This is awkward... my girlfriend won't flush the toilet.
 

(I think this goes in Tilted Life rather than sexuality. It's a sexual relationship, but not about sexual matters.)

I feel like a total weirdo posting this.

My girlfriend of almost two years and I are looking at apartments, planning to move in soon, in the next few months. I live in a small apartment, she lives with her parents.

She doesn't flush the toilet after she pees (just pees).

If she stays at my apartment, I'll go to the bathroom in the morning, and find the toilet yellow with a wad of toilet paper in it, for example. Nine times out of ten, if she's gone to the bathroom at some point before me, I'll walk in to find a wad of toilet paper in the toilet.

This happens at her parents' house too - I'll walk in and it isn't flushed. It's doubly awkward because I don't know if it's just her or her whole family is in on this habit. If it's the whole family, that's weird. And if it's just her, then she clearly has no issue with her father and brother seeing her urine in the toilet. Maybe I'm a prude, but that'd be humiliating for me.

(I can rule out inefficient flushing mechanisms and I've never, ever been faced with this until I met her.)

I'm going to be honest with you, TFP: I'm no prude, I understand bodily processes, but this just grosses me out.

I've asked her (awkwardly) once before why she doesn't flush the toilet and she went red and told me it was because the water pipes were loud in her childhood home and woke up the whole house. That's fine, but that was many years and two houses ago. I asked her if it was a water saving or environmentally conscious thing ('if it's yellow, let it mellow'), and she said it was just the noisy water pipes. But clearly that's habit now, rather than reality.

How do I address this? I can't really claim it's unsanitary (it's a toilet after all). I don't want to nag her or bring up toilet habits with a grown woman.

I don't want to sound like a prude.

But I just don't feel like this should be happening with an adult woman.

Any advice on how I can approach this again?

My husband grew up in a "yellow let it mellow" household where males outnumbered females 6:1. He nearly always leaves the toilet seat up, has no problem peeing on top of anyone's urine, and invariably forgets to close the door when he's peeing. I'm pretty sure he also wouldn't have any problems peeing at the same time as any of his siblings, but I haven't witnessed that one...

I lived with his family for 6 months after we married, and was horrified at the process at first. Then I started to see the genius behind adapting their habits to deal with their big family. Things that I would normally consider private are public and open... While I understand their methods, I wasn't about to adopt them. I simply developed habits to work around my discomfort.

I've explained the bathroom etiquette in my home growing up, detailing how we differ. He understands and tries to change. Reality is: He won't change. His habits are not necessarily wrong (nor are mine). They are simply different. He does his best to remember to close the door, to put the seat down, to flush... but honestly his habits are ingrained. He remembers when we have company, and that's all I can really hope for. I do my best to make a joke out of these things, I've gotten beyond the frustration.

You can, too.
If this is a deal-breaker, she must not be a fantastic woman.

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I have a live and let live attitude towards little idiosyncrasies like this. If it were me, I would just flush toilet (if I felt I needed to) and move on without giving it a second thought.

If if bothers you, voice it clearly. Don't assume she knows it's a big deal for you. Talk it out and see if one of you is willing to change their habits. Either you must be willing to let it fly, or she must be willing to break her habit.

Absolutely.

Life is ridiculous enough as it is, paring yourself up with another and exposing yourself to their infinitely interesting yet annoyingly meaningless little gestures doesn't make it any easier. It's only natural to be annoyed but if you can navigate these things with a certain level of amusement you can come to find their annoying little freakouts as incredibly endearing.

Anon, just let it mellow. Those idiosyncrasies are always a large part of what I've come to miss the most after a breakup and that ultimately makes obvious to me one of my own idiosyncratic gestures that I'd have never been able to see were it not for another.

Naturally it'll piss you off but just go with the flow.

You need to install a dual flush toilet. Usually it's still one handle or button with a smaller one inside that you can push or flip. The main one is for number 2 and the little one, for number 1, adds a little water to make the "yellow" disappear.

They have had them in Asia for years and years and are now making an appearance here.

It only makes a litte noise when adding some water and not the large, household waking, gallons of water wasting noise from regular flushing.

