hannukah harry

unfortunately, you're not going to be able to work out based a HR range. the beta blockers make that impossible. you'll need to work out based on your "rate of percieved exertion." http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/phys...d_exertion.htm

even taking an o2 test (which doesn't tell you much about your HR) won't do you any real good. the reason is because there are too many variables. your max heart rate without taking the beta blockers is going to be x. right after you've taken the BB and they've started to kick in, your new max HR will be y, 2 hours after taking the BB the effects of them will produce a new max HR because they won't be at their full effects anymore. the futher fromt he time that you take your pill, the less the effects will be. So you can't go based on numbers. You can try to use them as a guide, but unless you take the BB and workout at the same time each day (with the same amount of time between them) and eat the same things when you take the BB (different foods can cause different rates of absorption into the blood), you'll never have the exact same results. even if you do keep everything the same, there's no gauruntee that you can use the same numbers each day. so get numbers if you'd like, but they'll at best be a very relaxed guide.

exercise based on how the workout is making you feel will be a much better method of determining your workout intensity each day. also, if you're ont he beta blockers because of a cardiac event, you might want to call whomever you did your cardiac rehab with and see about having them help you set up a program.

__________________
shabbat shalom, mother fucker! - the hebrew hammer

ryfo

thanx for your info i was actually put on them after having a bp of 245/140 and nothing was found to be the cause. I am not old (40) and not obese and i am fairly active. i think harrys advice is the best i will just workout to the max intesity i can each day....and thanx didnt know different foods could effect the absorption of meds.

balefire88

Could you suggest some good protein powders/shakes? I did some research online, but most sites' testimonials seemed a little shady. They felt like ads.

Thanks.

__________________
"Today is the beginning of the rest of your life."

noahfor

At Large Nutrition

http://atlargenutrition.com/

The dudes that own a workout message board I go to, started a supplement company and it's At Large Nutrition. I don't know all the details, but the site was around way before the company and the dudes always posted and they seemed like they were genuinely interested in helping people, so I believe that they try and put out the best products possible. I've never actually ordered anything from them. I just go to GNC, but I hear good things.

thingstodo

I personally like Optimum Nutrition (ON). I purchase mine from http://www.musclesurf.com./ I like the vanilla ice cream flavor because you can mix it with many different flavors if you're into making up shakes. It also mixes very well with just water. If I want to take the powder along for mixinf later, I often add some of the Carnation Malted Milk powder that adds an even miky-er flavor. Here's a link directly to the product: http://www.musclesurf.com./

For recovery from a hard cardio workout I really like Endurox. I feel much better when I use this stuff after those tough workouts. I'm not starving in an hour like I am with just protein.

Here's a link to that stuff: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=2412

A few facts on it...

Extends endurance by 55%
Decreases post-exercise muscle damage by 36%, reduces free radical build-up by 69%
Increases insulin levels by 70% to speed the replenishment of muscle glycogen and the rebuilding of protein
Carbs: 53g
Protein: 14g
Sugars: 40g
Calories: 270

Just remember: it's a recovery drink, not primarily a protein drink.

__________________
If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves.

Stangers have the best candy.

Hektore

I like to climb as well, and my current understanding is the best workout for climbing is climbing. Treat climbing like a workout when you go, especially bouldering because it is so short and high intensity. Do sets, with rest intervals the works, don't go two days in a row, and don't overdo it when you're there.

For workouts separate from climbing, typically you want a lot of upper body focus, not on the lower body. I don't think I've ever heard of someone failing on a route because of leg pump. For climbing in general (as opposed to bouldering specifically, but much of it still applies), the book how to climb 5.12 is pretty helpful. A friend of mine owns it and while I haven't read it cover to cover the parts that I have read contain good, concise information. Also, I don't know your living arrangment but you can usually build a pretty nice campus board relatively cheaply. They don't take up much space and provide you with a great climbing-oriented workout opportunity if you can't get to the gym(either or them) all the time. If you aren't sure how to build/use a campus board there is a nice guide(.pdf) at metolius.

Also something I have found to be incredibly helpful is completing a route multple times. Many people do a route once and never even look at it again, but if you rework the problem multiple times (over a few days) you will better commit the movement to memory, refine it so you use less energy and train the muscles used specifically for that movement.

__________________
The advantage law is the best law in rugby, because it lets you ignore all the others for the good of the game.

Willravel

My old New Balance running shoes have just died, and at an inopportune time. Since I've started getting more serious about running recently, I want to get a pair of shoes that can keep up. I did some searching and found these. Wide (fits!), 12, nike+(iPod records info)... but I've not used Nike running shoes since I was in middleschool.

Are these good shoes? What should I be looking for? Any other important information about running?

Thanks!

Edit: In case anyone is wondering why a healthy individual would start running: I want my stomach to be like someone put a plastic bag on 6 rocks. I miss that.

dlish

will

ive been involved in running since i was young. ive also had a lot of problems with my feet and i had problems as a teenager when i was running on an almost daily basis. i had problem with pronation of my feet (inward) which in effect caused a collapsed arch (different to a flat foot).

i had my podiatrist prescribe and manufacture for me orthotics that i insert in all my shoes. nowadays i dont realise they are there..

anyways..back on the topic.. ive had nikes since i was a kid..but nearly all nikes have a narrow throat at the arch. i find that it gives you less support, especially if you have a problematic gait or excessive pronation. i also find that nikes are designed for 'the perfect foot' which not many people have.

for problematic feet, id recommend Asics. They are by far the best shoes ive had. ive been wearing them for over 10 years and i'd swear by them. then nearly all have wide arches and the most support that ive had.

ive had new balance cross trainers, and although they are good, anything over 10km runs and ill start getting blisters.

the_jazz would be someone you could ask. hes been running for many years, so he'll definately have an opinion on what shoes he thinks is best.

__________________
An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere

I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay?
- Filthy

maleficent

will your best bet is to go to a running store with your current shoes so they can check the wear on it - and get properly fitted with a new pair of shoes... A running store (not a box store like sports authority but a fleet feet, dick ponds, etc) will watch you walk or run and suggest an appropriate pair of shoes - what works for you - might not be good for others and vice versa.

__________________

Baraka_Guru

My own New Balance shoes are near the end of their lifespan. I bought them last year with the intention of teaching myself how to run, but it never came to fruit. I want to get a new pair of shoes and give it another go.

Apparently, I need "cushioned"-style shoes because I underpronate (i.e. normal to high arch, and a roll outward). Does this sound right? I got this information from runnersworld.com.

Also, I plan on doing some crosstraining. I have this great book that shows you some weight training you can do for injury prevention and performance. It also has stretching, cycling, swimming, etc, all of which I hope to incorporate somehow. Anyone have any experience in this? (Sorry, I haven't (re)read this thread lately....and my eyes are blurry.)

Any starter tips/advice/motivations are welcome. I'm not new to fitness, but I'm new to running (well, cardio training in general).

__________________
Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing?
—Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön

Humankind cannot bear very much reality.
—From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot