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itch vaccine · 11-12-2004, 06:37 AM

Does milk really encourage a good night's sleep? Or is it just a myth. If it's true how does it work?

aaand, how do you say milk? :P
mlk, maelk, melk ?

asaris · 11-12-2004, 09:48 AM

Melk. And I don't know...

Ripsaw · 11-12-2004, 10:28 AM

Mmm-ill-ck.

And it encourages sleep by introducing the amino acid tryptophan. It acts as a natural sedative. It is also contained in turkey, so if you're having a traditional Thanksgiving dinner, eat your turkey last.

runtuff · 11-12-2004, 11:11 AM

Yep, milk and turkey put you to sleep. Warm milk especially before bed!

WillyPete · 11-12-2004, 11:25 AM

Well, think of the warm drinks you can have?

Milk.
Hot choc: full of sugar
Coffee: caffeine
Tea: some caffeine.

the warmth will provide some help in making you comfortable, but I'd also venture that it's more of a 'less caffeine/sugar' thing than the other options.

Maybe there's a psychological thing attached to it from when you were an infant and the association with a warm bottle of milk at night and associated feelings of comfort. & safety

Slavakion · 11-12-2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WillyPete

Hot choc: full of sugar
Tea: some caffeine.

Milk contains sugar as well. Lactose. While it may be less than a cupful of watered-down melted chocolate...

And herbal tea has no caffeine.

EDIT: and it's pronounced milk. With an I. As in the word mill with a k. Or milf with a k.

asaris · 11-12-2004, 12:19 PM

milfk? That's kinda hard to pronounce.

VitaminH · 11-12-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by asaris

milfk? That's kinda hard to pronounce.

Beat me to it

I say melk. "Elk" with an M in front.

itch vaccine · 11-13-2004, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WillyPete

Well, think of the warm drinks you can have?

Milk.
Hot choc: full of sugar
Coffee: caffeine
Tea: some caffeine.

the warmth will provide some help in making you comfortable, but I'd also venture that it's more of a 'less caffeine/sugar' thing than the other options.

Maybe there's a psychological thing attached to it from when you were an infant and the association with a warm bottle of milk at night and associated feelings of comfort. & safety

LoL at the psychological thing

I got more responses over how to pronounce milk than why milk helps promote good sleep.

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Originally Posted by Ripsaw

Mmm-ill-ck.

And it encourages sleep by introducing the amino acid tryptophan. It acts as a natural sedative. It is also contained in turkey, so if you're having a traditional Thanksgiving dinner, eat your turkey last.

Thanks for this reply, I tried milk once and it didn't really differ from any other night, perhaps I should hit the sack immediately

I'll try it again soon .. now that I know it really works.

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Originally Posted by Slavakion

it's pronounced milk. With an I. As in the word mill with a k. Or milf with a k.

heh, thanks for the pronounciation key :P

Slavakion · 11-13-2004, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by itch vaccine

heh, thanks for the pronounciation key :P

Oh, you're quite welcome.

I suppose I'll take a stab at the "sleepy" thing.

Whenever I drink something warm, it gives me a sense of happy and comfort. And by warm I don't mean room temperature. I think that if you drank other warm liquids they would have a similar effect, but milk is usually readily available .
The problem is that other drinks like tea and coffee have stronger "non-relaxing" tastes and have caffeine. Plus milk has tryptophan I guess (thanks Ripsaw).

If you really need to find a way to fall asleep faster, try not doing anything an hour before bed. Just let the TV kill a few brain cells, or read a book. Keep the room cool (if possible), and make sure you get rid of all your stress.

itch vaccine · 11-13-2004, 08:54 AM

"get rid of all your stress"

ha, it'll never happen.
Exam season. Prolly why I brought up this "milk topic"

thanks for the sleeping tips.
I found some nice Chillout music too

[Ministry of Sound, Cafe del Mar, Buddha Bar..]

stevie667 · 11-13-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itch vaccine

Does milk really encourage a good night's sleep? Or is it just a myth. If it's true how does it work?

aaand, how do you say milk? :P
mlk, maelk, melk ?

I've always found a cup of warm milk to get me right to sleep, but it's not to everyones tastes.

I say it phonetically

itch vaccine · 11-15-2004, 03:38 AM

Oh another question

does cold milk work as well? to encourage sleep?

Slavakion · 11-15-2004, 03:43 AM

I would say no, because cold things don't tend to relax you.

jwoody · 11-15-2004, 04:36 AM

Rather than start a new thread, I'll pose my milk question in this one...

When I first drank skimmed milk my first thought was "this just tastes like watered down milk." So I tried watering some full cream milk and found that the taste was almost identical to skimmed milk.

My question is; What is taken from milk when it is skimmed?

