07-26-2007, 03:27 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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CNN: Cat accurately predicts soon to die patients at nursing home
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/25/dea....ap/index.html
A few hours before patients die, this little guy curls up with you, with insane accuracy. Mind Boggling |
07-26-2007, 03:44 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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This immediately reminded me of dogs who can sense a seizure before it happens. Much of that has to do with their sense of smell, I believe. Maybe cats have something that allows them to sense the "conditions" of a impending death. Animals have such keen senses that we humans can only shake our heads at. They also don't have the same number of distractions that we do.
Interesting article anyway; even if it really is the cat lying with the dying patient just because they often have a heated blanket.
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07-26-2007, 03:45 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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That is... wow. Both very cool, and kinda creepy. As long as the patients aren't too aware of the cat's presence, I see it as a good thing. But if they are aware of him, and they know that he's the "grim reaper," well that would be kind of sad/freaky.
Animals can be so cool with their "sense" of things. Wish we could understand the mechanisms a little better...
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07-26-2007, 04:57 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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oh no! Keep it away from their assholes!
/in response to Dr Mario Kart Anyway, pretty interesting.
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07-26-2007, 06:17 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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Pretty kitty... where can I get me one of those?
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07-26-2007, 11:13 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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This is the first and only time I've ever laughed at one of those "cat pics with funky words under them" pictures... and I laughed long and hard. Congratulations. I would also make the following observation: People, even with full-blown dementia/Alzheimer's/neurological disorders, are more likely to succumb to their fate if they feel relaxed, at peace. If the cat is curling up with the patient, even though they *say* the patient likely doesn't know the cat is there, the patient may still feel the cat on them, feel the warmth or *something*. If this is the case, it would certainly support the idea that when the cat curls up, it gives the patient some level of comfort, some feeling of companionship, that causes them to relax a bit and finally give in to their illness. Even if the person is completely unresponsive to external stimuli like talking or touching, doesn't necessarily mean they can't hear or feel what's going on. We don't know that for certain. So really... the cat may almost be giving people the comfort to finally die, rather than predicting when it actually happens. Last edited by analog; 07-26-2007 at 11:21 AM.. |
07-26-2007, 11:19 AM | #12 (permalink) | |
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07-26-2007, 12:24 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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Now I know why my cat "checks" on me at night. Psychic bastard. ... Omigod, I GOT it. Hahaha, a NEW LINE OF US AIR FORCE SMART MUNITIONS! Simply insert Oscar-like cats into bomb capsules and drop them on "terrorists"... No explosion, no napalm, no radiation... just "terrorists" that get cuddled with and die the next day. Last edited by Plan9; 07-26-2007 at 12:27 PM.. Reason: Smart Munitions |
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Mary Jane Rottencrotch: "Awwww...look Grandma, the furry little Angel of Death just curled up beside you. Idn't dat cute?" Grandma: "AHHHHHHH!! Get it off me!! Get it off me!!
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07-27-2007, 04:47 AM | #16 (permalink) | |
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07-27-2007, 03:29 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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While not necessisarily death related, I had a cat that on one of my more down emotional days cut out its normal antics and spent a little additional time with me.
The cat, in its way. was offering support to me....
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07-29-2007, 05:36 AM | #20 (permalink) |
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I was yesterday visiting a friend in ICU, at the hospital, and they have very unique visiting hours (30 minutes every 2 hours). Needless to say this story came on tv while we were waiting and there was about 8-9 different families there, and it started a whole conversation about it. Was very interesting to see the split but most people there were ready to kill the cat, and said it was not really a good thing.
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07-29-2007, 05:56 AM | #21 (permalink) |
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Isn't there an old superstition about cats stealing your breath while you sleep?
Ours have a different talent. They can magically sense whenever I'm in the biggest fattest hurry of my life and they take turns lining up in front of me and walking like little kitty grandmas. Ask Grancey how many times a week she'll suddenly hear me calling out from somewhere in the house, "Get out of the way, get out of the way, get the fuck out of the way!"
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08-03-2007, 09:47 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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I don't know why they haven't arrested this cat for murder. He's a four-legged furry Angel of Death!
Line up the dots, man! Cat curls up next to patient, patient dies? It's no coincidence, man. That cat is evil I tell you.
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08-03-2007, 03:29 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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QuasiMondo, they don't try animals...they simply put them to death.
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08-06-2007, 01:25 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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Oh, that's awesome, Dr.MK, awesome.
I'd be using it to scare the crap out of the bad residents. "Oh, the angel of death is curled up on bed, Mr. Johnson. I guess next time you'll eat your damn green beans, huh?"
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02-02-2010, 04:58 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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Great. For the past week Sophia, my fave feline, has insisted on sleeping somewhere on my body during the night. What could this possibly mean?? Don't wanna know.
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02-02-2010, 05:29 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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I can haz confurmashun bias?
... I read about this yesterday -- it popped up as a CBC story. Nifty little piece I suppose. Maybe the cat is psychic. Or, y'know, maybe not.
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02-02-2010, 05:42 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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Cats are dumb.
They're reading into this too much. First of all, it's a nursing home. So that alone makes it a bit easier than most places to predict that someone is going to die within hours or days. Second, it's entirely possible that the people who were near death were treating the cat with extra kindness, knowing themselves that they weren't long for this world. ...or, perhaps, the cat was able to get more table scraps from these patients because, you know, maybe they lost their own appetites while in the throes of death.
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02-02-2010, 05:52 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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I have been in a nursing home where there was a 29 year old patient. Did that mean he was going to die there as well? (he didn't)
If I were on my deathbed, I wouldn't make any effort to treat an animal with extra kindness if it happened to be sitting on it with me. I just wouldn't care that it was there. I'd probably be too tired to move any single extremity.
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Compared to what? Us? I'm not sure where I have this regard (maybe my 25+ year subscribtion to Nat'l Geo, or something else altogether perhaps) but among the animal kingdom, cats, ranging from regular housecats to the big predator cats, are near the top of the intelligience charts, even surpassing simians and some primates.
Also, this could be a good starter point to dispel such a broad claim (and hasty): HowStuffWorks "Domestic Cats" Quote:
I don't see how feigning propped 'what-if' contemplations like the ones above helps any more than responding by saying where is the scientific basis for such a ridiculous claim as a feline harbinger of death? Neither is any more productive in ascertaining the root of the story and happenstances in which this cat has alleged fortold imminent death. Yes, at the moment, there is no scientific evidence of a certain receptor that allows a cat to hone in on the waking dead, but that may be more as a result of us never looking close enough to care. Or maybe this is a 1 in 500,000 occurrence that this particular has been embued with heightened recptors to the lingering signs of terminal, failing health in humans. This is an ongoing eerie circumstance, and with more instances in which this cat is able to certainly provide further correct cases of declining mortality, the more intriguing (and supposedly stronger) it actually becomes. I just take the word of the reporters and with what the hospital staff have witnessed thus far, and make my inferences from there. It's not altogether unlikely that this one cat has better senses than you or I, but to detect death? I may like to know more him in the future, even if it is found out that all cats have this innate ability, yet only this one cat was able to properly make use of it (if by only freaking out the entire hospital staff at first).
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02-02-2010, 06:29 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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Damn, sorry. I don't have that sarcasm mark. That SarcMark thing, or whatever.
I have two cats. Combined, they run the household. Regardless, I think a large part of this is coincidental. Though I will give animals such as cats and dogs a lot of credit for having heightened senses that we could only dream of. Maybe that has something to do with it. Can't dogs sniff cancer and sense seizures?
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