are other spiders that can look somewhat similar (or not) and give an equally necrotic bite: the hobot spider, the aggressive house spider (we've got those), and others. Is this an important distinction? Well maybe, if you're looking to prevent them or protect yourself. All species are different, and you want to make sure you're taking the right countermeasures.

07-02-2004, 07:11 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	Hey, on the same spider site above I found a brown recluse "challenge" page in which you send him either the spider or a picture of the spider, and he'll tell you whether it's a brown recluse or not. And if it's not, he'll tell you what it actually is. Try: http://spiders.ucr.edu/challenge.html

07-02-2004, 09:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	"Despite all the hoopla surrounding the brown recluse, there is still not one PROVEN death due to brown recluse bite" -- From that website. I happen to know of a woman here in our town who died as a result of an untreated brown recluse spider bite. A good friend of mine was the nurse that was treating her in the hospital. The woman was morbidly obese, and the bite had opened up a hole in her abdomen. It entered her internal organs and was eating her inside out. The infection was so bad the hospital was unable to save her by the time she got there. She died about a month after entering their care. "Most households with brown recluses never experience a bite 90% of all brown recluse bites heal without severe scarring. Many brown recluse bites cause just a little red mark that heals without event. " -- Also from that website I've had two brown recluse bites. I know they were brown recluse bites, because our house was infested with them, and I was told, “That’s what it looks like, that’s what they do.” -- By two different doctors and nurses. Both bites ate holes in my skin too. Both left large scars. They looked about like this: The one thing that bothers me about this site, is that the guy is talking like all who read his site are mislead dummies, and he's setting them straight. With the whole, "This is not a picture of a brown recluse spider" No kidding, it doesn't even look like one. Not everyone just jumps to a conclusion with out being sure of what they are identifying, like this guy likes to assume. I've seen this attitude in medical professionals before, and it's very disheartening. I mean, you don’t have to bring the mosquito to the hospital with you to PROVE it’s a mosquito bite, now do you? Condescending bastard… I know what a brown recluse looks like! Last edited by pinkie; 07-02-2004 at 10:53 AM..

07-02-2004, 10:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	Side note: That is not my leg.

07-02-2004, 12:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Ewwwww.... The reason that the guy from http://spiders.ucr.edu/avoidbites.html is so patronising is because he lives in California. Not to say that people in California are asses, but Brown Recluses aren't native to California. Though I didn't see him mention that on his page, so it's his fault for assuming that only people that live on the west coast would read his website. Apparently according to this site there have been fewer than 10 individual spiders that have ever been collected outside of the mid and south western states. In Missouri there are definatly Brown Recluses and like pinkie said people do die from them. Now when that guy said that there weren't any PROVEN he's right technically because as of right now there is no way to detect the Brown Recluse venom. So the only way to prove that you've been bitten is to have the offending spider in custody. Which is usually rare. But just because you can't chemically detect the venom doesn't mean that you can identify the effects of a bite, just look at that nasty image pinkie posted. And Rodney that spider submission challenge is only for people that live in Calif. Because Brown Recluses aren't supposed to exist there. They definatly live in Missouri so it wouldn't be much of a challenge. I'll have to get ahold of a digital camera and show you guys what I found in my bathroom. edited because I'm a retard __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.* Last edited by Moobie; 07-02-2004 at 12:15 PM..

07-02-2004, 04:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	Brown Recluse are most certainly found in Wisconsin. Hubby got a bite on his shin that took about 3 months to heal up. The worst part about a brown recluse bite is that it causes the skin around the bite to progressively die. Eventually the damage wears off and the site can be begin to heal. The whole process can take a very long time and while you have an open sore on your leg you are susceptable to any kind of infection. It's secondary infections that cause the most trouble with them. This is not to say that the festering wound isn't bad, annoying, and potentially dangerous but with proper care you can help it not get infected and eventually heal. We only have a few mildly venomous spiders in Wisconsin. I have seen, caught, and gotten identified a Wolf Spider. I also know there are Brown Recluse around. Though neither one is really very common and neither one kill as does the black widow spider. They cause local reactions usually. It could be dangerous for an infant to be bitten simply because of the venom "dosage" to weight ratio. I hope you have good luck in beating these suckers whatever they may be. Those sticky traps along walls and such sound quite helpful. At least they would help keep down their numbers and also tell you where they frequent the most. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

07-02-2004, 06:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
canuckguy I read your emails. Location: earth	thank god i live in canada, cold freezes them stiff. now i will have nightmares about spiders.....ewwww. good luck btw! i'd move!