Other than that, relax...it's not like she's leaving a "coiler" for you to admire every morning...haha. No, seriously, it's not a big deal.

So far the advice is for Anon to make the adjustment, compromise or go with the flow (pardon the pun). If it's a serious relationship --and it sounds like it is--then both need to work out some sort of solution. If she moves in with him, then her original reason for not flushing after a pee is no longer valid, so she will have to work on remembering to flush the toilet after going to the bathroom for any bodily movement. And to make it cool and not seem as though you're nitpicking, ask her if there's anything (other than the flushing issue) about you that kind of peeves her, and make an honest effort to amend it. Being passive/aggressive about it is only going to make the resentment percolate -- clear the air now.

if it your house and your rules, i seriously dont see why you cant tell her to flush the toilet.

id seriously contemplate putting a sign up if all else fails

So if people keep peeing in the toilet and not flushing, at one point does someone decide it needs to be flushed? When it's full?
She's lazy. Tell her to flush the damn toilet.

you might want to seriously reconsider this relationship...

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I think I have to side with the "let it go" school of thought. As long as she's not leaving floaters, or used tampons in there for you to find, but keeps it to pee...just let it go. But anything solid, you've got a case for getting up in her face about changing her habits.

That's my thought.

Does anything you do or don't, that you know of, annoy her? You could offer to trade quirks in the interest of amity.
If you want to remain with her without resentment, get over it.

I grew up in a fairly large family on a farm that was not hooked up to city sewer lines. We had a septic tank which had a limited capacity, especially in the winter. We had to be careful about how much liquid went into the septic system.:paranoid: This could also be about conservation of water.
The convention at our house was "If it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down." Dad even posted little signs to that effect. We also learned as kids to brush our teeth with about eight ounces of water in a cup, instead of running five gallons down the lavatory drain.
Not necessarily lazy at all, especially if it is a conscious decision. Anyone not mentally lazy should be able to get past the initial "yuck factor" which is all this is, really, and understand that. There is nothing unsanitary or dangerous about a few ounces of pee left in the toilet bowl for a few hours. If you want to do something easy that's "green" this is a no-brainer. Huge amounts of treated water are wasted to further dilute small amounts of pee.
People grow up in varied family cultures. Think of this as a little bit of free "diversity training.":)

Lindy

"Meet the Fockers" vote here.

Flushing pee wastes half a gallon of water. That's like 180 gallons worth of money flushed down the toilet per month - literally.

Just what the fuck are you trying to do Manic?

And BTW, Anon, whoever you are, I LOVE you for this ... As for the OP, OMG That has to be THE most unpleasant experience. My advice would be to retrain her and ensure that it sticks by use of a cattle prod. But that's just me though.

Here's my issue with urine in the bowl that isn't mine:

When I poop, there's some splashback on my nether regions. I don't want someone else's urine up in thar.

Seriously? This is an issue?

Imagine taking a leak in the yard and then dumping gallons of water on it just to make it go away. Seems like a phenomenal waste of water. I suppose if you're content flushing away dollars and gallons of freshwater for a little urea, that's your own game. But 'if it's yellow, let it mellow' is pretty standard fare around these parts. Not very 'Merican I guess. Even flushing every second pee as a conscious decision is more responsible than this pathological fear or essentially purified water; especially if it comes from the same vagina you'll gladly rub your sensitive bits allll over.

Jinn, I'm glad to see your post--your reaction was much the same as mine.

What's more, going off of Manic's post, I think it's a worthwhile exercise to stop trying to 'correct' the annoying little habits of the people we live with and just live with them. Providing they are harmless idiosyncrasies, of course. Aren't relationships difficult enough?

exactly, that's the secret to most relationships.

Two ideas:

o Put a sign on the inside of the bathroom door.
o I don't think they're as popular anymore, but there are those 'cleaning' products that turn the water blue, or whatnot. Maybe one of those in the tank will help with the color and the smell.

When I was younger and trying to make a go with a band we all moved into an old hunting cabin for the winter. Sure it had its advantages, it was free and we could practice as long and loud as we wanted but it had no heat, no running water...and a besides and old outhouse in the woods that was falling over we had to deal with a composting toilet. It had a crank on the back that you had to turn every time you used it and I think it was supposed to be emptied every month or so, we were lazy musicians and nobody did either. Needless to say by the end of that winter it had, for lack of a better term, began to mound.