...and why don't people just buy normal milk and dilute it?

WillyPete · 11-15-2004, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by itch vaccine

"get rid of all your stress"

That's the best way I've ever heard of referring to having a wank

Jwoody, they let the cream float to the top and 'skim' it off, although I'm sure the technique is a lot different and more efficient now.

If you can't tell the difference, try and get hold of some full cream organic, fresh from a cow milk.
THEN you'll see a difference.
Full cream milk from a store is still a lot lower in cream content than real fresh milk. They only have enough cream content to meet the minimum standards to call it full cream or whole milk.

Cowman · 11-15-2004, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jwoody

Rather than start a new thread, I'll pose my milk question in this one...

When I first drank skimmed milk my first thought was "this just tastes like watered down milk." So I tried watering some full cream milk and found that the taste was almost identical to skimmed milk.

My question is; What is taken from milk when it is skimmed?

...and why don't people just buy normal milk and dilute it?

well..the point of skimmed milk for most of us is that "normal", that is 2 percent I guess, milk has a lot of fat in it, some of which is saturated. if you drink a lot of milk like I do (5-6 glasses a day), that really starts to add up. by drinking skim milk instead, you can get the carbs/protein from it without worrying about the saturated fat.

so ya
its not a taste thing for many people

Slavakion · 11-15-2004, 06:44 PM

Everything you ever wanted to know about types of milk. Source

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WHOLE MILK. With 150 calories and 8 grams of milk fat in an 8-ounce glass.

TWO PERCENT MILK Soon to be called Reduced Fat, 2 percent milk has 120 calories and 5 grams of fat in an 8-ounce glass. Two percent of the weight is milk fat.

ONE PERCENT MILK Soon to be called Light or Lite, 1 percent milk has 100 calories and 2.5 grams of fat in an 8-ounce glass. One percent of the weight is milk fat.

SKIM OR FAT-FREE MILK This milk has 80 calories in an 8-ounce glass and is less than 0.5 percent milk fat by weight.

FORTIFIED MILK All milk has been fortified with vitamins A and D since the 1920s. You can now find milk enriched with vitamin E, extra calcium and nonfat milk solids.

Skim milks fortified with vegetable-based fibers supply the mouth-feel of milk, but not the calories, of fat were introduced this year under the names Skim Delux and Replace.

CULTURED BUTTERMILK Almost always made from skim milk, cultured buttermilk gets its acidity, body and aroma from a bacterial culture. The calories and fat are the same as in skim milk, but the amount of sodium may be higher since salt is often added for flavor.

It has 99 calories and 2 grams of fat in an 8-ounce glass. (Dried buttermilk can be found in health-food stores.)

CHOCOLATE MILK Prepackaged chocolate milk is milk to which chocolate flavoring or sweetened cocoa has been added, often along with vanilla extract and stabilizers. One percent chocolate milk has roughly 160 calories and 2.5 grams of fat in an 8-ounce glass.

FLAVORED MILK Besides blueberry, strawberry and banana there are now chocolate peanut butter, chocolate marshmallow and root beer in all the varieties from whole to skim. There are shakes and flavored sport drinks are flavored milks for teenagers and lattes for adults.

EGGNOG Milk flavored with cream, eggs, sugar and, often, rum extract, vanilla and nutmeg is sold at holiday time. Eggnog sold in the supermarket contains no alcohol, but homemade often contains rum or brandy.

LACTOSE-FREE MILK This cow's milk is treated with the enzyme lactase that controls the milk sugar lactose, which some people find hard to digest. Reduced-lactose milk contains only 30 percent of the usual lactose concentration.

SWEET ACIDOPHILUS MILK This is milk with lactobacillus acidophilus bacteria added, which reportedly aid digestion.

LOW-SODIUM MILK Eighty percent of the sodium has been removed, leaving less than 25 milligrams per glass.

NONDAIRY MILK These substitutes include rice, soy and almond milk. These do not contain calcium unless fortified with it.

SHEEP'S AND GOAT'S MILK These milks contain the same nutrients as cow's milk but are higher in fat and slightly higher in calcium.

ORGANIC MILK Organic milk comes from cows that have not been treated with antibiotics or hormones and have been given feed that's free from chemicals or pesticides.

KEFIR This is lightly fermented cow's milk. The alcohol from the fermentation-- about 2 1/2 percent-- gives it a slightly sour taste.

SHELF-STABLE MILK You won't find it in the dairy case, and that's the point. Shelf-stable or UHT (ultra-high temperature) milk can be found on supermarket shelves. Once opened, it must be refrigerated.

EVAPORATED MILK Evaporate the water from whole milk under vacuum pressure until the volume is reduced by half, homogenize it, fortify it with vitamin D, can it and heat-sterilize it. You now have evaporated milk. A 4-ounce glass has 169 calories and 10 grams of fat.