07-02-2004, 06:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Necrosis is not a fun thing. I didn't realize that they were so wide spread. All the way up in Wisconsin huh? I knew a guy who's girlfriend got bit by one up in Oregon, also where they are not supposed to be. I guess it got pretty bad, cause the doctor's up there had no idea what it was. They'd never seen it before. The problem with moving is that they tend to follow you. The last place we lived was a really old house that was completely infested with them. That's where my wife got bit. They were living in the basement and would come up to find refuge from the guy that lived below us that would smoke a carton of cigarettes a day. We finally bolted from that hell hole. Unfortunately I'm sure that some of them followed us here. But I also think that a lot of Missouri is infested with them. I've found a couple at work too. And I know they didn't follow me there. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

07-03-2004, 05:24 AM	#18 (permalink)
canuckguy I read your emails. Location: earth	just an update....yes i had some scary nightmares last night.....thanks again.

07-03-2004, 11:47 AM	#19 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Sorry man, you should be thankful. Not about the nightmares, but that you don't have to worry about those things. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

07-03-2004, 11:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	Go buy sticky strips today!!!!! Yeah, I went to sleep last night thinking about the possibility of one crawling onto the bed and biting my face. Anywhere but the face (and my, ahem) Mr. Spider, thank you very much. Little bastards.

07-05-2004, 07:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
jhericurl21 Banned	Does anyone know of a site saying what kind of spiders are in Edmonton,Alberta. I got these lil brown fuckers in my basement, bout quarter sized

07-06-2004, 07:22 PM	#22 (permalink)
Xothan Tilted Location: Athens, GA	Move, and/or pay to have the house demolished. That's what I would do. I HATE God damned spiders! __________________ Xothan AIM - icarlson75

07-07-2004, 07:08 PM	#23 (permalink)
-Ever- Junkie Location: San Francisco	Whoa. I found this in a box of mine about a year ago and did some research. I thought I found out that it wasn't a brown recluse... Anyone care to confirm? PS: I live in California, well away from the Mid/Southwest. A pic I took: __________________ Embracing the goddess energy within yourselves will bring all of you to a new understanding and valuing of life. A vision that inspires you to live and love on planet Earth. Like a priceless jewel buried in dark layers of soil and stone, Earth radiates her brilliant beauty into the caverns of space and time. Perhaps you are aware of those who watch over your home And experience of this place to visit and play with reality. You are becoming aware of yourself as a gamemaster... --Acknowledge your weaknesses-- Last edited by -Ever-; 07-07-2004 at 07:13 PM..

07-08-2004, 12:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	No, that's not a brown recluse. The markings are wrong for a brown recluse. I don't know what that is. Anyone? Or is it???

07-08-2004, 01:00 PM	#25 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	Yeah, no that's not one.

07-08-2004, 01:02 PM	#26 (permalink)
pinkie Helplessly hoping Location: Above the stars	Where's Moobie? He'd know.

07-08-2004, 02:24 PM	#27 (permalink)
-Ever- Junkie Location: San Francisco	I think the "butt" section of it is wrong. The brown recluse seems to be more rounded and tight while the one I found is more oval and hairy/not pulled tight. Also, the colors seem to be inverted in my picture as far as the "violin" coloring goes. Here's another link to a BR: I'd still like to be sure __________________ Embracing the goddess energy within yourselves will bring all of you to a new understanding and valuing of life. A vision that inspires you to live and love on planet Earth. Like a priceless jewel buried in dark layers of soil and stone, Earth radiates her brilliant beauty into the caverns of space and time. Perhaps you are aware of those who watch over your home And experience of this place to visit and play with reality. You are becoming aware of yourself as a gamemaster... --Acknowledge your weaknesses-- Last edited by -Ever-; 07-08-2004 at 02:28 PM..

