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bookerV · 09-06-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth

It's really sad, because if you calculate in inflation, videogame prices have fallen since they were first introduced. I may have mentioned this in this thread already, but an NES in 1983 would cost over $400 to buy today. Now, you get a 20 GB HDD, ethernet port, wireless controller, HD capable video output, DVD player, music player, etc. all for $400. The original NES could play games. That's it.

-Lasereth

You have to remember though that back in the day the NES was cutting edge. Just because the definition of cutting edge has changed (i.e. having DVD Player, HD video out, etc etc) doesn't mean it is any less groundbreaking.Tthe NES was an amazing piece of hardware back in the day. Just like the 360 will be when it comes out. The price is lower due to sheer competition and an increase in customer expectations.

Lasereth · 09-06-2005, 11:46 AM

Oh, I realize that, but 90% of the people complaining about videogame prices think that prices have rose drastically since the 1980's. They haven't. They've stayed the same in the most extreme circumstances and have went down on average when factoring in inflation. "I can't believe the nerve of Microsoft for charging $400 for a VIDEOGAME!!" Nintendo, Sega, and Sony have all did in the past and no one cared, simply because it was a smaller number.

-Lasereth

hulk · 09-07-2005, 04:11 AM

As gaming gets more widespread, there'll be many more who complain. Can't do much about it.

bookerV · 09-07-2005, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth

Oh, I realize that, but 90% of the people complaining about videogame prices think that prices have rose drastically since the 1980's. They haven't. They've stayed the same in the most extreme circumstances and have went down on average when factoring in inflation. "I can't believe the nerve of Microsoft for charging $400 for a VIDEOGAME!!" Nintendo, Sega, and Sony have all did in the past and no one cared, simply because it was a smaller number.

-Lasereth

Yeah, I see what you mean by that. I don't complain about the price. The big retailers LOSE money on the console a majority of the time anyways, but make that money back on software, accessories, etc.

hulk · 09-07-2005, 07:05 AM

Actually, the big retailers bar Nintendo still lose money, games and peripherals included :P

Wingless · 09-07-2005, 07:22 AM

Yeah, it's interesting to note that Nintendo is the only one in the current-gen console market making money on their console!

japhyryder · 09-07-2005, 08:03 AM

and Nintendo, is less then 100 bucks, I thought the ps2 was profitable for sony. I knew the X-Box wasn't for MS

biznatch · 09-07-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bookerV

You have to remember though that back in the day the NES was cutting edge. Just because the definition of cutting edge has changed (i.e. having DVD Player, HD video out, etc etc) doesn't mean it is any less groundbreaking.Tthe NES was an amazing piece of hardware back in the day. Just like the 360 will be when it comes out. The price is lower due to sheer competition and an increase in customer expectations.

Exactly my opinion. That, and all these new functions are sort of "useless" compared to what we already have...
DVD player, we have like 3 per household..HD video is nothing huge...etc..
however back in the day, having the control to move a little red and white character on the screen and kill turtles was huge! My grandfather bought one when it came out and was blown away.
Now its like "meh...the games'll just be a little more visually stunning"

Gary_the_Rat · 09-07-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Derwood

I think there is a ceiling on graphics (except for the High Def stuff, which you won't fully appreciate on a computer monitor or standard TV)

There will be a bigger jump in graphics from PS2 to PS3 because PS2 games have never lived up to the hardware's capabilities. Xbox games have always looked better, so they have less room to improve.

ermm.... computer monitors display MUCH higher resolution than HD spec, and there's obviously room to improve on a normal TV set. CNN still looks more realistic than the best game, no matter how crappy the TV is you're watching it on.

I agree a bit with the PS3 bit though.

Derwood · 09-08-2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary_the_Rat

ermm.... computer monitors display MUCH higher resolution than HD spec, and there's obviously room to improve on a normal TV set. CNN still looks more realistic than the best game, no matter how crappy the TV is you're watching it on.

I agree a bit with the PS3 bit though.

Perhaps games will be absolutely photo realistic someday...we never thought we'd see games that look like RE4 or Halo back when we were moving a block around a screen on the Atari 2600

hulk · 09-08-2005, 05:15 PM

They're not far off - look at GT4, and that's on a PS2. It's all about the shaders, yo.

09-06-2005, 11:46 AM	#42 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Oh, I realize that, but 90% of the people complaining about videogame prices think that prices have rose drastically since the 1980's. They haven't. They've stayed the same in the most extreme circumstances and have went down on average when factoring in inflation. "I can't believe the nerve of Microsoft for charging $400 for a VIDEOGAME!!" Nintendo, Sega, and Sony have all did in the past and no one cared, simply because it was a smaller number. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

09-07-2005, 04:11 AM	#43 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	As gaming gets more widespread, there'll be many more who complain. Can't do much about it. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

09-07-2005, 07:05 AM	#45 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Actually, the big retailers bar Nintendo still lose money, games and peripherals included :P __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

09-07-2005, 07:22 AM	#46 (permalink)
Wingless Psycho Location: Metro Detroit, Mich, USA	Yeah, it's interesting to note that Nintendo is the only one in the current-gen console market making money on their console! __________________ Tommy Nibs is a funny word. So here I am, above palm trees, so straight and tall... You are, smaller getting smaller, but I still see... you. Jimmy Eat World - Goodbye Sky Harbor

09-07-2005, 08:03 AM	#47 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	and Nintendo, is less then 100 bucks, I thought the ps2 was profitable for sony. I knew the X-Box wasn't for MS __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

09-08-2005, 05:15 PM	#51 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	They're not far off - look at GT4, and that's on a PS2. It's all about the shaders, yo. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.