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Old 11-18-2010, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Whey Protein

I’ve been feeling good. Relapses are at a minimum. I’m ready to hit the gym much harder now. I miss my hot delts and my killer biceps. I’m getting a trainer lined up for the workouts, so I am good there. I’m not looking to be a body builder just stronger and have sweet definition.

I’m now thinking about the fuel I put into my body. I’m a vegetarian so getting enough protein from sources that aren’t also high in fat can be difficult. I’ve been looking into whey protein. I’m not vegan, so I’m ok with it being whey. I also don’t like to cook. I could make a sweet smoothie with the help of my magic bullet after my morning workout and be on my way. I know not to overdo it and will probably only ingest it after a strenuous workout to help rebuild muscle.

Do you use Whey Protein? Why? What have you found to be the benefits? Do you use a powder or another form? What brand(s)/products do you recommend?
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you use Whey Protein? Why? What have you found to be the benefits? Do you use a powder or another form? What brand(s)/products do you recommend?
I don't currently use Whey very often, but I have used the powder in the past. I prefer a mix of whey and soy, personally, because whey protein alone gives me horrendous gas. It does the same to most mortals.

I used it to supplement my protein intake when I was lifting, and it did help me make and eat more satisfying meals quickly (smoothie for breakfast instead of eggs, for example). I like it for its versatility.

I also have brown rice protein, and add that to more savory meals. Whey protein I've found to only be compatible with sweet, unfortunately.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Soy protein has half the biological value of whey protein. You can build muscle with it but you'll need twice as much. I use EAS brand 100% whey protein (the brand doesn't matter, but BJ's stocks EAS in big bags and the chocolate one tastes decent) and mix two scoops of it with one of dextrose, which spikes insulin levels and stimulates glycogen replacement faster than any other type of sugar.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Soy protein has half the biological value of whey protein. You can build muscle with it but you'll need twice as much.
This depends on the measure. According to BV, soy protein is about 75% of whey, so you don't quite need twice as much for the same value. Another measure, Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score (PDCAAS), calculates soy protein as having about the same rating as whey.

Either way, I think a lot of this stuff on "quality measurement" is splitting hairs. A scoop or two of either will do well to ensure the body gets enough for recovery after the gym. Many guides place too much emphasis on protein, when overall, you should have enough high quality calories (nutrient-dense) that are reasonably balanced.

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I agree. Brand doesn't matter in terms of quality/function. I assume all the "high-tech" stuff is mostly bullshit claims.

I've always used cheap powders. I've used both soy and whey. I normally mix it in shakes and in granola cereal with milk (either dairy or soy).

Generally speaking, both whey and soy are good sources of protein.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have a good friend that works in the industry, and protein is protein. The higher prices tend to relate to the marketing and not the actual content of the product. When I personally use it I go for the whey isolates, because they tend to taste better and mix a lot better then the standard wpc.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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We use whey protein around here. Can't remember the brand we got last time, but it was cheap at Fred Meyer and tastes decent. We like chocolate flavor. I mix it with milk to make super chocolate milk.

Next time you come over, I'll let you try some.
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Soy protein has half the biological value of whey protein. You can build muscle with it but you'll need twice as much. I use EAS brand 100% whey protein (the brand doesn't matter, but BJ's stocks EAS in big bags and the chocolate one tastes decent) and mix two scoops of it with one of dextrose, which spikes insulin levels and stimulates glycogen replacement faster than any other type of sugar.
I have used EAS in the past and now I use a store brand protein powder that's very similar. It is a good mix of protein that works well for post work outs or for meal replacement. It also has a lot of vitamins and minerals which is great.

I use protein supplements for a couple reasons, mainly because I've had great results with protein heavy diets. I will drink a protein shake after a work out but I also use protein shakes to replace meals if I don't have time to make something healthy.

I also know of a great website that has lots of varieties of protein with different flavors. I'll have to look it up but if you're interested I'll post the link.

Money doesn't dictate quality for supplements though. Make sure you're reading ingredient lists!

Mmn chocolate and banana protein shakes...
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Old 11-20-2010, 02:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Whey protien mixes easiest with milk, which is handy if you want to make a smoothie with nothing more advanced than a fork.

We've gotten hooked on unflavored soy protien, something called Vege Fuel. We bought four big jugs of it when it was being discontinued from our grocery store. I find it actually works well as a flour, replace half of the wheat with soy protein and wham - extra energy.
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I also know of a great website that has lots of varieties of protein with different flavors. I'll have to look it up but if you're interested I'll post the link.

The link would be great if you find it!
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So far, this thread is like totally "Whey!" and I was like "No Whey!" and they were like "Whey!"

I crack myself up.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I buy mine at a farmer's market (Sprouts) in bulk for about $9/lb. It is a hell of a lot cheaper than the packaged powders and doesn't contain any extra crap. It is about 10g protein/serving, 35 cal, and almost no cholesterol. I can't stand the artificial sweeteners and many brands are high in cholesterol.
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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True Protein | High Quality Nutrition and Protein Supplements.

True protein has premixed powders but you can also make a custom powder. Basically, it's awesome. You may want to do some research prior to making a custom powder but if you can use google I'm sure you can figure it out. I used a couple custom powders for a ketogenic diet that I did once and was really happy with them. I'm not fan of sugar free vanilla any more but that's what happens when you only eat protein powder six days a week. I will be ordering from them again fairly soon.

I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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We sometimes use unflavored soy protein powder to mix with a little milk and sugar-free ice cream for a smoothie.

I haven't tried whey. I buy the soy powder in the bulk foods section of the grocery store.
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