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shadrock 09-01-2004 02:44 AM

pergo floor is bubbling up
 
I have pergo flooring in my condo which is bubbling up in a spot. I need to get under it an glue it back down. Any recomendations on what glue to use? How to peel it all the way off without damaging it? Thanks!

clavus 09-01-2004 07:58 AM

If it is Pergo, it is probably not glued down. It is a floating floor. If it is bubleing up, then the most likely causes include
- water damage has caused some pieces to swell
- improper installation

If the floor is more than 3-4 years old, it is likely that the pieces are glued together (rather than snapped together). If this is the case, the only solution I see is actually cutting out the damaged section, and replacing it. If it is near one edge, you may be able to buy a box of pergo and rebuild that edge. If it's in the middle of the floor...well, it sucks to be you.

Figure out what kind of floor you have, and go to Home Despot. Take a look at what they have and figure out how the floor is put together before you take it apart.

Best of luck.

edmos1 09-01-2004 08:23 AM

also realize you should check the match, although pergo is pretty consistent, buying a box from somewhere else, may look a little different. matching colors can be difficult

Cynthetiq 09-01-2004 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clavus
If it is Pergo, it is probably not glued down. It is a floating floor. If it is bubleing up, then the most likely causes include
- water damage has caused some pieces to swell
- improper installation

If the floor is more than 3-4 years old, it is likely that the pieces are glued together (rather than snapped together). If this is the case, the only solution I see is actually cutting out the damaged section, and replacing it. If it is near one edge, you may be able to buy a box of pergo and rebuild that edge. If it's in the middle of the floor...well, it sucks to be you.

Figure out what kind of floor you have, and go to Home Despot. Take a look at what they have and figure out how the floor is put together before you take it apart.

Best of luck.

aaah darn.. as soon as I saw clavus' reply to this I thought.. there's going to be something about a butthole in his pergo floor that he had to stare at while he was naked and locked out of his house...

and yes, clavus is right... Home Depot is a better resource since you'll be able to touch the item and construct and deconstruct the pieces.

james t kirk 09-01-2004 05:21 PM

screw that, be a man, buy some real hardwood

Cynthetiq 09-01-2004 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james t kirk
screw that, be a man, buy some real hardwood

and that helps him how???? by costing him thousands of dollars and replace the WHOLE floor?

shakran 09-01-2004 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
and that helps him how???? by costing him thousands of dollars and replace the WHOLE floor?

as well as installing a product that gets damaged much more easilly ;)

however if you do have to take up the floor and reinstall with new, look at Diamondplate. They've come out with stuff that beats the HELL outa what Pergo has now.

ezekial@atl 09-01-2004 10:18 PM

i recently repaired a pergo floor for my wifes aunt, same problem, it was due to improper installation,
it was cut to tightly against the walls. however whoever installed it the first go around , didnt stagger the joints(as to avoid buckeling) and to give it a seamless look, so you could see, the individual boards , every 3 feet or so, and they forgot to square it up. so it looked crooked acording to their furniture.
I am in flooring, but i mostly stick with tile and stone, but i've done my share of hardwood ,and laminate, i try to stay(and steer) away from pergo . and also has anyone seen, or installed that crap they are hocking at lowes now, the pre-assembled tile flooring, it looks to me like it would do the bubble thing also

shakran 09-01-2004 10:28 PM

i played with some of that preassembled tile stuff - I assume you're talking about the tile-look laminate? They sell that at Depot and Menards too now. I can't say I was overly impressed. In the first place it's packaged stupidly, virtually guaranteeing that 1 of the 8 sections will be dama ged. Second, it looks like someone painted a picture of a tile onto plywood which, surprise!, is exactly what they did. And third, it does NOT snap together nicely at all, which virtually guarantees that you'll break 2 or 3 of the 7 remaining sections.

clavus 09-02-2004 11:06 AM

While we are on the subject - Wilsonart kicks the crap out of Pergo in terms of quality, and sometimes you can get it for less than Pergo. If you go to a floor store (instead of one of those building whorehouse...er...warehouse type stores) you can find better deals on flooring.

This thread reminds me of the time I had to install flooring while I was naked and staring at Cynthetiq's butthole...

shadrock 09-02-2004 02:15 PM

Thanks for the responses.

I just moved into the condo. The pergo flooring in one of many home improvement projects that looked pretty good to the eye during walkthroughs, but once living there I see what shoddy work was done.

The pergo was not staggered at all. Luckily the person who did it also did not know how to measure it and left a bunch of extra boxes of the stuff in a closet. I am hoping it is as you said, just too snug against the wall. We'll see what I can do.

I would prefer hardwood, but

the condo association will not allow it.

ezekial@atl 09-03-2004 11:08 AM

yeah , thats the stuff i was talking about shakran, it's not even plywood , as a matter of fact it's not even hardibacker, the thing that really kils me is the "easy cheese" style grout cans, i mean if i had to grout every floor that i laid with that method, i would be in inverted traction ,to straighten out my back,from bending over so much.
as far as pricing , it doesnt seem to be any cheaper, i.e. the damaged ones you are stuck with,and the fact that its not stuck to the floor,leads me to believe that just about anyhting hard that weighs at least a pound would crack ,or scallop it. not to mention all the maintenece the grout will require.
and shadrock, will they allow tile, or is it basically , the pergo stays, and thats that?

shakran 09-03-2004 02:19 PM

I take it you bought this condo since you have to fix the floor?

Your condo association tells you that you can't install certain materials INSIDE a condo that you own?

I'd tell 'em to cram it.

With the laminate tile, if you can get it down without breaking it, you're usually OK. You're installing it over a dense foam underlayment, and the subfloor/underlayment will support and cushion the laminate. Cracking isn't a problem with floating floors, but buckling is. You gotta remember that it's a floating floor and as such cannot touch the borders of the room. 1/4" from the edges.

kazoo 09-05-2004 09:02 PM

Forgive me if I'm dense. When I read the OP, I was thinking that the floor pieces are staying flat, but the HPL has separated from one piece of flooring. Is this the case or is a buckle, not a bubble the problem? :thumb in ass smiley:

MXL 09-07-2004 09:50 AM

I have Pergo in my basement, and I had a little water get in near the door, through some cracked caulk. It bowed up, from the water damage, so I what I did was drilled 5 notches under the trim at the door. Then I drilled the cement floor and installed anchors. I then put washers on the screws, and used them to put the floor down (not too tight). The notches with washers allow the floor to float, and still hold the bowed section down. The trim covers up the screw and I have a mat at the door anyways, to cover the slight imperfection.


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