A little bit of piss left behind in a clean, white porcelain toilet by my gf will never EVER bother me after that.

Anyway the cliched advice in any relationship is to compromise, if this really bothers you have a talk about it and find out who is more put out by her not flushing. You for having to look at it or her for having to flush and try to work out something that suits the two of you best. Personally I agree with others here, its such a small issue I'd just flush it myself (if it bothered me) and forget about it. It sounds like she was a little put out by you bringing it up so why bother antagonizing her over it unless it REALLY troubles you? There are so many problems you have to face in any relationship, in my opinion sometimes you just have to shrug off the little things and accept them if you ever want to be happy.

So true! Anon, if the worst thing your gal does is not flush her pee, count your blessings.

my trick to counter the splashback?

Put some toilet paper in the water before you pass motion.

Tada! no more splashback!

Me too. Admittedly, this is more than I wanted you guys to know about me.

There's at least 10 million things in a relationship that might annoy you and 2-3 that you really have any chance of changing. I'm not sure this is where I'd make a stand.

I might use it as a tradeoff when she brings up one of your annoying habits; but honestly, I'd just flush and move on

Find someplace with two bathrooms. That is what I would do.

Or install one of these: Wholesale waterfree urinal,toilet urinal,energy saving urinal

(and yes girls can use them)

growing up we didn't have access to city water/sewer. we had well water, so it was a matter of conserving water. toilet paper went in a small lined trash can. even after my age now and having city water/sewer access i still do this. so does everyone else in the house. the only thing i ask of the s/o is that if he "misses" or dribbles .... clean it up or i will rip him a new one.

flushing is mandatory on everything else. however, no tampons in there, that's what the lined trash can is for. i have no desire to have my landlord come complaining at me that the lines going out were clogged by them. that's just a embarrassment waiting to happen for me.

everyone has their reasons, quirks, oddities, etc ... find out why she does, then try to work it through. don't leave it unanswered and causing you to be raging on the inside that you explode

How good are you with ?

I am amazed you didnt just ask her to flush the toilet. What do you guys talk about in regard to your relationship? Have you talked about your relationship? Have you worked out details? Or is this a move based solely on emotion and a wing and a prayer?

Sit down and go over this and a hundred other things so you both are on the same page...

relationships take more communication than they do sex....remember that...

tell her it grosses you out... hint it a few times more if you need to but don't go too into it. past that, just flush prior to peeing and flush again when you are done. if she hears it, she might get the point....


my family doesn't flush during the night as not to wake anyone up... however I found that really gross. When I wake up before them, I'm certain to flush right as I enter, before closing the door.. then proceed to go and flush again in hopes that perhaps someday that noisy double flushing will make a point.

I have little boys - who love to have 'wee fights'. Our house has a pretty open door policy, except when we have visitors so this happens quite a bit. The boy's mother rolls her eyes but hasn't told us to stop it :)

I think you should just talk to her about this.....I wouldn't think this would be a deal breaker. If this is her worst bad habit then your lucky. Most people deal with far worse on a daily basis.

Personally I tend to always flush when my bf is around, if he is at work I tend to be more lax and wait a couple times before I do......Sometimes he forgets to flush and its no biggie to me, just as long as he doesn't leave any floaters for me to find.....lol......that might force me to leave one for him to find as payback....haha

it saves water, it's ok, talk to her about it and see why she does it. maybe it's all about conserving water. I mean I personally don't do it, my water is on my landlords ticket.

now, I work with a Mexican dude who wipes his ass and puts the shitty TP in the TRASH CAN !!! cause in Mexico, apparently they don't have enough water pressure to suck down the wads of poopy TP. nobody wants to have the talk with him about TP in the U.S.

You people simply do not listen, do you?

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It works.

What I did:

When you discover the unflushed mess, yell loudly across the apartment, "Hey are you done with this?" or "Are you saving this for something?"

Eventually my girlfriend started flushing. Something about "the neighbors can hear you..."

Does she wash her hands or skip that too?

