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sub zero · 11-24-2005, 07:08 PM

hello people, a while back i read a magazine forgot the name but it showed you how to roughly build yourself a forgot how many million dollar linear particle accelerator for the mere price of 30 to 50 american bucks.... who has actually become froggy enough to go ahead and build one???? can you post pictures please? no nudey photos... thank you. ps haha PPS so whats the deal with neutrino detectors???

leftyderek · 11-25-2005, 12:07 AM

I honestly don't think anyone would be bothered to build a home-made, say, x-ray machine... Then if I had the instructions and money available, I wouldn't mind trying.

I'm looking forward to seeing pics of a home-made LPA though.

stingc · 11-25-2005, 12:52 AM

Sorry, but you're not going to build an equivalent of a 50 million dollar device for $50. Maybe you were thinking of a cloud chamber or a cyclotron? Small versions of those might be doable on a small budget. I doubt you could make an interesting linear accelerator, and I don't know what you'd do with it anyway.

As for neutrino detectors, you're definitely not going to build one of those on your own. Neutrinos very rarely interact with anything, and are therefore extremely difficult to detect. There's really no way of scaling down neutrino detectors unless you're willing to wait a century or two before detecting anything

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ObieX · 11-25-2005, 01:07 AM

I think you would need heavy water for a neutrino detector.

ObieX · 11-25-2005, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stingc

As for neutrino detectors, you're definitely not going to build one of those on your own. Neutrinos very rarely interact with anything, and are therefore extremely difficult to detect. There's really no way of scaling down neutrino detectors unless you're willing to wait a century or two before detecting anything

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Yea neutrinos pass right through the earth like it isnt there. The detectors that are around now are extremely huge, and even then the chances of anything happening in them is pretty slim.

aKula · 11-25-2005, 05:17 AM

Dr. Kaku ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku ) built a particle accelerator himself in his last year of highschool. He got his parents to help him make solenoids from the copper wire he bought. They didn't know exactly what he was building but knew it was something important. So yes it is possible to build a simple particle accelerator.

To detect "natural" neutrinos (coming from the Sun, not those around nuclear reactors) they ended up building huge tanks full of cleaning fluid (which contains chlorine 37 which reacts with neutrinos to form argon-37) in deep mine shafts. The largest of these capture around 10,000 neutrinos a year, so any argon-37 is difficult to detect.

Building a muon detector may be more feasible. Here are some links explaining:
http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q3781.html
this one even has some instructions on how to build one:
http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q3781.html

stingc · 11-25-2005, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by aKula

Dr. Kaku ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku ) built a particle accelerator himself in his last year of highschool. He got his parents to help him make solenoids from the copper wire he bought. They didn't know exactly what he was building but knew it was something important. So yes it is possible to build a simple particle accelerator.

That was a cyloctron, as I remember. And yes, it is possible to build one, but it takes some money (more than $50) and pretty good fabrication skills.

shakran · 11-26-2005, 06:22 AM

if you wanna be technical, just go to the scrapyard and pick up an old TV. Take the CRT gun, and write "particle accelerator" on it. Cause that's essentially what it is

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leftyderek Crazy Location: Currently Canada. I have been in Norway in the last two years, and in Hong Kong before Norway.	I honestly don't think anyone would be bothered to build a home-made, say, x-ray machine... Then if I had the instructions and money available, I wouldn't mind trying. I'm looking forward to seeing pics of a home-made LPA though. __________________ -Imagine how beautiful the world would be if we could only do things for the first-and-last time. Imagine this is the last time you would ever be able to imagine. Imagine that. -Die Lust der Zerstörung ist gleichzeitig eine schaffende Lust. -...and god said Lx1,go! and there was light...

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11-25-2005, 12:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
stingc Psycho Location: PA	Sorry, but you're not going to build an equivalent of a 50 million dollar device for $50. Maybe you were thinking of a cloud chamber or a cyclotron? Small versions of those might be doable on a small budget. I doubt you could make an interesting linear accelerator, and I don't know what you'd do with it anyway. As for neutrino detectors, you're definitely not going to build one of those on your own. Neutrinos very rarely interact with anything, and are therefore extremely difficult to detect. There's really no way of scaling down neutrino detectors unless you're willing to wait a century or two before detecting anything .

11-25-2005, 05:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
aKula Psycho	Dr. Kaku ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku ) built a particle accelerator himself in his last year of highschool. He got his parents to help him make solenoids from the copper wire he bought. They didn't know exactly what he was building but knew it was something important. So yes it is possible to build a simple particle accelerator. To detect "natural" neutrinos (coming from the Sun, not those around nuclear reactors) they ended up building huge tanks full of cleaning fluid (which contains chlorine 37 which reacts with neutrinos to form argon-37) in deep mine shafts. The largest of these capture around 10,000 neutrinos a year, so any argon-37 is difficult to detect. Building a muon detector may be more feasible. Here are some links explaining: http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q3781.html this one even has some instructions on how to build one: http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q3781.html

11-26-2005, 06:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	if you wanna be technical, just go to the scrapyard and pick up an old TV. Take the CRT gun, and write "particle accelerator" on it. Cause that's essentially what it is