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mrpoopoohead · 07-05-2005, 01:03 AM

Is there any way to know which box to choose next??

ObieX · 07-05-2005, 01:22 AM

Look toward the area where there are 3 2s. Thats probably the best area to do it. What i would pick is probably the one that is in row 4 column 5. (to the right of the 1 that is above the 1 that is above the 2)

Thats a tough one, though. I'd have to say that would be your best bet.

Edit: actually now that i think about it.. thats probably not hte best idea lol. hmm. There an answer im just not awake enough to find it.

Edit 2: But yea the area with the 2s is the place to look. The major clue is the 1 below the 3 2s.

oblar · 07-05-2005, 05:47 AM

i personally think you are at the point that a guess is as good as any. I know, I hate it when that happens too, but it occurs sometime. Although you will tend to notice trends (or what you think are trends), and I think that is similar to what the above post is explaining.

by the way, so you don't have to crop it next time, I believe it is ALT+PrintScreen (or is it Ctrl?) that will only copy the current window.. so just try that and paste it into a program and you won't need to crop.

ObieX · 07-05-2005, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oblar

i personally think you are at the point that a guess is as good as any.

Yea in that situation instead of stressing too much over what to pick i would just pick a random spot in the closed area hoping it would open up a large section.

Charlatan · 07-05-2005, 07:39 AM

Column 5 Row 1....

matthew330 · 07-05-2005, 07:45 AM

Row 1, column 5 is a non-bomb, because Row 2 or 3 (of column 5) has to be a bomb based on the two possible scenarios of the 2's down at the bottom. Start there and see if that opens anything up.

For that matter, row 1 columns 3, and 4 are also open.

bobophil · 07-05-2005, 12:26 PM

top left... thats usually how its programmed to work95% chance that wont be a mine

El Pollo · 07-05-2005, 12:45 PM

If you look at the bottom right, where you have 1222, you can go ahead and mark the thrid from the bottom as a mine. You know that one of the first two but not not both of the first two has a mine by the 1. And since the next 2 covers 3 blocks and only one is not shared with the 1, the one that is not shared has to be a mine.
Same principle in the top left. Since the first two blocks are shared by the first two 1s, you know that the third block has to be clear, or else the second 1 would have to be a 2.
And then you can keep on going this way. Back at the bottom right where you just marked a mine, the next mine must be within the next two blocks, but it cannot be in the third block because then it would violate the 1, so you can clear the third block up from that mine.
Slowly chipping away like this will get you where you need to be. And, yes, I've spent way too much time with this game.

rsl12 · 07-07-2005, 06:38 AM

Safe Spaces: R1C1, R1C3, R1C4, R1C5, R4C5

Bomb spaces: R1C2, R7C5

I'll leave it to you to figure out why.

rsl12 · 07-07-2005, 06:46 AM

or maybe I won't:

there are two possibilities:

OXOOOXOOXOXXO
OXOOOOXOOXXOX

x = bomb space, O = safe space. the notation here is that the 1st character is R1C1, 2nd is R1C2, then R1C3, R1C4, R1C5, and then we go down, so the 6th character is R2C5, then R3C5, etc etc.

Where you have two Os, that's a sure safe space. Where you have two Xs, that's a sure bomb space.

BonesCPA · 07-07-2005, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl12

or maybe I won't:

there are two possibilities:

OXOOOXOOXOXXO
OXOOOOXOOXXOX

x = bomb space, O = safe space. the notation here is that the 1st character is R1C1, 2nd is R1C2, then R1C3, R1C4, R1C5, and then we go down, so the 6th character is R2C5, then R3C5, etc etc.

Where you have two Os, that's a sure safe space. Where you have two Xs, that's a sure bomb space.

Why can't it be:

XOOX.........

The only absolutely safe place is R1C3.
The only absolutey bomb place is R8C5. (Which by further deduction makes R4C5 safe.)

Other than that, you are on your own.

El Pollo has the same answers in more detail.

rsl12 · 07-07-2005, 09:33 AM

BonesCPA: It cannot be XOOX...I leave that as a problem for you to solve. Just try to continue the sequence and you'll see there's a problem down the line.

Ragbags · 07-08-2005, 06:14 AM

rsl12 is correct:
It can't be XOOX because the 2 in R4C6 is left with only one bomb to its bottom right (following the squares from R1C1 right and down: XOOXOOOXOOX...)

itch vaccine · 07-11-2005, 08:37 AM

omg you guys are minesweeper crazy

i would just go for top right.
hahaha

and if it booms, i'll go edit the text file in Windows folder, putting my name in at 1 second as the top score

have fun

Jinn · 07-11-2005, 10:10 AM

OBLAR YOU ARE MY HERO!

ALT-PRINTSCREEN! I always crop my printscreens (and I do A LOT of them)..

Oh and I think the answer is ..uhh....

