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almostaugust · 09-09-2003, 06:23 AM

Anyone do steroids on this board, im curious. Im sure a few of the guys at my gym are doing them. It seems people care more about the look these days than anything else, its so cosmetic. What are your thoughts.

cowlick · 09-09-2003, 06:56 AM

I don't do any, but I have a few friends who've done them for many years. Also, I know from spending time in the weight room at my gym, most guys who are really ripped are on ephedra.

axolotls · 09-09-2003, 08:28 AM

ephedra is just a stimulant. combine it with caffeine (coffee, cola, and the omnipresent guarana berry) and you can work out for days.

however, the downside is overworking your muscles into injury.

Sun Tzu · 09-09-2003, 09:27 AM

Ive done them in the past. When I reach my late 30s I will probaably do 2 therapeutic cycles a year of deca. Ofcourse under the guidance of a doctor to make sure make labwork is good to go. Having access to to having my labwork done is the main reason I did it illegally in the past. To do so blindly is taking a large risk. I dont have any regrets, and adverse side effects (pattern balding, gynecomastia, prostate problems). I will comment that its not hard to develop a psychological addiction is caution is not observed.

Plan9Senior · 09-09-2003, 09:48 AM

Ephedra + caffeine is nothing but a fat burner, which is why they look ripped. It takes a toll on your heart, so I wouldn't recommend it. As far as steroids are concerned, I work too hard on my body and health to go and screw it all up with a cycle of roids just so I can gain some extra size. Considering all the things that steroids affect...I like my liver, my heart, my skin, my hair, my penis, my stomach, and my mind way too much to be screwing around with Deca or any other cycle

rodgerd · 09-10-2003, 12:40 AM

I evaluate stuff like this on a risk:reward basis. If I was a high-level competitive bodybuilder where steroids and HGH could make the difference between winning and losing, it might be worth the downsides on my health over the long term.

But I'm not. I'm Joe Shmoe. Like most people, I'm nowhere near the physical peak I could obtain purely through hard work and decent nutrition. And at age 30, I'll never be at the top of any competitive sport unless I take up something not especially physically demanding like lawn bowls or golf.

Basically, it would be a dumb thing for me to do. I'd risk my health for what? A reward (getting stronger/looking better) I can obtain just by going to the gym, which I'd have to do for the drugs to work, anyway.

Sleepyjack · 09-10-2003, 01:20 AM

I mainly work out for fun, health benefits and so on, so i've enver considered anything drastic like this. I am also a little uptight about putting unnatural substances (mainly drugs etc) into my system.

I am already in pretty good shape as it is and don't want to get bigger or more much more muscular etc. Those body builders with basically no fat kinda make me sick to look at.

lions20 · 09-10-2003, 09:02 AM

Do not mess around with them, do it naturally. You will see once those people get off the roids they will get small again.

Lunchbox7 · 09-11-2003, 08:18 AM

Roids only give 5% bonus. Not much advantage when considering the cost. Think about the benefits vs the cost. Most guys do weights to look sexy so they can get the chicks. They take roids to help. The roids make their dicks shrink and seriously decreases performance. The girl doesnt want to stay with you because your a dud in bed. To me the cost is too great

Plan9Senior · 09-11-2003, 10:59 AM

Well, the advatage to them and what makes them appealing to bodybuilders is that taking them is the only way that you can lose bodyfat (cut) while also building muscle at the same time. Naturually, you have to choose either or. Like you said though, the negatives far outway the positives when taking steroids.

axolotls · 09-11-2003, 12:19 PM

I read roid forums from time to time. It's pretty funny to see the answer to similar OPs.

The suggestion that follows is always, "Make sure you cop some Clomid [for those who know, it is usually given to women for fertility purposes] to 'wake up your balls'"

I guess, that roids shut downs your natural testostorone production and after you shoot up you need to get your balls back in function.

That's a good enough disincentive for anyone...

!!!!

ronan · 09-12-2003, 11:07 AM

who cares if your natural testosterone levels shutoff and ur balls shrink, if your running 600+mgs of test a week thats all you need, roids dont shrink your cock all a load of crap and who evers saying they give a 5% increase is a damn fool obvisouly never been on a cycle in there lives.

stldickie · 09-12-2003, 02:09 PM

I'll stay a little smaller in muscle mass in order to maintain my size in my pants

Plan9Senior · 09-12-2003, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronan
who cares if your natural testosterone levels shutoff and ur balls shrink, if your running 600+mgs of test a week thats all you need, roids dont shrink your cock all a load of crap and who evers saying they give a 5% increase is a damn fool obvisouly never been on a cycle in there lives.

