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Redlemon 07-26-2006 12:09 PM

Grammar question - 'enrolled'
 
If I were to say that I'm attending a school, which is correct?

"Enrolled in Fred University"
"Enrolled at Fred University"
"Enrolled with Fred University"

Or is it something else entirely?

ratbastid 07-26-2006 12:18 PM

What I'm about to say is opinion and speculation.

I believe the first two are correct, but there are distinct contexts you would use them in.

"Enrolled in" describes an action one would take. After graduation college, I enrolled in technical school.

"Enrolled at" describes the location of my enrollment, after the fact of my attending school is stipulated. Yes, I'm in school. I'm enrolled at Gofug University.

"Enrolled with" is just flat wrong. Except maybe in answer to the question "do you go to school alone?", in which case one might say, "Heck no! I enrolled with my brother, Jimmy Bob Joe Jim!"

JustJess 07-26-2006 12:41 PM

^^ What he said. :)

Bill O'Rights 07-26-2006 12:42 PM

Opinion?!?

Speculation?!?

For God's sake man, you're an English Major! Take a stand.


:D

I would say "I am enrolled at Fred University". But...then again...I was a Business Major. ;)

Redlemon 07-26-2006 12:47 PM

Cool. (I was an engineering major.)

I was pretty sure it was one of the first two, but the more you look at something, the weirder it gets, and after kicking it around for a while, even "with" looked good.

("If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.")

Bill O'Rights 07-26-2006 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
I was pretty sure it was one of the first two, but the more you look at something, the weirder it gets, and after kicking it around for a while, even "with" looked good.

Let's hope then, shall we, that the same is not true of prints, drawings and schematics. ;)

Engineers. :rolleyes:

The most dangerous thing in my profession is an engineer with a...catalog. :eek:

"Oooooh....this looks neat. Let's design it into my latest project. Can we, can we, huh?"

thingstodo 07-26-2006 02:58 PM

It seems to me that "in" means in their system while "at" might indicate specifically where. Several grammer checks I used allowed both versions. Of course, the siftware didn't really know the complete meaning behind the meaning!

The more I say it out loud, the more "at" feels better.

Gatorade Frost 07-26-2006 07:44 PM

This is speculation, too, but I would use it like this

Enrolled in ____ - That's fine, but generally I would use it to further describe something, "I am enrolled in Texas A&M's business school" (More specific)

And "I'm enrolled at A&M." (More general)

And Enrolled with, what ratbastid said. (More unusual)

Jimellow 07-26-2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
If I were to say that I'm attending a school, which is correct?

"Enrolled in Fred University"
"Enrolled at Fred University"
"Enrolled with Fred University"

Or is it something else entirely?

You are enrolled in classes, enrolled at college, and enrolled with friends. Personally, I don't think there is much room for re-arranging.

You could be enrolled in the University, but University represents a more general construct that you are at, but not necessarily in. You are in classes, because they are a more specific branch of the larger University. I don't think you are enrolled with classes or the University, as I don't consider it to be a partnership, but instead a service granted as a result of payment.

JustJess 07-27-2006 05:10 AM

I wouldn't be so quick to use 'at'... it's a common grammatical error. I hear people saying 'at' in place of many other more appropriate words all the time... it drives me a bit loony.

Whether you're being specific or not, 'enrolled in' should always be your first choice. 'With' is only appropriate as noted above - I enrolled with a friend; I enrolled with a GPA of 3.8; etc.

level five 07-27-2006 11:07 AM

with enrolled in, wouldn't "the" need to follow "in?" for example, I am enrolled "in the" duke school of business. otherwise, enrolled "at" duke flows better so i would assume ti might be correct. with just sounds silly, but that's me.

sapiens 07-27-2006 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJess
I wouldn't be so quick to use 'at'... it's a common grammatical error. I hear people saying 'at' in place of many other more appropriate words all the time... it drives me a bit loony.

Whether you're being specific or not, 'enrolled in' should always be your first choice. 'With' is only appropriate as noted above - I enrolled with a friend; I enrolled with a GPA of 3.8; etc.

I endorse the usage above. Avoid "at".

Quote:

Originally Posted by ratbastid
"Heck no! I enrolled with my brother, Jimmy Bob Joe Jim!"

Coincidentally, my wife's ex-stepsister's father/brother was named Jimmy Bob Joe Jim.

Gatorade Frost 07-27-2006 03:03 PM

Seems like it's become this:

Enrolled in Thing (Classes)
Enrolled at Place (School)
Enrolled with Person

krwlz 07-27-2006 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
Let's hope then, shall we, that the same is not true of prints, drawings and schematics. ;)

Engineers. :rolleyes:

The most dangerous thing in my profession is an engineer with a...catalog. :eek:

"Oooooh....this looks neat. Let's design it into my latest project. Can we, can we, huh?"


Haha, I think also that "In' and "at" are correct. But gee... Thanks for the engineer jab:rolleyes: . I'm one too. Though I have a year of school yet, and plan on an MBA... I'm an engineer at heart.


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