Speaking from the male side of this: Seriously? My penis is probably the cleanest thing in the bathroom. Also she puts it in. her. mouth. I don't think my touching it now and again is going to kill me.

I don't see anything wrong with putting shitty tp in the trash can....We have a septic tank and we put all tp in the trash can out of necessity. If you have ever had a septic tank back up, then you will know what I am talking about. Tp is biodegradable but that doesn't happen overnight...
Now if you live in the city then you are connected to the city sewer, so you have nothing to worry about, but in the country we have septic tanks & you NEVER want one to back up on you.... :eek:

having a septic tank back up on you is much much worse than having someone leave a log or pee in the toilet. what it means is that someones going to have to go and get it unblocked. ive been to countries where ive had to put toilet paper in bins instead of down the toilet. its not something i like doing, but id hate to be the one to block the damn thing and have to be the one to unclog it.

..and no you cant unclog it with a plunger.

i wonder how anonymous went with his GF

I'm pretty sure toilets weren't meant to be flushed once they start filling up. Point being, if my boyfriend's 6 year old son can learn to flush after each use, then I'm certain your girlfriend can too. There's a fine line between habitually forgetting and plain laziness. Ew!

First post. Yay me! lol Nice to meet you all. :-)

Totally agree with you Ellie, and nice to meet you too. Welcome to TFP.

If you're a guy, there is no reason for you to urinate in a toilet whatsoever. Just piss in Gatorade bottles and pour them down the kitchen drain. For extra points, wash and reuse the Gatorade bottle for water at the gym. Or just drink your own urine like Bear Grylls and save on that tofu 'n sprouts soap.

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My initial thought? Wow, you mofos are nasty.

Maybe it's wasteful, but I also change my underwear and socks every day. Something about "letting it mellow" just seems like white trash deluxe. Disgusting. If you're living with me or a guest at my place, you better flush the goddamn toilet. If so you're environmentally friendly that it kills you to waste water, consider other aspects of your life that are wasteful, too. And keep your bleeding heart and urine-hoarding urges out of my bathrooms.

Come over to my place after eating a plate of asparagus and leave that radioactive piss in my toilet? You best check yourself.

I didn't bother to read the other responses, gettin ready to go to bed, so I just wanted to let you know that a lot of women do this, and I think it's pretty common. Not only does my current babies mama of 10 years do this exact thing, and only after she pees, I have had several girlfriends of past that were the same way. Not all of them, by far, but maybe 1/4 of them. I have never really even gave it a second thought, it never bothered me. If she starts droppin bombs in there and leavin those for you to find... that would probably gross me out... but I have had many girls pee on me, so seeing pee in the toilet doesn't irk me.

not sure about the states, but in australia, the bathroom and laundry water water is considered 'grey water' and is separate to kitchen water. so it wouldnt be wise to do flush down urine in the kitchen sink in oz. i guess it gets treated differently at the plant. im assuming it has something to do with the phosphrous in the detergents.

I'm being a jerkoff, Dlish. Where I'm staying at right now is mostly gray water. Potable water comes out of bottles.

Thanks Grancey!

Once I find that intro thread, I'll do a proper introduction. But I couldn't resist not replying to this thread lol.
ditto.

You see "white trash deluxe", I see dirty hippie. Makes me want to get some old-school Chicago cops to put on their baby blue riot helmets and teach basic hygene.

Then I can't be bothered to read past this.

Here ya go!

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Hopefully you don't think that I'm a complete douche. Only partial.

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Our nephew visited for several nights this week. He's 10. Our kids take showers in the bathroom he used as well. Every night I went in there, the toilet seat was up and the water was yellow. I plan to have a discussion with his dad.

I suppose that I kind-of, sort-of get it with the "let it mellow" mentality if the toilet in question is in a desert. But barring that, learn to flush.

Sometimes I love you so much it hurts to breathe.

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yep.
because good things only come from total sea change.


insane.

the author of that article is an idiot. just another boring reactionary without much insight.





my and my roommate let it mellow
because who cares it's just piss.
better than flushing the toilet 6 times a day.
maybe fresh dark morning piss, sure, but like, taking a leak at lunch who cares. if you drink enough beer throughout the day it doesn't matter.

if there were girls coming around i'd flush

Why? Because they'd think it's gross? Ha. How many condoms do you let float in the toilet before you flush it, Tyler?

