07-02-2003, 12:34 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Coon problem.
Here is the situation. I live near nature and love to see deer eat apples off my apple tree in my backyard along with birds and other wildlife. We have corn/birdseeds in a metal trashcan with a lid. The lid is on at all times. Well, this works against sqqurils but doesn't do much to stop a fisty Coon. So I need to know what I need to do to coon-proof my birdseed while still making it fairly easy for us Humans to get into it. This becomes really annoying when it tosses the lid to the ground with a clang at 3am. =( Thanks for help in advance.
Unfortunity living in town I can't shoot them. Last edited by freedomdowntime; 07-02-2003 at 12:54 AM.. |
07-02-2003, 12:39 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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Just shoot the coons.
If you have neighbors who might get edgy about the noise of a gunshot, you can get sub sonic ammunition from Aguila. You could also put a hinge and a latch on the lid.
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07-02-2003, 02:17 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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plastic trashcans with locking lids, or if you're really strapped for cash, a couple of bungees tightly wrapped across the lid of yoru metal trashcan should do the trick. it may take a few ounces more effort to undo the bungees every time you wanna open it, but it'll keep pesky critters from ransacking it in the early a.m.
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07-02-2003, 04:45 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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If they can, they'll try to tip it over to get into it if they can't get the lid open (speaking from experience). Btw I've seen them undo wire twist ties to undo a hasp while I was standing 10' away.
Something strong like a bungee should work. Unless they chew thru it. |
07-02-2003, 05:17 AM | #5 (permalink) | |
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Location: Australia, Perth
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OMG, this is so funny.
ok i am not sure what a coon is ( i imagine its a bird or another animal/rodent). However, in Australia Coon is a racist slur or term for describing one of our native indigenous people ie aboriginals (also they are dark skinned) So i was a little horrified at first at the topic, however now i realise what it is about, i think its pretty funny. eg Quote:
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07-02-2003, 06:26 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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For those of you living Down Under, it's a Racoon.
A nasty beastie that is very intelligent and quite comfortable living in an urban environment. A few were living in a huge dead tree in my backyard until I cut it down. They have since moved into the vacant lot next to me from whence they launch nightly raids on my trashcans. Although they often knock them over, the cans' locking lids stay shut. These bastards are huge and probably weigh 50-60 pounds. Woke up late one night to three of them brawling in the street out front. An unbelievable sight and sound. An uneasy truce now exists between me and these masked bandits. But I know they are watching me. Waiting for me to slip up, make a mistake...
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07-02-2003, 07:54 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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Dunno would it work for coons, but you could try marking the can with fox urine. I've heard of it working to keep squirrels away from trashcans, and whatnot.
You can get bottled fox urine in the hunting department of some department stores, if they cater to deer hunters. |
07-02-2003, 08:30 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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eh - installing a hasp and a three cylinder combo lock wouldn't be that hard, would it ? Especially considering you could just leave the first two numbers in place, spin the third in place, and voila, you're in.
I've got some of the aquila subsonic ammo for my .22 - probably wouldn't kill a coon, but it'd piss it off. If you're going to try something like that, make sure to use a bolt action gun - it won't cycle a semi-auto and you lose velocity from it actually trying to cycle. |
07-02-2003, 12:12 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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Get a live trap...then you can relocated them.....but more might come back.... They way we kill coons in wisconsin...(called cooning) is to chase them down with a bat and beat them to death)
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07-02-2003, 01:38 PM | #10 (permalink) | ||
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hahahahahahahahaha!!!! i was thinking the same thing. here in the states it's a racial slur for black people, albeit a bit of an older one (slur, not black person). people are saying get a plastic locking lid, and i'm thinking "do you really think a black person is so dumb that they couldn't open that? oh boy oh boy oh boy." this thread is hilarious. |
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07-02-2003, 02:38 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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We had some pretty nasty raccoons here in PA, we solved the issue by taking a piece of rope, feeding it through the handle on the lid, and tying two gallon jugs of water to each end. We caught one trying to chew the rope, and pepper-sprayed the rope. They don't try to chew it anymore. Briefly considered waiting up for them and pepper-spraying the raccoons, but figured the ASPCA would be pretty pissed. MPEDrummer
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07-02-2003, 03:09 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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In our area we build a trash shed...Roof, back, and sides, with two doors that open in the front...the only way to open the top is to open the front doors and lift the top off of the garbage cans...Put a hasp on the front doors...some also add wheels and then if they have a long driveway, they just push the shed up to the road...Keeps the bears from feeding as well.