Let me direct you to the steroid forums over at bodybuilding.com ---> http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumd...s=&forumid=17, and you can get a quick lesson as to the many many many problems/side effects these drugs cause the users. You are obviously misinformed or have been lucky with your one cycle that you experimented with. Knowledge is your friend sir

ronan · 09-12-2003, 08:44 PM

sorry you obviously have been misinformed, in fact alot of these peaple posting on this thread have been, its people like you with there bs that keep anabolic steroids illegal in most states and people look down apon them and beleiving all these crazy side effects, there are side effects like any drug but not to the extent that you people are making them out to be.

axolotls · 09-13-2003, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronan
sorry you obviously have been misinformed, in fact alot of these peaple posting on this thread have been, its people like you with there bs that keep anabolic steroids illegal in most states and people look down apon them and beleiving all these crazy side effects, there are side effects like any drug but not to the extent that you people are making them out to be.

I am all ears. What is the misinformation?

Plan9Senior · 09-13-2003, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronan
sorry you obviously have been misinformed, in fact alot of these peaple posting on this thread have been, its people like you with there bs that keep anabolic steroids illegal in most states and people look down apon them and beleiving all these crazy side effects, there are side effects like any drug but not to the extent that you people are making them out to be.

I am so ready to hear your informational backed reply

Sun Tzu · 09-13-2003, 12:22 PM

The bottom line is everyone is built genetically different so it can sometimes be a difficult task to truly know what the outcome is going to be. I did numerous cycles and the only adverse effects I had was an intermittent agressive nature and a sex drive that couldnt be satisfied. My gains far exceeded 5%. I was lifting weight amounts that frankly started to spook me a little.

I know someone else the got gyneco on their first cycle. Due to the fact that estrogen is needed to act as receptor site for testosterone this guy didnt want his estrogen lowered, and he paid the price.

Its the same deal with supplements some will work great on one person and not on another. To juice or not to juice gets into the rationale of the person. WHy does anyone lift? To be healthy? There are other ways to get healthy than tearing down muscle fibers. For performance? Nothing push-ups, dips, pull-ups, and sit-ups with a ruinning program wont do. For looks? Well now were getting into the terrority.

If anything is abused it leads to problems. Im just wondering what the mindset is about the final outcome. Is it the fear of dying 10 years to early? The misconception that package is going to shrink (which is not physically possible-except in cold water temporarily)

I would have to say the biggest fear a guy should have about them is the risk they take to get psychologicaly addicted. Make no mistake when a mnan is on testosterone his entrie outlook changes of the course of the cycle. By the third week he's feeling great. Physically; like never before, mentally; confidence to accomplish anything.

I not defending them in a way it may sound to some. Males shouldnt even consider then before 19. They have such a degree of GH and test already going its foolish to upset the natural building blocks. When a man reaches his late 30s to early 40s he experiences something similiar to a female menopause. Its called andropause. WHy not supplement with it.

As a matter of fact why take any supplements? Creatine (thats temporary), precursors, HMB, so on and so on.

Truly all a person need is a healthy diet right? I never understood why someone would take a shitload of supplements and call it natural. Its acutally more expensive to use supplements than to cycle. (THis ofcourse can vary though)

However if were talking deterence because of legal issues; thats entirely different. Nothing is worth going to jail for. I think its absurd they are classed the way they are though.

09-09-2003, 06:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	Roids Boys Anyone do steroids on this board, im curious. Im sure a few of the guys at my gym are doing them. It seems people care more about the look these days than anything else, its so cosmetic. What are your thoughts.

09-09-2003, 06:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
cowlick Insane Location: Seattle	I don't do any, but I have a few friends who've done them for many years. Also, I know from spending time in the weight room at my gym, most guys who are really ripped are on ephedra. __________________ "It's a long story," says I, and let him up.

09-09-2003, 09:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sun Tzu Conspiracy Realist Location: The Event Horizon	Ive done them in the past. When I reach my late 30s I will probaably do 2 therapeutic cycles a year of deca. Ofcourse under the guidance of a doctor to make sure make labwork is good to go. Having access to to having my labwork done is the main reason I did it illegally in the past. To do so blindly is taking a large risk. I dont have any regrets, and adverse side effects (pattern balding, gynecomastia, prostate problems). I will comment that its not hard to develop a psychological addiction is caution is not observed. __________________ *To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking*

09-12-2003, 11:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
ronan Crazy Location: Australia	who cares if your natural testosterone levels shutoff and ur balls shrink, if your running 600+mgs of test a week thats all you need, roids dont shrink your cock all a load of crap and who evers saying they give a 5% increase is a damn fool obvisouly never been on a cycle in there lives. __________________ i am enlightened

09-12-2003, 08:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
ronan Crazy Location: Australia	sorry you obviously have been misinformed, in fact alot of these peaple posting on this thread have been, its people like you with there bs that keep anabolic steroids illegal in most states and people look down apon them and beleiving all these crazy side effects, there are side effects like any drug but not to the extent that you people are making them out to be. __________________ i am enlightened

09-09-2003, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
axolotls Tilted	ephedra is just a stimulant. combine it with caffeine (coffee, cola, and the omnipresent guarana berry) and you can work out for days. however, the downside is overworking your muscles into injury.