XOXOOXoooXOXXOoxoxoxXOX

Blackthorn · 07-11-2005, 04:33 PM

Minesweeper is still around! Who KNEW??

aKula · 07-11-2005, 07:15 PM

One of my friends is a minesweeper freak. 20 seconds intermediate and 88 seconds expert. Here are some crazy videos he found a while ago: http://metanoodle.com/minesweeper/videos.html
some more recent ones can be found at:
http://www.planet-minesweeper.com/

mrpoopoohead · 07-12-2005, 01:58 AM

thanks for all the help everyone

djflish · 07-12-2005, 04:36 AM

In that situation I would click on the top, left corner square. If there is a long row of just ones, I usually pick the very end one. I would say that 8/10 it isn't a bomb

THGL · 07-13-2005, 04:48 AM

So what was the outcome?

I think it's neat when a time-waster like Minesweeper ends up taxing your brain like that.

I don't remember the name of it, but someone made a version of Minesweeper for the Mac where you could set the board at 9999x9999 (or something insanely close to that). There was even a Map window so you could tell where on the board you were.

MSD · 07-15-2005, 01:51 PM

Ah, crap. Who wants to guess?

meepa · 07-15-2005, 10:44 PM

Well the 2 in the corner obviously needs two mines next to it. It is flanked across the aisle by 1s in each direction. But clearly you can't put the two mines next to each other, or you'd be doubling up on the 1s. Thus the only way is a mine above and to the right of the 2 in the corner.

12X
XO3
2X1

If you did

12X
XX3
2O1

Then the 1 on top will explode.

12X
OX3
2X1

This has the same problem with the 1 on the right

No guesses required!

Rawb · 07-20-2005, 03:25 PM

Just so you know, you can cheat at minesweeper.

Incase you really want to impress your friends in some cheezy little way, here is how to do it:

With your cursor in the minesweeper window, type XYZZY (I can't remember if it needs all caps or not...), then press Shift+Enter, and then Enter.

If you did it correctly, a _SINGLE_ pixel in the top left corner of your screen will appear, and it will be white on a not-mine, and black on a mine.

itch vaccine · 07-23-2005, 09:00 AM

Yeah right Rawb :P

aKula · 07-23-2005, 02:19 PM

Nah that cheat actually works in windows XP. Using it you can peform 'magic' by flagging all the mines without even opening a single square.

optik_nerve · 07-24-2005, 08:39 PM

I've never understood the concept of Minesweeper. I just went for it.

pattycakes · 07-29-2005, 09:46 PM

i never could figure out this fin game

Slavakion · 07-30-2005, 05:48 AM

The cheat is xyzzy (no caps necessary) and shift. The pixel will appear on top of whatever window/desktop is currently in the background. The game actually lets you record high scores with this.

07-05-2005, 01:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
mrpoopoohead Loser	Minesweeper Help Is there any way to know which box to choose next??

07-05-2005, 01:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	Look toward the area where there are 3 2s. Thats probably the best area to do it. What i would pick is probably the one that is in row 4 column 5. (to the right of the 1 that is above the 1 that is above the 2) Thats a tough one, though. I'd have to say that would be your best bet. Edit: actually now that i think about it.. thats probably not hte best idea lol. hmm. There an answer im just not awake enough to find it. Edit 2: But yea the area with the 2s is the place to look. The major clue is the 1 below the 3 2s. __________________ We Must Dissent. Last edited by ObieX; 07-05-2005 at 01:27 AM..

07-05-2005, 05:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
oblar Über-Rookie Location: No longer, D.C	i personally think you are at the point that a guess is as good as any. I know, I hate it when that happens too, but it occurs sometime. Although you will tend to notice trends (or what you think are trends), and I think that is similar to what the above post is explaining. by the way, so you don't have to crop it next time, I believe it is ALT+PrintScreen (or is it Ctrl?) that will only copy the current window.. so just try that and paste it into a program and you won't need to crop. __________________ "All that we can do is just survive. .All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive." - Rush

07-05-2005, 07:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Column 5 Row 1.... __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

07-05-2005, 12:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
bobophil Tilted	top left... thats usually how its programmed to work95% chance that wont be a mine __________________ Check and mate, now king me. -Homer

07-05-2005, 07:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
matthew330 Banned	Row 1, column 5 is a non-bomb, because Row 2 or 3 (of column 5) has to be a bomb based on the two possible scenarios of the 2's down at the bottom. Start there and see if that opens anything up. For that matter, row 1 columns 3, and 4 are also open.

07-05-2005, 12:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
El Pollo Insane Location: Austin, TX	If you look at the bottom right, where you have 1222, you can go ahead and mark the thrid from the bottom as a mine. You know that one of the first two but not not both of the first two has a mine by the 1. And since the next 2 covers 3 blocks and only one is not shared with the 1, the one that is not shared has to be a mine. Same principle in the top left. Since the first two blocks are shared by the first two 1s, you know that the third block has to be clear, or else the second 1 would have to be a 2. And then you can keep on going this way. Back at the bottom right where you just marked a mine, the next mine must be within the next two blocks, but it cannot be in the third block because then it would violate the 1, so you can clear the third block up from that mine. Slowly chipping away like this will get you where you need to be. And, yes, I've spent way too much time with this game.

