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st33lr4t 03-28-2004 09:34 AM

i dont see an issue. so what if you have different beliefs. it wasnt offensive, it was actually pretty funny. that will make them think twice before they knock on the next door.

they used to come to my house all the time when i was a kid. i
used to talk to them all the time. im not at all religeous but i was interested in what they had to say. but hey i was a kid...what did i know. then they just stopped coming. wonder what happened.

kittenpie 03-28-2004 10:43 AM

i do not understand this whole "saved" thing. what do i need to be saved from? i am a child of god...does god not love and accept me unconditionally? i believe that if i try really hard to behave myself and love others during my lifetime, that maybe there's something really swell waiting for me after death.

also...i am catholic. this really freaks out the jehovah's witnesses. i heard once that they believe catholics sacrifice babies on the altar at easter time. wtf?

charlesesl 03-29-2004 09:11 PM

I hate missionaries. Why can't I just mind my own bussiness and not be bother with the whole "listen to our bullshit or go to hell" stuff.

After living in Canada for all these years, I still havnt seen a infedil assign from that local mosqe trying to convert me to muslam.

PS: Muslem rocks.

iamtheone 03-30-2004 10:31 AM

keep em knocking

BigTruck1956 04-04-2004 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by meepa
I guess they were offering free books of Mormon, and my friend said, "Hey thanks, I needed more toilet paper" as he grabbed it from them. They just kind of stood their gape-jawed and he closed the door on them.

I am not endorsing nor condemning his actions, but rest assured, I know your inner-bastard is laughing it's ass off right now.

Haha that reminds me... A friend of mine was in a similar situation, except he took the book and said "my this would make excellent rolling paper" The missionaries were floored, and as i recall, didnt come back.

Nitrox 04-05-2004 10:24 AM

I had two Mormons show up at my door the other day. I own two Jack Russells who I usually lock up when someone is at the door as they make a god awful racket. This time I decided they should accompany me to the door. I opened the door and they started their spiel when my dogs went apeshit. Well, the screen door was shut and I turned and started having a conversation with the dogs, along the lines of "don't be mad, everyone is entitled to their beliefs", "no I don't think they look funny with short sleeve shirts and ties" and "no, you can't bite them". The whole time they're standing there looking at me in disbelief, when I stopped and turned back to them and told them that I wasn't allowed to talk to them anymore, because my dogs didn't like Mormons. I went on to tell them that I didn't have a problem with them, but by this time they were backing away from the door. In hindsight I should have let the dogs out of the door.

wakelagger 04-05-2004 07:16 PM

I live in the greater Toronto area, and I have yet to see a Jehovah's Witness or a Mormon come to my door. I know they're here (Theres a Kingdom Hall for Jehovah's Witnesses five minutes away), but its like they've given up trying to convert a predominantly atheist group, or devoted catholic/muslim/buddhist/christian minority groups which pretty much makes up all of the GTA.
Or, they don't like converting in the Canadian cold.

zaiaz 04-06-2004 11:35 AM

When the JW's knock at my door, I just politely tell them that I am Catholic and say thanks for stopping by but no thanks. I don't feel sorry for these guys, but they are only trying to help other people get to heaven (if you believe in heaven) Please remember that they are still people, who are just trying to practice what the they interpet from their bible.

Slims 04-09-2004 10:19 AM

After a recent incident where some Bible types unexpectedly showed up at my door while I was watering my plants naked, I have been receiving all kinds of notes and messages.

For instance, the other day we came home to find a note taped to the deck that said, in part: "Set aside time now, your long awaited Jesus video is in the mail and will be arriving shortly"

etc.

I don't like the idea of having people lurking around my property trying to convert me, so I stuck up a big no trespassing sign, and havn't had any trouble since.

hunnychile 04-10-2004 06:53 PM

the white shirts and blue trousers are the first warning sign...

frankx 04-11-2004 07:53 PM

The JW's had the extremely obnoxious habit of knocking on my door at 8am on Saturday, usually the only day I have to sleep late. After several instances of asking politely not to bother us anymore, and pointing to the "no solicitors" sign on my front door, my then girlfriend answered the door naked. Never saw them again. It doesn't have anything to do with having respect for their religion (I do), it has everything to do with simple common courtesy, and asking not to be disturbed by people who just cannot seem to take "leave me the hell alone" for an answer.

joshibahn 04-15-2004 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Prince
Selling Jesus or Jehova, I make little distinction between the two, is something I really detest.
uhhhhh click here, Prince....and here
here too

newmanator 04-15-2004 11:24 PM

I'm 25 and was a JW from birth until 16, when I made it clear to my mother that I wanted out, and subsequently got out. I'm still struggling to deprogram myself to this day, and the emotional, social and psychological tolls have been heavy.