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07-02-2003, 11:30 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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man, i don't know. I've had the same problem. My dogs have killed 5 of 'em this year (I shot one of 'em out of tree with a .22). I always think that's gotta be the last one but another one turns up on my porch to eat the cat food. animal rights people are gonna crucify me but maybe you could poison them? i tried putting annoying noise-making kids' toys in the food, hanging the food in containers high up on the wall. nothing works. people here build elaborate wooden boxes for their trash as well. so far, i just let the dogs loose. thank god for muttly pitbulls.
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07-03-2003, 03:32 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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Maybe leave the dead racoons laying around for the other racoons to see.
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07-03-2003, 02:18 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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at my house they raid the garbage and then go across the carport, climb on top of my Buell (harley) and eat the shit on top of my bike.
WTF! next time I see him he meets mr .223 I liked him until he started using the bike as a dinner table. he could use the ratty old truck hood and I didn't care, but no, he gotta use the shiny new 11,500 motorcycle. buy a set of gate hardware, a door hinge, rivet the hinge to one side of the lid, put a lock hasp on the other. |
07-03-2003, 08:32 PM | #20 (permalink) | |
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07-03-2003, 11:06 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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Interesting solutions.
My own would be to upgrade to a fifty five gallon drum with some wieghts in the bottom and a lid/ring to secure it. I would even just drop my current trash can into it. And yes, you can get subsonic .22, but don't get caught if you are in the city. A bolt action .22 rifle is best for it. The loudest noise will be the fall of the hammer.
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07-04-2003, 08:05 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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hey , you can buy .22 caliber air rifles , it again won`t kill them but it`ll sure piss them off . my dad reloads ammo and used to use bees wax instead of lead , put them in the fridge . kept the neibours dog from pissing on his junipers and was some funny to watch
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07-04-2003, 08:22 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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With all of the ravines in Toronto, this city is a haven for Racoons. My neighbourhood (Riverdale) is rife with them.
I'd say the best thing is to build a wooden enclosure with a latched lid and put your cans in there. I've done something similar and no longer have a problem (except when they have battles in the tree outside my window - I counted about 15 big racoons in one tree - there seemed to be a pitched battle between two groups - as one group edged backward on a limb the limb broke - the raccons fell a good 20 feet and a couple landed on a car parked on the street denting the roof)
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07-04-2003, 01:17 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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a benjamin sherridan air rifle will kill them. benjamins are pump rifles which cost about $120 and come in .22 or .177 (commonly)
they have a lot more mezzle energy than any cheap spring-over-air air rifle. they are a hell of a good field target gun if you don't mind pumping. if you do mind pumping they can be converted to run on co2 or hpa. here's mine which I converted. (I have a small machine shop) it's the funny looking scoped rifle on the green pool table. http://www.spaceman613.net/machining/machining.htm then again that ar15 would be a better choice. but really, if you don't have the tools to go through all that trouble of fixing up a shen or anything extravagent a bungee over the lid will probably do just fine. |
07-05-2003, 09:04 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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heh, Sleepyjack, coon is a slur here in the USA agenst Blacks/African Americans.
I wouldn't get a plastic can, as rats, mice, racoons, and anything else that wants whats inside will chew through it. Charlatan--hehehe--funny I like Labell's 55 gallon drum idea best.
