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ChickenMuffin 09-28-2010 06:34 PM

What is undying, unconditional love?
 
What does it mean?

Xerxys 09-28-2010 07:08 PM

Bend over I'll show you.

G~man 09-28-2010 09:48 PM

Erica Jong says it best...“Do you want me to tell you something really subversive? Love is everything it’s cracked up to be. That’s why people are so cynical about it….It really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for. And the trouble is, if you don’t risk everything, you risk even more.”
- Erica Jong

Xerxys 09-28-2010 10:20 PM

"Oh Peter, unconditional love is not real love." - Angela Petrelli.

Willravel 09-28-2010 10:55 PM

Unconditional love means just what it says. You love the person regardless of actions or circumstances. And that's okay. Unconditional love doesn't mean staying with someone who's abusive or obsessing over someone that's left, it just describes simple love.

Plan9 09-29-2010 12:10 AM

Only dogs are capable of unconditional love.

dlish 09-29-2010 02:01 AM

woof!

bend over and i'll show you

noodle 09-29-2010 03:18 AM

I believe in unconditional love.
I feel it.
It's unconditional like that's a whole lotta bullshit.

Amaras 09-29-2010 06:04 AM

Unconditional love is a viral disease from which the infected do not wish to be cured.

Baraka_Guru 09-29-2010 06:17 AM

It is a deep, untiring compassion for all living beings.

Amaras 09-29-2010 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amaras (Post 2826717)
Unconditional love is a viral disease from which the infected do not wish to be cured.

But a great thing, nonetheless.:thumbsup:

snowy 09-29-2010 07:30 AM

This is a topic that reminded me of this article:

http://blogs.psychcentral.com/healin...-relationship/

Quote:

Can Pets Improve Your Relationship?
By Suzanne Phillips, Psy.D., ABPP

We hardly need to look at the research to verify that pets do good things for people physically and emotionally. What is interesting in my work with couples is that although couples may vehemently disagree on most topics, they usually both soften in manner and tone to agree that the dog, cat, bird or horse is great.

In fact, if there is any criticism, it is the verbalized wish to receive the kind of love and attention the pet is getting.

“I only wish she was as affectionate with me as with our dog!”

“You should hear him speak to this animal – he never speaks to me that way.”

What happens between people and their pets that accounts for this emotional outpouring of love?

Most will answer with the responses you have heard or given:

“The dog demands nothing from me – he just gives unconditional love.”

“The cats are a predictable source of comfort and soothing – they want to be near me.”

Pets? Not demanding? Predictable? … Really?

What’s interesting is that most pets are loved in a way that makes us minimize or even deny the reality that they definitely have demands we simply accept. Some will only eat certain food; many wake people in the middle of the night; most get sick on the rug; some eat furniture and a vast majority end up on the bed no matter what anyone says.   click to show 


StanT 09-29-2010 10:01 AM

There are always conditions.

Don't sleep around.
No physical or verbal abuse

Don't crap in my bed ... (pet, not spouse)

Pearl Trade 09-29-2010 12:17 PM

Unconditional love is not having to apologize when you get it in her hair.

Willravel got it right.

Charlatan 09-29-2010 05:26 PM

Unconditional love is what I have for my kids. Everything else, regardless of how strong it might be, is conditional love.

Xerxys 09-29-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pearl Trade (Post 2826823)
Unconditional love is not having to apologize when you get it in her hair.

Willravel got it right.

Actually, it's worlds king that said that ... except he said romance, not unconditional love.

Baraka_Guru 09-29-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2826888)
Unconditional love is what I have for my kids. Everything else [...]

Ahem...I thought you said "unconditional." :orly: It's conditional in that it's reserved for your kids only.

I'm just messing with you. I always thought "unconditional love" as understood by the Western mind to be idealistic, which is part of the reason why I appreciate the Buddhist view.

Cimarron29414 10-19-2010 10:32 AM

Looking down at my newborn.

Shauk 10-19-2010 10:52 AM

a myth

KirStang 10-19-2010 07:17 PM

Yea...you don't, nor do you want to give unconditional love. Do you really want a spouse that accepts you degrading her? Or lets you get away with whatever? Do you really want to be the doormat to that beauty queen? Do you want to bail your child out of the $55k gambling debt?

Plan9 10-19-2010 09:16 PM

...but children are pets.

Jinn 10-20-2010 07:58 AM

"Unconditional love" goes down in my brain with "soulmates" and "undying love" and "God" and "happily ever after" in the category of "wishful thinking." It'd be great if we had an all-loving Father who wanted the best for us and gave us lessons and answered our prayers and if we could find someone who was truly matched for us on souls and with whom we could love perfectly without conditions for eternity.

Turns out, life is a hell of a lot more gritty than that. Rape, spousal abuse, changing personalities, emotional blackmail, infidelity, MONEY CONCERNS, character flaws discovered late and even mental disorders (schizophrenia, for example) don't happen in Disney Princess / fairy-tale God / unconditional love land. Anyone who says they can love without conditions is lying to themselves, just like someone who earnestly believes they have a soulmate or an invisible sky daddy.

I even have to object to Charlatan's 'unconditional love' for his children. I won't question HIS, particularly, but there are certainly conditions under which even the most stalwart parent will lose their love. There are stories of grieving mothers begging the court for forgiveness for their serial killer children even staring in the faces of the dead victims families, but exceptions do not make the rule. Their love would largely seem to be a mental disorder, to me.

This opinion is naturally unpopular, because everyone thinks they're a unique snowflake who somehow loves stronger than everyone else, and I'm usually inundated with people saying "ooh, not me! I love unconditionally!." See above about lying to yourself. You don't realize just how conditional love is until its terrible and you're 1 month post-divorce. Then suddenly it seems clear. Love deludes you into thinking it is more permanent and perfect than it really is.

P.S., not jaded, just realistic. Happily dating the same lady for half a decade now.

Baraka_Guru 10-20-2010 12:30 PM

Love Is Evil
 

Jinn 10-20-2010 12:59 PM

Holy shit, that man is awesome. He's very passionate about this, especially.. Now to go find out who the hell "Slavoj Zizek" is and where I can find more videos of his intellectual hobo rants..

Baraka_Guru 10-20-2010 01:02 PM

You should hear what he thinks of religion and vegetarians.

DRP976 11-16-2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickenMuffin (Post 2826627)
What does it mean?

"Unconditional love is a term that means to love someone regardless of the loved one's qualities or actions. The paradigm of unconditional love is a mother's love for her newborn.

Unconditional love is often used to describe the love in an idealized romantic relationship. It may sometimes also be used to describe love between family members, comrades in arms and between others in highly committed relationships."

*Taken from Wikipedia because i couldnt have said/typed it better myself. :thumbsup:


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