I have no problem with the notion of others being unpleasant or aggressive with JW's because the religion ruined my family and other families in my congregation. It attracts the weak, the gullible and the underachievers, ultimately leaving most of them broken and disillusioned at best. It is very sad.

I've never been deliberately rude with a JW since leaving, but one did come to my door when I was in college and I invited her, an elderly lady, inside for discussion. My responses to her pitch left her stupified as she was evidently short-changed in analytical and critical thinking ability, presumably on account of genetics and lack of formal higher education, which I've found typical for most JW's. Predictably, she couldn't provide satisfactory answers to my simple questions as she'd apparently never considered what I had during the years leading up to my departure. She actually left before I wanted her to, and I kept talking with her as she walked out the door and up the stairs, out of the complex.

JW's, although primarily good-intentioned, do far more observable harm than good when they "spread the good news." Everlasting life on a paradise earth? Not if I have to spend it with these people.

qtpye4u84 04-15-2004 11:46 PM

I have a problem with them.
I am a push over!
They talk and they talk, then they give me there bible, a waste of 30-40 min. then they leave.
I tell them that I have my own religion and then they try to make my religion look the same as there's kinda.
I am a shy person so it's hard to say go away, I dont want to hurt there feelings.
I'm so happy when they leave!!!!!!!
I don't let them in my house, I make them talk to me threw the door way.

cartmen34 04-19-2004 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by newmanator
I'm 25 and was a JW from birth until 16, when I made it clear to my mother that I wanted out, and subsequently got out. I'm still struggling to deprogram myself to this day, and the emotional, social and psychological tolls have been heavy.

I have no problem with the notion of others being unpleasant or aggressive with JW's because the religion ruined my family and other families in my congregation. It attracts the weak, the gullible and the underachievers, ultimately leaving most of them broken and disillusioned at best. It is very sad.

JW's, although primarily good-intentioned, do far more observable harm than good when they "spread the good news." Everlasting life on a paradise earth? Not if I have to spend it with these people.

I know I've already commented on this one.....but the newmanator is right. I have the exact same situation as he/she does....born and raised as one, told my mom to stick it around 14, and have been trying to cope with the leftovers of my mind ever since. I've since turned to pure logic to try and make some sense of it all. (I'm now a computer programmer.) He also makes an excellent point that it ruins families. I am barely on speaking terms with my mother, and I have one brother who I have not spoken to or seen in 10 years.

And the newmanator is also right, it's a religion that prays on the weak minded, the under achievers, and those who tend to believe anything you tell them.

Get into a serious analitical, or philsophical discussion with almost any one of them and you'll see them fold like a cheap card table.

tiberry 04-20-2004 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by :::OshnSoul:::
One day a couple of young men jw's came to my home. I welcomed them in and they started to speak, but obviously feeling uncomfortable.
I let them casually and respectfully know that I am very spiritual, accepting all religions, but that I focus more on a Universal level. They were amazed and were very inquisitive about my spirituality. I asked them why they decided to be jw's, and they explained with utmost genuinity and love. The way they described it was actually beautiful, a side I never heard before regarding their beliefs. yet they steered back to me and asked me more questions. I felt really good and they really enjoyed what I had to say and they didn't bother preaching to me at all. They just smiled and repeatedly thanked me for being such a beautiful, nice, and spiritual person and they left. It was pleasant and I am glad to have had that experience. Not all religious people are thumpers.


Why doesn't your response (and theirs) surprise me! :)

thingstodo 04-21-2004 03:14 AM

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Originally posted by cartmen34


While I don't see the point in being outright mean to them, I also think that they are opening the "can-o-worms" themselves by choosing to talk to strangers. They are just uninvited door to door salesmen as far as I'm concerned. They assume you NEED their product, so they are going to try everything to "sell" it to you. Don't give them an inch if you don't want to spend an hour chatting.


