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happymaan · 06-13-2004, 08:33 PM

I built a light using 54 of this http://www.superbrightleds.com/leds/w4_specs.htm. It's powered from a 7.2 volt power supply, with each set of two LED's wired in series. It works pretty well.

I want to try to make a bigger one, something I would love to add is the ability to dim the lights, does anyone know how to go about doing that?

Also, what do you think of these LED's a white 5600 kelvin color temperature is my ultimate goal. But $1.50 a bulb is pretty pricey.

-happymaan

Yakk · 06-14-2004, 05:54 AM

LED's don't dim well (or so I've heard, and at least one of those pretty graphs seems to back me up). You could simply turn on fewer LEDs for a dimmer light?

TIO · 06-14-2004, 11:50 AM

The graphs show that they will dim, you just need to be careful about it. Make sure you're only varying the voltage through a very low range, and you should be right. Just do the calculations, and bang a (small) rheostat in series with a (possibly smaller) resistor in series with the lights so that the voltage dump across the lights ranges from about 3.4-3.8V, and bob's your father's brother.

Yakk · 06-14-2004, 12:06 PM

http://www.cpemma.co.uk/dimleds.html

Ayep, looks like you are right TIO.

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Dimming LEDs

Adding some indicator lights to the Diobus design has been covered, but you can add illumination to any fan controller in various ways. One wish might be to vary a led brightness as the fan voltage is turned up or down.

Dimming leds isn't as straightforward as with filament bulbs, which glow because of their high temperature, and rapidly fade as this goes down. The eye has a non-linear response to light, and can see a wide range of dim objects but a much narrower range of bright ones, so subtlety is not on.

Say a 2v led was running at 12v with a series resistor of 1k, giving a 10mA forward current. (If = (Vs - Vf)/R)

Reducing the voltage to 6v would reduce the forward current to 4mA. The change in brightness would not be major.

A trick to getting a bright led at 12v and a dim one at 6v is to raise the forward voltage by adding ordinary silicon diodes (eg 1N4001, 1N4148, etc.) in series with the led. Each led adds about 0.6v at these current levels.

So with a 2v led, adding 6 diodes makes the Vf about 5.6v. A 620R series resistor will give 10.3mA at 12v, but only 0.65mA at 6v. Major difference!

Try various numbers of diodes to get the effect you want. In practice you can usually add an extra diode or two on top of the calculated number, as the 0.6v diode Vf goes considerably lower than this at very low currents, as does the Vf of the led.

And don't start with highish currents at the 12v setting or you'll have to turn down a fair way before you start to see any apparent change in brightness. 5-10mA is ample.

The finished string is connected across the controller output in parallel with the fan power leads.

06-13-2004, 08:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
happymaan Insane Location: los angeles	Help with LED's I built a light using 54 of this http://www.superbrightleds.com/leds/w4_specs.htm. It's powered from a 7.2 volt power supply, with each set of two LED's wired in series. It works pretty well. I want to try to make a bigger one, something I would love to add is the ability to dim the lights, does anyone know how to go about doing that? Also, what do you think of these LED's a white 5600 kelvin color temperature is my ultimate goal. But $1.50 a bulb is pretty pricey. -happymaan

06-14-2004, 05:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Yakk Wehret Den Anfängen! Location: Ontario, Canada	LED's don't dim well (or so I've heard, and at least one of those pretty graphs seems to back me up). You could simply turn on fewer LEDs for a dimmer light? __________________ Last edited by JHVH : 10-29-4004 BC at 09:00 PM. Reason: Time for a rest.

06-14-2004, 11:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
TIO Addict Location: The Land Down Under	The graphs show that they will dim, you just need to be careful about it. Make sure you're only varying the voltage through a very low range, and you should be right. Just do the calculations, and bang a (small) rheostat in series with a (possibly smaller) resistor in series with the lights so that the voltage dump across the lights ranges from about 3.4-3.8V, and bob's your father's brother. __________________ Strewth