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Old 04-07-2005, 02:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Leaked WoW Patch notes. I got Banned for this!

Well, I'm a bit pissed off right now.

Basically. There is a sticky saying that posting unfinalized patch notes will be dealt with by deletion.

I tend to take this stuff literally, you know what really happened?

I asked if someone could post an offsite link because I felt that I was a big enough boy to read these notes with a grain of salt and realize that maybe, just maybe, it might not all be true.

Thier response? Insta BAN.

I got banned for that exact post. Un friggin believable.

I got on irc, and well, found the info I was looking for. SO out of a bit of childish retaliation for being so KNEE JERK banned. I'm gonna post it here.

Had they just locked the thread, deleted it. Fine, Would have been far more appropiate, but now, I might as well share what I've found. Take it as you will.

Thank you to Luna from the irc channel for sending me the link to this info

Here they are, just tell me if they seem to be legit, or a bit exaggerated.

Major Changes

PvP Honor System

The PvP Honor System is now active. Players will be able to gain rankings based on PvP performance, with lucrative rewards for those who stake their claim to fame on the field of battle! Read more about the PvP Honor system.

Children's Week

Children's Week is celebrated in Orgrimmar and Stormwind City at the start of May, lasting for a week.
It is a time to give back to the innocents of war: the orphans!

Gurubashi Arena Event

There is now a regular event in Gurubashi Arena in Stranglethorn Vale. Every three hours starting at midnight, a pirate with too much treasure on his hands will drop a chest in the center of the arena. Whoever can open the chest first gets the contents! Of course the arena is a PvP FFA area,
so there might be other players who are trying to open it first...

Elemental Invasions

Invasions of elementals at different locations on Kalimdor have been reported as occurring sporadically every few days. Concerned adventurers should investigate Silithus, Un'Goro Crater, Azshara and Winterspring to counter these incursions.

Epic Mounts

Level 60 mounts purchased at vendors now have a whole new look. Undead mounts already have a different look for their faster mounts and so have not changed. The new mounts can be seen standing near the mount vendors. If you have one of the old fast mounts you can exchange it for one with a new look at the mount vendor.


General Changes

General
• Mana regeneration is now disrupted when a spell has completed casting rather than at the start of cast. It will resume normally 5 seconds after the last spell cast.
• Blood Fury - Now increases base melee attack power by 25% for 15 seconds. When it fades base melee attack power is reduced by 25% for 45 seconds.
• Perception - Increased detection bonus.
• Spells and abilities that interrupt a channeled spell will now properly interrupt the entire spell school for the interrupt duration.
• Fixed a bug where attack power bonuses were not properly affected by percent damage modifiers for Ambush, Backstab, Ghostly Strike, Ravage, Riposte, Scatter Shot and Shred. Specific ability changes described below.
• Fixed a bug where weapon skills were inappropriately capped at 5 times level. Characters should now gain benefit from weapon skill bonuses beyond their normal cap.
• Charm and Polymorph mechanics can now be reactively countered by spells and abilities (e.g. Will of the Forsaken will counter Mind Control).
• Berserking - Is now usable after being the target of a critical hit. Increases melee, ranged and spell casting speed by 25% but increases all damage taken by 10% for the duration.
• There are new load screens for the Stratholme, Scholomance and Blackrock Depths instances.
Additionally, many of the previous load screens throughout the world have been replaced with new art. Enjoy!

PvP
• Guard directions, signs and signposts have been added to point you toward the PvP Officer Lounges in Stormwind City (Champions' Hall) and Orgrimmar (Hall of Legends).

Druid
• Ravage and Shred now properly increase the attack power contribution by the percent modifier.
• Shapeshifting into an animal form will now remove polymorph effects.

Hunter
• The Hunter Epic quest series is now in game and waiting to be found.
• Scatter Shot (Talent) - Now usable while moving and no longer interrupts ranged combat. Also properly reduces the ranged attack power contribution by the percent modifier.
• Highland Striders no longer have Cower (Rank 3) when tamed.
• New Pet Ability: Dive - Increases movement speed for a short duration.
• New Pet Ability: Dash - Increases movement speed for a short duration.
• Freezing Trap - Visual changed.
• Track Hidden - Increased stealth detection.
• Scorpid Sting - Fixed a bug where it was not considered a poison. It can now be removed by poison curing effects.

Mage
• Improved Scorch (Talent) - Redesign. Scorch spells have a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to cause your target to be vulnerable to Fire damage. This vulnerability increases the Fire damage dealt to your target by 2% and can be stacked up to 5 times for a total of 10% increased Fire damage.
• New Spell: Arcane Brilliance (available at level 56 - Loot) - Infuses the
target's party with brilliance, increasing their Intellect.
• Improved Mana Shield - Design changed. Instead of increasing the amount absorbed, it now decreases the mana lost per point of damage taken by 10/20%.
• An error message is now displayed if you try to use Blink on boats and
zeppelins.
• Wand Specialization - Fixed a bug where the damage increase with this talent was too high.
• Cone of Cold - Now subject to diminishing returns in PvP. This is considered a slowing effect.
• Frost Nova - Now subject to diminishing returns in PvP. This is considered an immobilizing effect.
• Pyroblast and Fireball damage over time will now stack together.

Paladin
• Paladin epic mount quest added, talk to Duthroian Rall or Brandur Ironhammer to begin the quest.
• Sanctity Aura - Fixed a bug where the spell/talent was unlearned after
logging out if learned before level 40.
• Resistance Auras - Paladins should now be able to switch from a resistance aura to any other resistance aura without canceling the current one first.
• Improved Seal of Justice - Fixed a bug that caused the talent to have no effect. It will now increase the frequency that the stun effect will land.

