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jobu · 04-30-2004, 07:45 AM

I have always seen this associated with the marines but i have no idea what it means. Can anyone help me out?

Pragma · 04-30-2004, 09:12 AM

Semper Fi (not Phi) or Semper Fidelis is Latin.

It means "Always Faithful" and is the motto of the Marine Corps.

nash · 04-30-2004, 10:46 AM

It's not what you're asking, but:

phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2

Phi is the golden ratio, associated with the Fibonacci sequence. Google it for an interesting read.

jobu · 04-30-2004, 11:25 AM

wow! ask one quesiton and get an answer for something completely different. very cool thanks. no wonder why i couldn't find any info on it. maybe next time i should spell correctly. anyway thanks again.

Giltwist · 04-30-2004, 12:56 PM

phi (the golden ratio) can also be expressed as the continued root

phi=sqrt(1+sqrt(1+sqrt(1+sqrt(1...)

platypus · 04-30-2004, 05:35 PM

Semper Pie.

Always Yummy!

platypus · 04-30-2004, 05:44 PM

Semper Pi

Always Irrational

H12 · 05-03-2004, 07:50 PM

Any fan of Metal Gear Solid 2 could have told ya that. =P

Pragma · 05-03-2004, 08:00 PM

Quite true.

"Who dares, wins."

thejoker130 · 05-05-2004, 08:55 AM

Semper fidelus is the full phrase

They shortend it because if your smart enough to find your way to the recruiting station youre smart enough to be a marine
humourisly enough my dad told me that, a marine supply sergeant during vietnam

Stompy · 05-05-2004, 09:12 AM

MGS2 was HORRIBLE in the use for that.

Like with Snake suddenly yelling "Semper Fi!!!" as if people wouldn't say "Hey.. only marines say that!" It was SO out of place..

He might as well have come out and said, "HEY GUYS, I'M SNAKE!"

Pragma · 05-05-2004, 11:26 AM

Agreed, stompy - because obviously a Navy SEAL Lieutenant would use the catchphrase of the Marine Corps...

onetime2 · 05-06-2004, 05:38 AM

Well, building on the theme of slightly altering the Marine motto...

Semper Lie:

http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/arti...alsemarine.htm

Quote:

Phony Marine crashes funeral
By Eugene Mulero, Daily Record

Walter K. Carlson has never served in the military, but that didn't stop him from wearing a Marine dress uniform decorated with two dozen medals at a funeral for a Morris County Marine officer on Wednesday.

That is the charge filed against the Summit man by the FBI.

Carlson, 58, was summoned to appear today at 2:30 p.m. at U.S. District Court in Newark before Judge Ronald J. Hedges on charges of illegally wearing military awards at the funeral of Marine Lt. John Thomas "J.T." Wroblewski at Our Lady of the Mountain Church in Washington Township. Wroblewski, 25, who grew up in Jefferson, is Morris County's first fatality in the Iraq war. He will be buried today at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia.

FBI agent Thomas A. Cottone, who was at the funeral, said that Carlson was at the funeral wearing a Marine Corps dress uniform with 24 medals. The uniform bore insignias indicating rank of captain.

"When I saw him wearing those medals, I knew right away what he was doing," said Cottone, who specializes in apprehending people who illegally wear military awards, particularly Congressional Medals of Honor.

Cottone, a parishioner at Our Lady of the Mountain Church, said Carlson first claimed to have earned the medals but later admitted that he had never served in the military.

"I know about 90 percent of all highly decorated officers in the state, and I didn't recognize him," Cottone said.

According to Carlson, who spoke with the Daily Record by phone Thursday, he attended the funeral to personally feel respected and also to honor Wroblewski. He admitted to dressing up as a Marine on almost a dozen other times prior to the funeral. Carlson said he had attended Veterans Day and Memorial Day events in Morris County.

"I did this for myself, nobody else. I always wanted to be in the Marines. I knew one day I would get caught," Carlson said, from his home during the phone interview. "Growing up I was picked on."

Carlson said he never had a psychiatric evaluation, but takes medication for his diabetes. He has lived in Summit almost all his life and works in Dover.

Carlson said a friend who is a veteran gave him access to a military store where he could purchase Marine uniforms and medals.

Agent Cottone explained that common reasons why people decide to impersonate military officers is to impress others, financial gain or because they always wanted to be in the military.

"People who wear these medals falsely do a great disservice to those who earned them. Many Marines have died to serve our country and rightly earn their awards posthumously," Cottone said.

Cottone was made an honorary Marine by the Commandant of the Corps for his work. Cottone is also the FBI's national case agent for investigations into illegal wearing of military awards, he said.

Peetster · 05-06-2004, 05:43 AM

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Cottone, who specializes in apprehending people who illegally wear military awards

Weird hobby...

Pragma · 05-06-2004, 05:56 AM

Disgraceful that people feel the need to pretend to be in the military to impress others. And it is a pretty big federal crime to pretend to be an officer when you're not, so I guess I can understand why the FBI has people set up just to catch them.

jobu · 05-07-2004, 01:31 PM

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Cottone, who specializes in apprehending people who illegally wear military awards, particularly Congressional Medals of Honor.

i thought it was pretty weird too. i guess i didn't realize that so many people were out there impersonating soldiers

Pragma · 05-07-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by jobu
i thought it was pretty weird too. i guess i didn't realize that so many people were out there impersonating soldiers

Well, the primary benefit - at least in times of war - is the respect that you're given as a member of the military, including getting breaks from cops (on speeding tickets), etc.