09-09-2003, 09:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Plan9Senior Banned Location: Orange County, California	Ephedra + caffeine is nothing but a fat burner, which is why they look ripped. It takes a toll on your heart, so I wouldn't recommend it. As far as steroids are concerned, I work too hard on my body and health to go and screw it all up with a cycle of roids just so I can gain some extra size. Considering all the things that steroids affect...I like my liver, my heart, my skin, my hair, my penis, my stomach, and my mind way too much to be screwing around with Deca or any other cycle

09-10-2003, 12:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
rodgerd Psycho Location: Wellington, New Zealand	I evaluate stuff like this on a risk:reward basis. If I was a high-level competitive bodybuilder where steroids and HGH could make the difference between winning and losing, it might be worth the downsides on my health over the long term. But I'm not. I'm Joe Shmoe. Like most people, I'm nowhere near the physical peak I could obtain purely through hard work and decent nutrition. And at age 30, I'll never be at the top of any competitive sport unless I take up something not especially physically demanding like lawn bowls or golf. Basically, it would be a dumb thing for me to do. I'd risk my health for what? A reward (getting stronger/looking better) I can obtain just by going to the gym, which I'd have to do for the drugs to work, anyway.

09-10-2003, 01:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	I mainly work out for fun, health benefits and so on, so i've enver considered anything drastic like this. I am also a little uptight about putting unnatural substances (mainly drugs etc) into my system. I am already in pretty good shape as it is and don't want to get bigger or more much more muscular etc. Those body builders with basically no fat kinda make me sick to look at.

09-10-2003, 09:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
lions20 Insane	Do not mess around with them, do it naturally. You will see once those people get off the roids they will get small again.

09-11-2003, 08:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lunchbox7 Addict	Roids only give 5% bonus. Not much advantage when considering the cost. Think about the benefits vs the cost. Most guys do weights to look sexy so they can get the chicks. They take roids to help. The roids make their dicks shrink and seriously decreases performance. The girl doesnt want to stay with you because your a dud in bed. To me the cost is too great

09-11-2003, 10:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Plan9Senior Banned Location: Orange County, California	Well, the advatage to them and what makes them appealing to bodybuilders is that taking them is the only way that you can lose bodyfat (cut) while also building muscle at the same time. Naturually, you have to choose either or. Like you said though, the negatives far outway the positives when taking steroids.

09-11-2003, 12:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
axolotls Tilted	I read roid forums from time to time. It's pretty funny to see the answer to similar OPs. The suggestion that follows is always, "Make sure you cop some Clomid [for those who know, it is usually given to women for fertility purposes] to 'wake up your balls'" I guess, that roids shut downs your natural testostorone production and after you shoot up you need to get your balls back in function. That's a good enough disincentive for anyone... !!!!

09-12-2003, 02:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
stldickie Addict	I'll stay a little smaller in muscle mass in order to maintain my size in my pants

09-13-2003, 12:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
Sun Tzu Conspiracy Realist Location: The Event Horizon	The bottom line is everyone is built genetically different so it can sometimes be a difficult task to truly know what the outcome is going to be. I did numerous cycles and the only adverse effects I had was an intermittent agressive nature and a sex drive that couldnt be satisfied. My gains far exceeded 5%. I was lifting weight amounts that frankly started to spook me a little. I know someone else the got gyneco on their first cycle. Due to the fact that estrogen is needed to act as receptor site for testosterone this guy didnt want his estrogen lowered, and he paid the price. Its the same deal with supplements some will work great on one person and not on another. To juice or not to juice gets into the rationale of the person. WHy does anyone lift? To be healthy? There are other ways to get healthy than tearing down muscle fibers. For performance? Nothing push-ups, dips, pull-ups, and sit-ups with a ruinning program wont do. For looks? Well now were getting into the terrority. If anything is abused it leads to problems. Im just wondering what the mindset is about the final outcome. Is it the fear of dying 10 years to early? The misconception that package is going to shrink (which is not physically possible-except in cold water temporarily) I would have to say the biggest fear a guy should have about them is the risk they take to get psychologicaly addicted. Make no mistake when a mnan is on testosterone his entrie outlook changes of the course of the cycle. By the third week he's feeling great. Physically; like never before, mentally; confidence to accomplish anything. I not defending them in a way it may sound to some. Males shouldnt even consider then before 19. They have such a degree of GH and test already going its foolish to upset the natural building blocks. When a man reaches his late 30s to early 40s he experiences something similiar to a female menopause. Its called andropause. WHy not supplement with it. As a matter of fact why take any supplements? Creatine (thats temporary), precursors, HMB, so on and so on. Truly all a person need is a healthy diet right? I never understood why someone would take a shitload of supplements and call it natural. Its acutally more expensive to use supplements than to cycle. (THis ofcourse can vary though) However if were talking deterence because of legal issues; thats entirely different. Nothing is worth going to jail for. I think its absurd they are classed the way they are though. __________________ *To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking* Last edited by Sun Tzu; 09-15-2003 at 03:59 PM..