07-09-2004, 08:01 AM	#28 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Brown Recluse spider's have the ability to breed with other species of spiders, which has the effect of changing their appearances. It also pretty much dilutes their venom. So there are spiders out there that may have the markings of both, but aren't really much of a danger. While the picture you posted doesn't really look like a brown recluse the pictures are kinda hard to see. It looks more like a wolf spider. Big question, is it hairy? BR's have very tiny hairs, they're almost naked. So if it's hairy then you're probably safe. Here's a pic of a wolf spider: The markings match the edited one pinkie posted. I have a feeling you're probably okay. To be safe you could always take it to an exterminator. But at the very least you should probably just kill it. It's the only way to be sure. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

07-09-2004, 12:04 PM	#29 (permalink)
-Ever- Junkie Location: San Francisco	Great, thanks for the info. And yeah it is hairy, however it seems to be skinnier and more wiry than a wolf spider. And the one I took a pic of is from about a year ago so I'll have to wait and see Thanks guys -T __________________ Embracing the goddess energy within yourselves will bring all of you to a new understanding and valuing of life. A vision that inspires you to live and love on planet Earth. Like a priceless jewel buried in dark layers of soil and stone, Earth radiates her brilliant beauty into the caverns of space and time. Perhaps you are aware of those who watch over your home And experience of this place to visit and play with reality. You are becoming aware of yourself as a gamemaster... --Acknowledge your weaknesses--

07-09-2004, 01:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Yeah the one in the picture I posted is a lot thicker than your picture, but it's the best pic I could find of the markings. Though wolf spiders tend to have varying body types, their markings are usually consistent. I don't know if some of them are just fatties or what. Then again your pic does show a resemblance to brown recluses, mainly in the mandibles and the stature of the body. So it could actually be a cross breed. Post more pics if you come across them. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

07-09-2004, 02:10 PM	#31 (permalink)
-Ever- Junkie Location: San Francisco	I'd be surprised if it was some kind of crossbreed seeing that I'm far from the Midwest, but your conclusions seem pretty correct. Here's the only other pic I took. __________________ Embracing the goddess energy within yourselves will bring all of you to a new understanding and valuing of life. A vision that inspires you to live and love on planet Earth. Like a priceless jewel buried in dark layers of soil and stone, Earth radiates her brilliant beauty into the caverns of space and time. Perhaps you are aware of those who watch over your home And experience of this place to visit and play with reality. You are becoming aware of yourself as a gamemaster... --Acknowledge your weaknesses--

07-17-2004, 09:36 PM	#32 (permalink)
mew Psycho Location: Canada	Im having the same problems with spiders. Im terrified of them as well. I believe that theyre the same type as well (Brown Recluses). And I have a nest of some sort of hornets. At first I thought they were black beetles, but upon closer (and scary) inspection, they were young hornets. I dont know where they come from, but they keep on comming. Anyways, I cant seem to kill them, so I have my cup and piece of paper handy. In the wintertime they get banned to the attic. Pathetic, but I just cant kill them. Oh, I also heard that house spiders breed well in moist housings, so if you have an old building that possibly has moisture in between the walls, your screwed.

07-18-2004, 02:17 PM	#33 (permalink)
whocarz Jarhead Location: Colorado	Time to call a Broken Arrow on your house. __________________ If there exists anything mightier than destiny, then it is the courage to face destiny unflinchingly. -Geibel Despise not death, but welcome it, for nature wills it like all else. -Marcus Aurelius Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever? -GySgt. Daniel J. "Dan" Daly

07-19-2004, 05:52 AM	#34 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	Just had to post what I learned about the wolf spider when I found one in my home. I realize you're not likely dealing with that but after seeing the pic of one it could be creapy to imagine that in your home. The nice thing about a wolf spider is that they drag their egg sack with them. If you find a wolf spider with no egg sack you can be sure there are no eggs around. If you find one with an egg sack you can eliminate the whole lot in one stomp. Those suckers are FAST though. They're a hunting spider and roam a lot. They don't usually stay in one place. They're vagrants and even carry their babies on their backs. They don't keep a home. They are mildly poisonous but only to a small child who might roll over on them. Mostly they'll run from humans though so bites from Wolf spiders are rare. They are quite large and look a little hairy though so seeing one unexpectedly in your home can definately give you nightmares though. They don't like company though so if you find one you can pretty much count that there isn't another one nearby. They're loners. They're usually only found in a home during the spring and fall months when it gets colder outside. They'll usually move on quite quickly too. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.