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Also: Any TFPers that posted as non-flushers will be forced to piss on the grass outside when they visit my place. Ya know, to save water.

I do believe that in the previous generations there was a lot of emphasis on conservation at times, and children were raised to not flush if the toilet has ONLY been peed in ONCE. I know my mother was raised that way, though she didn't raise us that way when I would go to my gma's as a kid she would tell us to do the samething, I'm sure others did have this passed on. I think sometimes when my babies mama does it, it might be because it's the middle of the night and she doesn't want to make noise in the bathroom which is right off the master bedroom, but she does it during the day also, so I'm not certain the reason, lol, I have never really had an issue with it

Wait, are piss-filled toilets part of what Jerry Springer refers to as "baby mama drama?"

Man, I'm so out of the loop these days.

Those of you that prefer the non-flushing lifestyle - When you use a public restroom do you flush? All this time I thought that the toilets were malfunctioning. I had no idea that so many people did not flush. Damn.

Hey, I may leave a little lemon yellow in the toilet from time to time, but at least I don't watch Jerry Springer!:rolleyes:

Lindy

yeah basically. clean up when girls are around. flush your piss, throw out your jizz rags

not because it's gross or unclean, but because girls are illogical and unable to understand things outside of the immediate/emotional

I take affront this comment, Tusko - It's really hard to take someone's posting seriously when they make grossly incorrect generalizations about either gender.


I can go either way on this. My apartment building has industrial toilets that probably flush 10 times as much water as a regular household toilet. When you compare water conservation on that scale, it does build an argument for being selective with water.

That being said.. I have my own personal preferences and that is that the toilet is flushed, every time. i was brought up that you always leave everything cleaner than you found it, that goes for both the water and the toilet bowl itself.

:expressionless:

Bathroom habits versus water conservation? OP asked about how to deal with his soon-to-be live-in. Nobody's addressed that for umpteen posts. I'm getting the idea none of us were potty-trained well enough.
Why I was reading this, I'm just gonna flush.
Don't hate me 'cuz he's beautiful.

I disagree... we are discussing these things to maybe help him understand the why of what she is doing, and help him make the decision of how much of a problem it is and maybe how to approach a resolution. I guess instead we could all just give the default answer of: If it bothers you, you should certainly talk to her about it before she moves in, or it just might ruin your relationship and she will be moving out pretty quickly.

Comfort. Thanks, Crimson.

it just dawned on me that what this tells me is that the OP'ers girlfriend is dehydrated.

if she drank enough water, her urine should be clear and he wouldnt have this problem.

Good catch, man.

She could be taking vitamins, dlish. That can turn it yellow, especially early morning. And most women (around here anyway) use paper each time even though boys don't have to. That would be a tale tale sign.

Toilet paper's pricey.
Drip dry ftw. :rolleyes:

I like where you're going with this.

Flushable trees need saving too.

The hoohahs didn't have toilet paper for thousands of years. Drip dried just fine.

For DIY-men this would be a challenge - there are public toilets, that will flush themselves, when you leave and close the door.

Turns out we didn't have dental floss either. Or soap. Most of us call these things "progress."

And I refuse to eat drip dry pussy. If you can't be bothered to wipe your chin, don't expect a kiss.

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I've saved more water over the last four months than all of you hippie fucks. I crap in a bucket.

And like our boy Maddox used to say, "For every [toilet you don't flush], I'm going to [flush three]!"

You must have a huge bucket.

I'm a guy and *I* wipe the nib after writing, shaking doesn't always get everything and I hate that little damp stain you get afterwards.

Wtf, why not just flush it? It's not like she peed all over the handle. Look, I wont pee in other peoples pee, i dont even know why but... it's a toilet. People crap in it, alot. Just flush the thing, its not like your planning to serve little grapes and cheese snacks out of it.

If it really is something you cant get over, then confront it, but I'd be remissed if i didnt point out that if you determine your love based on whether someone flushes in the night, your not that in love. Dont ever go camping or to a concert you'll probably die.

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me too.