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Old 11-19-2004, 10:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but apparently Google has started a new 'add-on', I guess you would say, to, well, Google. It's suppose to separate "Scholarly" texts, and what have you from the mainstream commercial sites that Google is known for picking up first in its searches.

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Although Google already had been indexing the reams of academic research online, the company hadn't been able to separate the scholarly content from commercial Web sites.

By focusing on the citations contained in academic papers, Google also engineered its new system to provide a list of potentially helpful material available at libraries and other offline sources.

The scholarly search effort continues Google's effort to probe even deeper into content available online and offline. Last month, Google expanded a program that invites publishers to scan their books into the search engine's index, enabling people to peek at the contents online before deciding whether to buy a copy.
If you want to read the full jobbie, go http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6520633/

It seems like an interesting concept, and I've been testing it out a little bit, but it seems to pick up very abstract results, especially if you're search scientific stuff, like, the planet Jupiter. :P But it does say it's a beta. http://scholar.google.com
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Old 11-19-2004, 10:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I tried it for the first time yesterday, for some work-related technical questions, and I like it a lot so far. I hope that lots of places open their backfiles to Google.
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Old 11-19-2004, 11:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That is a BRILLIANT idea.

I can imagine this becoming VERY helpful in the future.
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Old 11-19-2004, 11:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Until some scam-merchants find a way to enter their adverisments for porn, viagra and breast enlargement into the academic pool...
 
Old 11-19-2004, 12:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just tried it using the topic of a current paper. I didn't look too indepth, but it looks pretty good.
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not bad, not bad. Love that companies are taking a step in the right direction.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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sometimes I just like to poke around the inet looking for 'brainy' stuff, so this could be very cool.
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Old 11-22-2004, 04:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This looks like it has some potential, thanks for the heads up!
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yes! Hearkens back to results of the late 90's, before search engine manipulation made non-product searches difficult. A lot of people have wanted this.

At the same time, I agree with earlier posts that it'll be a target. Ad-free zones are so much cat-nip to scammers.
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Old 12-04-2004, 10:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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This web search service has done wonders for my senior thesis research. Sticky this topic!
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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When I first started using google, one of the biggest reasons was because it returned relevent content for my search phrases. I think that has changed over time. SPAM and finding ways to beat the SPAM has really hindred the services they provide. I think this service will help get the tech/educational crowd back.

Part of me wants to say "Is google throwing too many darts at the wall to try to stay ahead?". Have they lost the focus since the pre-adsense days?
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I have always wanted to find stuff for school online

Thank loads for the heads up
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Wow, that's great...too bad I didn't know about it before all my term papers and everything...sigh. But it will come in handy next term, I'm sure.
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Old 12-05-2004, 03:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It seems like a great idea, however most of the articles / pdf files require subscriptions and often with little or no abstract to preview. It would be great if google could separate the free articles from the ones you have to pay for.
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Google Scholar being sued by ACS Scifinder Scholar

I read yesterday that ACS is sueing Google over the use of the word Scholar in their literature search site. The link is included below:

But I digress, I have been a user of Scifinder Scholar 2003-2004 for the past 3 years. The software has utilities for chemical structure and keyword searching which is useful in my chemical research. However, our institution only has 5 user licenses, so for a large research institution it is a pain to keep logging off to share resources and is not conducive to my research needs. This is where "web of science" (another really good, high cost, subscription literature search site) and Google Scholar come in to the equation. At our university the leased ip address information grants full text permissions to all e-journals in the schools subscription list. So, the job of finding relevant literature abstracts has been greatly simplified with the new Google site. I commend the researchers at Google for creating this outstanding product. I hope it helps to release the stranglehold imposed by the major scientific journal publishers on the advancement of an open access journal publication system.

Slashdot Reference:

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?s...id=123&tid=146

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Old 12-15-2004, 11:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks for the link. Will no doubt be of use next year at uni!
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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just checked it out real quick. it's alright... i guess. Very good for research in depth papers, but not good when you need just quick historical informational stuff. Also if you try to put in a name it mostly comes up with authors rather than the more famous person you're looking for, for example when I typed in Rydberg, came up with pretty random stuff.
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Old 12-16-2004, 05:42 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I think its pretty slick! google has definately pushed the envelope when it comes to search engines. They have some excellent technology and this just proves that they are here to stay! I really like this new feature.
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Old 12-16-2004, 04:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The wave of the future fo sho. That's my $0.02
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