The thing I dislike the most is the pushy-ness of religious people to try to force their beliefs on me. And I dislike the door-to-door stuff, interupting me in my home, my refuge from the world and the only place I have some semblance of control!

pig 04-24-2004 02:50 PM

My policy is just to have a quick "not interested" and politely close the door on 'em. Otherwise they either waste my time and/or leave feeling more justified in their mission to spread the word and all that business. Even if you toy with them or freak them out, and they leave you alone, they're probably going to go bug the next person with more vigor, convinced that the heathans are growing and all that. I sometimes think if everyone just ignored them, they'd go away.

HamiC 04-29-2004 06:38 PM

In my experience, the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons that have knocked on my door are good decent people with good intentions. They have been respectful of my beliefs (not into organized religion) and respectful of my boundaries (let's stop the discussion if it gets uncomfortable for either of us).

I would suggest treating them the way you would want to be treated. If you are not interested in discussing religion with them, simply tell them. They will surely go away. Toying with, or disrespecting, them is not terribly productive and frankly, not the right way to handle things.

assilem 04-30-2004 09:15 AM

When I was in high school I used to live in a house with my parents that was built in such a way that I could see who was walking to my front door from just about any room. So when I would see the JW's walking up I would take all my clothes off except for my socks, shoes, and a ball cap and answer the door. It would usually take less than a second for them to turn and walk away. Not one word. My mom would get pissed but my dad would laugh his ass off.

Polyphobic 04-30-2004 09:27 AM

I have a no solicitors sign on my front door. Why then do they keep insisting on coming to my house? Each time I point at the sign they respond that they are not solicitors. My opinion is that they are soliciting religion and they we get in an argument. I find JW and mormons to be intensely annoying. I still try to be polite but it is getting harder and harder to do so. Maybe I should print up a No Religion Peddlers sign to go with my No Solicitors sign?

assilem 04-30-2004 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Polyphobic
Maybe I should print up a No Religion Peddlers sign to go with my No Solicitors sign?
I like that idea Polyphobic. I'm too old now to get away with the nudity thing. I would probably be arested nowadays.

guinnessgurl 05-17-2004 11:29 PM

Wow, after reading all of these posts, I feel like I have so much to reply to. But let me just say one thing...I too grew up in this religion but left when i was 17 (which was not that long ago if any of you have figured out - i'm only 18 now, turning 19 soon). yes, i am still dealing with the repercussions of the decision i made, but i feel it was for the best. the one thing i would like to say though is that from having grown up as a JW, i know that we are taught to just simply walk away if someone states outright that they are not interested and do not want to talk. yes, there are some JW's out there who are pushy and don't listen when you say that, and i cannot speak for them, but the majority will be respectful of your wishes and will leave you alone. so its really not necessary to be outright rude to them or to play some joke on them like showing up naked to the door....show respect and they will too....

PhatnS2pid 05-18-2004 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by iccky
My girlfriend is a Witness, so I may be biased, but I really think you shouldn't fuck with people like that.

They're just people like everyone else, and deserve to be treated with respect like normal human beings. If you don't want to talk to them, then just ask them to leave. They probably will. If you genuinely want to talk about religion or the bible, then talk to them. Most of them are actually extremely knowledgeable about the bible, though I will admit they have some wacky interpretations of it. But treating them like shit so you can then later go and chuckle with your friends about it is not cool.

Look at it this way. From their perspective they are trying to give you eternal life in paradise. And it’s not as if they get brownie points for converting more people. If they try really hard it’s because they really care. So whether or not you agree with them, at least appreciate the effort.

They're also getting up in people's business. If they had booths asking people to be saved or even ads or whatever, I wouldn't care. Going door-to-door and harassing people because you believe they're heathens is pretty fucking rude in my opinion. You don't see me going door-to-door telling people to recycle and stop littering, even though it would be a hell of a more useful thing to preach to them. You bring it upon yourself when you bother people in their own home.

maleficent 05-18-2004 05:56 AM

In my experience, born again christians are much much worse, cause they'll get you in places you can't escape them. I had one on an overcrowded late night flight, with no place to move to, pretending I didn't speak english didnt even help. This woman NEVER SHUT UP the entire time about how I needed to be saved, and how I had to accept... Oh whatever lady - I'm going to hell, Sister Mary What's her name told me so in 3rd grade, and I'm OK with it.

With JW and other Christians who feel the need to convert others, why? Do they get a finders fee on souls they bring in? Religion, or lack there of, is a personal choice, why's it anyone's business but the person.


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