EVAPORATED SKIM MILK Is made in the same way, but starts with skim milk. A 4-ounce glass has 99 calories and less than .5 grams of fat.

SWEETENED CONDENSED MILK This sweetened, canned whole-milk concentrate is made the same way as evaporated milk. Sweetened condensed milk contains 491 calories and 13 grams of fat in a 4-ounce glass and is used mainly in baked goods and desserts.

POWDERED OR DRY MILK These dried milk granules which can be reconstituted with water or used dry to fortify doughs and meat mixtures.

Daoust · 11-23-2004, 06:59 AM

M-ill-k
I know people who say Melk and it drives me nuts.

WillyPete · 11-23-2004, 09:28 AM

Melk is the dutch translation.

Milch if you're german.

Lait if you're french.

rowka · 12-12-2004, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripsaw

And it encourages sleep by introducing the amino acid tryptophan. It acts as a natural sedative.

I have recently learned there are antidotes to tryptophan:
Trip to Hawaii
Trip to Bahamas
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11-12-2004, 06:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
itch vaccine Psycho Location: on my spinning computer chair	Milk.. Does milk really encourage a good night's sleep? Or is it just a myth. If it's true how does it work? aaand, how do you say milk? :P mlk, maelk, melk ?

11-12-2004, 09:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
asaris Mad Philosopher Location: Washington, DC	Melk. And I don't know... __________________ "Die Deutschen meinen, daß die Kraft sich in Härte und Grausamkeit offenbaren müsse, sie unterwerfen sich dann gerne und mit Bewunderung:[...]. Daß es Kraft giebt in der Milde und Stille, das glauben sie nicht leicht." "The Germans believe that power must reveal itself in hardness and cruelty and then submit themselves gladly and with admiration[...]. They do not believe readily that there is power in meekness and calm." -- Friedrich Nietzsche

11-12-2004, 10:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ripsaw Chef in Training	Mmm-ill-ck. And it encourages sleep by introducing the amino acid tryptophan. It acts as a natural sedative. It is also contained in turkey, so if you're having a traditional Thanksgiving dinner, eat your turkey last. __________________ "We are supposed to be masters of space, but we cant even line up our shoes?" One life, one chance, one opportunity.

11-12-2004, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
asaris Mad Philosopher Location: Washington, DC	milfk? That's kinda hard to pronounce. __________________ "Die Deutschen meinen, daß die Kraft sich in Härte und Grausamkeit offenbaren müsse, sie unterwerfen sich dann gerne und mit Bewunderung:[...]. Daß es Kraft giebt in der Milde und Stille, das glauben sie nicht leicht." "The Germans believe that power must reveal itself in hardness and cruelty and then submit themselves gladly and with admiration[...]. They do not believe readily that there is power in meekness and calm." -- Friedrich Nietzsche

11-23-2004, 06:59 AM	#19 (permalink)
Daoust "I'm sorry. What was the question?" Location: Paradise Regained	M-ill-k I know people who say Melk and it drives me nuts. __________________ I have faith in a few things - divinity and grace But even when I'm on my knees I know the devil preys

11-12-2004, 11:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
runtuff Crazy	Yep, milk and turkey put you to sleep. Warm milk especially before bed!

11-12-2004, 11:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	Well, think of the warm drinks you can have? Milk. Hot choc: full of sugar Coffee: caffeine Tea: some caffeine. the warmth will provide some help in making you comfortable, but I'd also venture that it's more of a 'less caffeine/sugar' thing than the other options. Maybe there's a psychological thing attached to it from when you were an infant and the association with a warm bottle of milk at night and associated feelings of comfort. & safety

11-13-2004, 08:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
itch vaccine Psycho Location: on my spinning computer chair	"get rid of all your stress" ha, it'll never happen. Exam season. Prolly why I brought up this "milk topic" thanks for the sleeping tips. I found some nice Chillout music too [Ministry of Sound, Cafe del Mar, Buddha Bar..]

11-15-2004, 03:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
itch vaccine Psycho Location: on my spinning computer chair	Oh another question does cold milk work as well? to encourage sleep?

11-15-2004, 03:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
Slavakion Mjollnir Incarnate Location: Lost in thought	I would say no, because cold things don't tend to relax you.

11-15-2004, 04:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	Rather than start a new thread, I'll pose my milk question in this one... When I first drank skimmed milk my first thought was "this just tastes like watered down milk." So I tried watering some full cream milk and found that the taste was almost identical to skimmed milk. My question is; What is taken from milk when it is skimmed? ...and why don't people just buy normal milk and dilute it?

11-23-2004, 09:28 AM	#20 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	Melk is the dutch translation. Milch if you're german. Lait if you're french.