07-07-2005, 06:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	Safe Spaces: R1C1, R1C3, R1C4, R1C5, R4C5 Bomb spaces: R1C2, R7C5 I'll leave it to you to figure out why. __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy. Last edited by rsl12; 07-07-2005 at 06:43 AM..

07-07-2005, 06:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	or maybe I won't: there are two possibilities: OXOOOXOOXOXXO OXOOOOXOOXXOX x = bomb space, O = safe space. the notation here is that the 1st character is R1C1, 2nd is R1C2, then R1C3, R1C4, R1C5, and then we go down, so the 6th character is R2C5, then R3C5, etc etc. Where you have two Os, that's a sure safe space. Where you have two Xs, that's a sure bomb space. __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy.

07-07-2005, 09:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
rsl12 On the lam Location: northern va	BonesCPA: It cannot be XOOX...I leave that as a problem for you to solve. Just try to continue the sequence and you'll see there's a problem down the line. __________________ oh baby oh baby, i like gravy.

07-08-2005, 06:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ragbags Upright	rsl12 is correct: It can't be XOOX because the 2 in R4C6 is left with only one bomb to its bottom right (following the squares from R1C1 right and down: XOOXOOOXOOX...)

07-11-2005, 08:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
itch vaccine Psycho Location: on my spinning computer chair	omg you guys are minesweeper crazy i would just go for top right. hahaha and if it booms, i'll go edit the text file in Windows folder, putting my name in at 1 second as the top score have fun __________________ "When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, it seems like two minutes. When you sit on a hot stove for two minutes, it seems like two hours. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

07-11-2005, 10:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	OBLAR YOU ARE MY HERO! ALT-PRINTSCREEN! I always crop my printscreens (and I do A LOT of them).. Oh and I think the answer is ..uhh.... XOXOOXoooXOXXOoxoxoxXOX __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

07-11-2005, 04:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
Blackthorn Beware the Mad Irish Location: Wish I was on the N17...	Minesweeper is still around! Who KNEW?? __________________ What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want?

07-11-2005, 07:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
aKula Psycho	One of my friends is a minesweeper freak. 20 seconds intermediate and 88 seconds expert. Here are some crazy videos he found a while ago: http://metanoodle.com/minesweeper/videos.html some more recent ones can be found at: http://www.planet-minesweeper.com/

07-12-2005, 01:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
mrpoopoohead Loser	thanks for all the help everyone

07-12-2005, 04:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
djflish The Mighty Boosh Location: I mostly come out at night, mostly...	In that situation I would click on the top, left corner square. If there is a long row of just ones, I usually pick the very end one. I would say that 8/10 it isn't a bomb __________________ Europes two great narcotics, Alcohol and Christianity. I know which one I prefer.

07-13-2005, 04:48 AM	#20 (permalink)
THGL Psycho Location: Louisville, KY	So what was the outcome? I think it's neat when a time-waster like Minesweeper ends up taxing your brain like that. I don't remember the name of it, but someone made a version of Minesweeper for the Mac where you could set the board at 9999x9999 (or something insanely close to that). There was even a Map window so you could tell where on the board you were. __________________ "The truth is merely an excuse for lack of imagination." - Garak

07-15-2005, 01:51 PM	#21 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Ah, crap. Who wants to guess?

07-15-2005, 10:44 PM	#22 (permalink)
meepa Insane	Well the 2 in the corner obviously needs two mines next to it. It is flanked across the aisle by 1s in each direction. But clearly you can't put the two mines next to each other, or you'd be doubling up on the 1s. Thus the only way is a mine above and to the right of the 2 in the corner. 12X XO3 2X1 If you did 12X XX3 2O1 Then the 1 on top will explode. 12X OX3 2X1 This has the same problem with the 1 on the right No guesses required!

07-20-2005, 03:25 PM	#23 (permalink)
Rawb Crazy Location: Salt Town, UT	Just so you know, you can cheat at minesweeper. Incase you really want to impress your friends in some cheezy little way, here is how to do it: With your cursor in the minesweeper window, type XYZZY (I can't remember if it needs all caps or not...), then press Shift+Enter, and then Enter. If you did it correctly, a _SINGLE_ pixel in the top left corner of your screen will appear, and it will be white on a not-mine, and black on a mine.

07-23-2005, 09:00 AM	#24 (permalink)
itch vaccine Psycho Location: on my spinning computer chair	Yeah right Rawb :P __________________ "When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, it seems like two minutes. When you sit on a hot stove for two minutes, it seems like two hours. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

07-23-2005, 02:19 PM	#25 (permalink)
aKula Psycho	Nah that cheat actually works in windows XP. Using it you can peform 'magic' by flagging all the mines without even opening a single square.

07-24-2005, 08:39 PM	#26 (permalink)
optik_nerve Psycho Location: Florida	I've never understood the concept of Minesweeper. I just went for it.

07-30-2005, 05:48 AM	#28 (permalink)
Slavakion Mjollnir Incarnate Location: Lost in thought	The cheat is xyzzy (no caps necessary) and shift. The pixel will appear on top of whatever window/desktop is currently in the background. The game actually lets you record high scores with this.