However, if they can get a fake military ID, having access to a PX and/or commisary is invaluable - no tax, very cheap prices, wide range of items.

HamiC · 05-08-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Pragma
Disgraceful that people feel the need to pretend to be in the military to impress others. And it is a pretty big federal crime to pretend to be an officer when you're not, so I guess I can understand why the FBI has people set up just to catch them.

....and sad.

It doesn't excuse what the guy did, but I feel sorry for him that this was the best way he could come up with to deal with his feelings. You have to be pretty down on yourself to pretend you are someone (or something) else to get respect/attention.

BrotherOfIdoit · 05-08-2004, 10:45 PM

seimper phi first to die

Pragma · 05-09-2004, 08:21 AM

Semper Fi, not Phi. Phi is pronounced "fee".

gorilla · 05-12-2004, 05:28 PM

Semper Fi, do or die, gun-ho, gun-ho!

gonadman · 05-12-2004, 06:08 PM

What do you think the odds are that a marine wannabe loser who wears fake medals just happens to be at an affair which is attended by someone who specializes in apprehending people who wear fake medals? Thats gotta be a longshot!

tehhappyboy · 05-14-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by thejoker130
Semper fidelus is the full phrase

They shortend it because if your smart enough to find your way to the recruiting station youre smart enough to be a marine
humourisly enough my dad told me that, a marine supply sergeant during vietnam

Fidelis, not fidelus. Remeber to conjugate your latin properly people!

04-30-2004, 07:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
jobu Crazy	Semper Phi? I have always seen this associated with the marines but i have no idea what it means. Can anyone help me out?

04-30-2004, 09:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Semper Fi (not Phi) or Semper Fidelis is Latin. It means "Always Faithful" and is the motto of the Marine Corps. __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

04-30-2004, 05:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
platypus Essen meine kurze Hosen Location: NY Burbs	Semper Pie. Always Yummy! __________________ Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net.

04-30-2004, 05:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
platypus Essen meine kurze Hosen Location: NY Burbs	Semper Pi Always Irrational __________________ Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net.

05-03-2004, 07:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
H12 I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning! Location: K-Town, TN	Any fan of Metal Gear Solid 2 could have told ya that. =P __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit." --Aristotle

04-30-2004, 10:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
nash Psycho	It's not what you're asking, but: phi = (1+sqrt(5))/2 Phi is the golden ratio, associated with the Fibonacci sequence. Google it for an interesting read.

04-30-2004, 11:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
jobu Crazy	wow! ask one quesiton and get an answer for something completely different. very cool thanks. no wonder why i couldn't find any info on it. maybe next time i should spell correctly. anyway thanks again.

04-30-2004, 12:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Giltwist Insane Location: Pennsylvania	phi (the golden ratio) can also be expressed as the continued root phi=sqrt(1+sqrt(1+sqrt(1+sqrt(1...)

05-03-2004, 08:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Quite true. "Who dares, wins." __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

05-05-2004, 08:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
thejoker130 Insane Location: slippery rock university AKA: The left ass cheek of the world	Semper fidelus is the full phrase They shortend it because if your smart enough to find your way to the recruiting station youre smart enough to be a marine humourisly enough my dad told me that, a marine supply sergeant during vietnam __________________ WHAT MORE CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN? ------------------------------------- I like you. When the world is mine your death will be quick and painless.

05-05-2004, 09:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	MGS2 was HORRIBLE in the use for that. Like with Snake suddenly yelling "Semper Fi!!!" as if people wouldn't say "Hey.. only marines say that!" It was SO out of place.. He might as well have come out and said, "HEY GUYS, I'M SNAKE!" __________________ I love lamp.

05-05-2004, 11:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Agreed, stompy - because obviously a Navy SEAL Lieutenant would use the catchphrase of the Marine Corps... __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

05-06-2004, 05:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Disgraceful that people feel the need to pretend to be in the military to impress others. And it is a pretty big federal crime to pretend to be an officer when you're not, so I guess I can understand why the FBI has people set up just to catch them. __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

05-08-2004, 10:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
BrotherOfIdoit Upright Location: Bay Area, CA	seimper phi first to die

05-09-2004, 08:21 AM	#20 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Semper Fi, not Phi. Phi is pronounced "fee". __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

05-12-2004, 05:28 PM	#21 (permalink)
gorilla Insane Location: USA	Semper Fi, do or die, gun-ho, gun-ho! __________________ I'll bet you $5 that you read the previous word...

05-12-2004, 06:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
gonadman Psycho Location: Philly	What do you think the odds are that a marine wannabe loser who wears fake medals just happens to be at an affair which is attended by someone who specializes in apprehending people who wear fake medals? Thats gotta be a longshot! __________________ For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length. And there I travel, looking, looking, ...breathlessly. -Carlos Castaneda