jorgelito

Ha!! Agreed, agreed!! (careful, we don't want to incur the wrath of Lady Sage)

Welcome to LA. The majority of the dogs in the animal shelters are pitbulls and rotweillers, all on death row. It's absolutely insane. These poor dogs were mistreated to the point where they are a hazard. Personally, I blame the rap videos for promoting this gangsta macho image that makes pitbulls and rotweillers a must have accessory for the urban man.

Ironically, the upper-class Brentwood professional is the one I am having trouble with. They all seem to think their pitbulls and rotweillers are children and treat them accordingly. One asked me if I knew a good doggie therapist because she wanted to put her little "boo bear" on doggie prozac. Another was convinced that her doggie was depressed and needed zoloft. My favorite, the lady who was telling me her doggie had ADD because he had trouble paying attention to anything except food and sniffing around. The kicker, apparently there is doggie ritalin. With people like this, is it really surprising that they would walk around with their doggies off leash or worse, push them in strollers (I have seen this) and then their dogs become aggressive and attack others? The worst part is, most of these people ARE lawyers (and doctors, entertainment people etc.).

*sigh*

JustJess

It sounds like you need to taser the owners, then. Idiots.

Um, and for the record - cats can be just as much the victim of poor training as dogs. My cats wouldn't ever do that unless attacked (and even then, they'd just run for it). Cats do NOT suck!
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Ch'i

That's a great idea Jess. Forget the dog; if it attacks you, jump the owner. It would be alot easier than fighting the dog, and would certainly make you feel better about the whole ordeal. Nothing's getting out of that one in one piece.

Ratman

I'm getting a kick out of this thread. If being a dog owner means I have to cart my massive balls around in a wheelbarrow, I'll stick to cats, thanks. Seriously, though, in reading this thread it seems to me that if you have to worry about possibly kicking the ass (macing, whatever) every dog (or dog owner) you encounter when you're out with with your dog, that would take a lot of the fun out of having a dog.

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shakran

It does, which is why dipshits who won't leash and control their animals should not have dogs.

Ch'i

"It does, which is why dipshits who won't leash and control their animals should not have [children]."

magictoy

Yes, especially when they roam in packs and maul people. Oh, wait ...

Back on topic: I firmly believe that there is nothing so outlandish that someone, somewhere, isn't doing it.

On that basis, I am going well outside the envelope and asking the more knowledgeable people if anyone has heard of a small, commercially available NET.

I was thinking one made out of fishline, with enough weights strategically placed, might be light enough to carry, and yet might trip up an attacking dog, even if it only did so long enough for one to go taze the dog's idiot owner.

Does anyone know if such a device exists? It would sure be a humane way to solve the problem, if using one is feasible.

IanSturgill

I would definitley defend my dog, I got him at nine weeks, and he is never around anyone but family and close friends. He's even racist, dark skinned people freak him out. he doesn't know how to deal with other dogs. I totally have to help him out at the park, like once a year(I live on a Farm).

Willravel

Like this?


Lions ate my father....and raped my mother!

Ch'i

They took our land...

squirrelyburt

Gotta throw my 2 cents in... Grabbing a dog by the throat is nuts!! Especially if you are dealing with an enraged pit bull (aka targets). Pepper spray WILL work on any dog, I've used it several times on different breeds. Pit Bulls do react less, but they DO react!! The only other things that have been mentioned is the yelling, and I have kicked dogs in the ribs, they have backed off.

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I usually walk a 13lb IG and a 85lb Labradoodle. When a stray comes along... I pick up the IG and pray the Labradoodle can handle his.

Slims

My dog is a family member and he is submissive, so he doesn't try to eat other dogs. If another dog attacks him and I can't stop it by yelling, etc. then I will just shoot it. My dog is more important to me than some asshat's inbread killing machine.

I know what a fully grown, agressive dog is capable of and I am not dumb enough to try to stop it bare handed unless I had no other choice...it probably wouldn't end well if it chooses not to back off.

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Atropos4

I've been attacked by a pittbull mix while walking my late dog Blacky. She was a 10lb mix and I scooped her up and turned. "Red" the dog bit me all up and down my arm while his owner (a 10 year old kid) tried to pull him off with the lead he was actually on. The kid finally tackled the dog and I ended up going to the emergency room to have the bites looked at. I was in no position to attack the dog but I knew enough that I had to stay standing and keep turning so that he didn't get my throat or get my dog. I ended up with some bruises and a nasty bite on my wrist that scratched some tendons but otherwise I was fine physically.
Now when going on walks with Cleo and unleased dogs approach agressively I yell and stomp towards them visiously and they usually stop and change their mind. Also helps that Cleo is a badass to protect us. haha

I work as a pet groomer and have had some interesting experiences with being attacked by big dogs.
In once incident a german shepherd that had never been agressive towards me before decided she didn't want a nail trim and turned very quickly and grabed my face. Basically grabbing my ching and side of my face. I didn't even think about it, it happened so fast. In a matter of a few seconds I had smacked her muzzle and had her flipped by her throat and was lying on top of her straddling her holding her down. Even after I let her go she still lay there completely submissive. My adrenaline was working over time and I had to go clean up my face before I got one of the vet techs to help me muzzle and finish trimming her nails. I did tell the owners exactly what happened and they felt awful for what she did and now I believe they trim her nails themselves for fear she will attack someone.
Be it stupid or no...I didn't even think about grabbing the dog by the throat....she could have hurt be badly but instinct and adrenaline just sort of take over when you are put in that sort of dangerous situation.

A few other times while grooming bigger breeds such as Great Pyrennees or Old English Sheep dog's I've been lunged at while sitting on the floor next to them. Not really have much leverage the first thing I do is turn quickly and put my feet against their chest and push...Not hard but it has worked everytime even when they are being very agressive. I'm not saying in any way sit down and give the dog your legs....haha that would be extremely stupid. But if already in a sitting position and you do not have the time to get up use your legs to your advantage.

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