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07-06-2003, 02:47 AM | #26 (permalink) | |
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07-06-2003, 09:07 AM | #28 (permalink) |
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yeah, well I like them too. I killed mine last night actaully. I felt bad about it afterward. I don't gennerally hunt any more. I went through this phase a couple years ago about wanting to hunt coyotes. then I finally got one. they are so cool. I leave them alone now. last time I saw one in the scope I just watched him fascinated. I took pretty much the same view towards coons too.
This coon had used my bike as a ladder to get into the garbage cans, so I quit parking the bike next to the cans. simple enough. Then he started to get into the cans, drag the food across the carport, climb up in the gas tank and eat it in the bike. I got tired of that real fast. Pretty much didn't matter where I parked, my bike became the official dinner table. so he's in the ground now. If the next one doesn't get into the same habbit we can be freinds. I'll do my part and not park by the garbage. |
07-06-2003, 09:52 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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sergi,
I completely agree. Usually, I prefer to work around problem animals if possible, but sometimes it's necessary to get rid of them. If that were my bike, I would have done the same thing.
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07-06-2003, 10:36 AM | #30 (permalink) | |
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hahahahahahahahaha!!!! i was thinking the same thing. here in the states it's a racial slur for black people, albeit a bit of an older one (slur, not black person). people are saying get a plastic locking lid, and i'm thinking "do you really think a black person is so dumb that they couldn't open that? oh boy oh boy oh boy." this thread is hilarious. [/B][/QUOTE] This reminds me of a funny thing I heard a friend say to his cousin. His cousin was from a big city so he knew the word "coon" as the racial slur. Friend: Hey cousin we are going cooning. You wanna come with His cousin: Whats cooning? Friend: O we chase down coons with baseball bats and guns and kill them. His cousin: Isn't that illegal how the hell do you get away with that? Friend: What do you mean they are just animals..raccoons.
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07-06-2003, 03:34 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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I thought about Forrest Gump. When he's at college or high school or whatever and one of his classmates says "Coons trying to get into our school" and then Forrest says, "Well whne coons try to get into out house momma just hit them away with a broom" BWUAHAHHAHAHA
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07-06-2003, 03:56 PM | #32 (permalink) | |
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You give in to the little bugger just once. The next night he brings a friend. Then another... And another... Pretty soon... <b>Party's on at your house!</b> Now you've got a semi from Purina parked out front. But it doesn't end there. The family starts to feed them... <b>FROM THE TABLE!!!</b> In fact, your family will turn completely against you. So much so, that they even start to look like 'em. And worst of all. Your faithful dog, who used to understand 'bout coons,... Disses you and <b>makes friends with the little bastard!</b> From there, it isn't long before he's playing with your toys, Borrowing your tools (<b>and NOT returning them!</b>), And driving off in your car. So remember. <b>DON'T BRAKE FOR 'COONS!</b>
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07-06-2003, 09:26 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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Nice collection of pictures. I do appologise about any mis-understanding about what "coons" I was talking about. Normally I would have said "racoons" but for some reason a group from school called the "coon hunters" was in my mind. I have been to Austrllia and love it. So, I wasn't trying to offend anyone. I have put a brink and a big rock on it. Not perfect or as good as your ideas. But I think when I scared it I might have done brain damage because it hasn't been back yet. Good deal for me =). Thanks everyone.
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07-07-2003, 12:15 AM | #34 (permalink) | |
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07-08-2003, 12:39 AM | #36 (permalink) |
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Sound like our blasted possums!
When I saw the title I thought about native australians.. and I was like.. what the heck.. read it abit and then thought ahh racoons.. lol
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07-08-2003, 01:12 PM | #38 (permalink) |
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The Geezer to the rescue: procure a good-sized square piece of crab netting (one-inch square holes) and drape it over the can with the food. They'll try it once or twice, but they HATE getting their paws caught in the net and will soon go elsewhere for dinner. I was plagued with racoons in suburban Philly when I lived there, until an aunt who lived on the Outer Banks taught me this little trick. It's real cheap, so what have you got to lose, other than your masked buddies? Good luck.
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07-08-2003, 01:51 PM | #39 (permalink) | |
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I told you these things were evil.
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