01-30-2011, 05:52 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Would you take a crack at it first? It would make a good reference point for the rest of us. It will help spur a discussion.
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Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot |
02-01-2011, 10:53 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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I started wondering about these concepts after watching this video: Turner Prize 2008 exhibition at Tate Britain, 30 September 2008 - 18 January 2009: Runa Islam
This artist seems to be saying that her artworks are for her real, concrete things and not existing as an idea in her mind. Could you say that a poem is real? That a stop sign is red is true. But what about a poem is true? Would a poet's authenticity and genuinely meaning what he/she is saying constitute for truth in a poem? And fact - Emerson writes, "time dissipates to shining ether the solid angularity of facts. No anchor, no cable, no fences, avail to keep a fact a fact." This quotation, for me, is referring to the inevitability of things. I interpret Emersons's quotation to mean that artworks appear, nilly-willy, nevertheless, regardless of any fences we may build. Could you say that the appearance of an artwork is a fact? |
02-02-2011, 09:01 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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from Cabinet magazine, issue 40: "A work of art possesses, according to Brandi, a dual nature: on the one hand, its existential reality (its thingness), and on the other, its pure reality (its bid to transcend that thingness). It is its measure of the latter, of course, that actually makes a given object a work of art. What art is (cue soundtrack of German idealism) is the mysterious/paradoxical/magnificent presence of transcendence in mere things. Made, but freed from their mere becoming by their reach for eternity, such objects exist in time (as objects) but also defy (as works of art) simply being pinned to that past on a timeline, since they possess a transhistorical power to present to a consciousness, in any given present, reality as such: call it "Consciousness" (or Spirit, or Geist, or whatever).
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