Priest
• A new Priest epic quest series is now in the game and waiting to be found.
• Levitate - Duration and mana cost increased.
• Touch of Weakness - Should now be affected by the Blackout, Darkness, Force of Will, Shadow Focus, Shadow Weaving and Silent Resolve talents.
• Starshards - Should now be affected by the Focused Casting, Force of Will, and Silent Resolve talents.
• Holy Fire - Should now be affected by the Focused Casting talent.
• Mind Flay - Should now be affected by the Focused Casting talent.
• Desperate Prayer - Should now be affected by the Holy Specialization
talents.
• Vampiric Embrace - Active icon tooltip rewritten to be more clear.
• Holy Nova - Now causes an explosion of holy light around the caster, causing Holy damage to all enemy targets within 10 yards and healing all party members within 10 yards. These effects now cause no threat as opposed to reducing threat temporarily.
• Holy Fire - We've made several changes to Holy Fire in an effort to make this a more usable, efficient, damage spell. We've reduced the cast time from 5 seconds to 4 seconds, which reduced the damage caused. From there, we increased the damage and shifted more of the spell's potency into the damage over time portion. We also increased the duration and reduced the mana cost and cooldown. While the direct damage portion was reduced slightly from the previous version, each tick of damage should be unchanged as well as delivering one additional tick of damage. In total, the relative damage and efficiency of the spell have been increased.
• Wand Specialization - Fixed a bug where the damage increase with this talent was too high.

Rogue
• Combo points will no longer be removed if the target is deselected. They
will only be removed if a different target is selected.
• Vanish - Increased stealth bonus.
• Ambush, Backstab, Ghostly Strike, and Riposte now properly increase the
attack power contribution by the percent modifier.
• The Kick ability prevents the target from casting spells in the same school when channeled casting is interrupted.
• If using Gouge triggers the Stormshroud Armor lightning effect, the gouge will no longer be instantly interrupted.
• The Rogue trainers will now point the player to an appropriate area with
boxes to unlock depending on the lockpicking skill of the player.
• Preparation - Will now clear the cooldown of the Blade Flurry ability.

Shaman
• Earth Shock - The visual for ranks 2 through 7 has been changed to be
consistent with rank 1.
• Windfury - Fixed a bug that caused an additional attack beyond what was intended. In addition, fixed a bug that caused the next normal melee attack to happen sooner than intended.
• Level 58+ Shaman should talk to Sagorne Creststrider in Orgrimmar; there is a special quest for them involving a dreaded death knight who dwells in the depths of the Scholomance.
• Frost Shock - Now subject to diminishing returns in PvP. This is considered a slowing effect.

Warlock
• Warlock epic mount quest added. To begin the quest, speak with a demon trainer in any of the capital cities.
• The Warlock Infernal quest is now available and can be found in Felwood. The Warlock Ritual of Doom quest is now available and can be found in the Tainted Scar.
• The succubus now has a new look.
• Paranoia (Felhunter) - Increased stealth detection.
• Seduction (Succubus) - Is now considered a Fear effect for purposes of
diminishing returns.

Warrior
• Thunder Clap - Visual and animation changed.

Items

The following set items have had their art updated:
• All parts of the Warrior "Might" set
• Devout Crown and Mantle
• Magister's Crown
• Circlet of Prophecy
• Lightforge Helm
• Helm of Valor
• Dreadmist Mask
• Wildheart Cowl
• Pauldrons and Coif of Elements

Other class sets will receive updated art in future patches.
• Random world items that had increased healing effects were mislabeled, and the amount of increased healing appeared to be half of what was actually occurring. The amount shown on the item is now an accurate representation of the healing increase.
• The Celestial Orb and Robe of the Archmage will no longer trigger the
cooldowns of a Mage's mana gems. Mana gems are now on their own unique
cooldown category.
• Tiny Black Whelping item changed to Dark Whelpling to reflect the name of the creature summoned.
• Fixed a typo in the aura description for the Mighty Rage potion.
• +Spell damage and +Healing effects have been increased in effectiveness to make them more attractive to players. Effects that increased damage and healing done by all magical spells received the largest increase, especially if the previous amount was small. We also fixed a couple bugs relating to these effects.
• Pimgib's Collar is now unique.
• Frayed Abomination Stichings are now considered to be uncommon items.
• Fordring's Seal has been improved with additional Stamina and Intellect.
• Ring of Protection's armor has been lowered, but the ring's Stamina has been increased.
• Voodoo Band has been slightly improved.
• Underworld Band is no longer unique.
• Filling jars of ooze no longer puts you into combat.
• The Rod of the Ogre Magi properly sheathes now.
• Changed the tooltip of the Bloodfang Hood's effect to properly indicate the duration of the stun.
• The Demon Forged Breastplate effect no longer requires channeling.
• Tooltips for the Blazefury Medallion, Storm Gauntlets, Fiery Plate Gauntlets Blessed Sunfruit, Blessed Sunfruit Juice, and ragged John's Neverending Cup
modified to more appropriately describe their effects.
• The Amberseal Keeper's melee DPS has been reduced, but an additional +Spell Damage effect has been added instead.
• Onyxia Hide Backpacks are now 18 slot containers.
• Warstrike Shoulder Pads have been improved.
• Living Leggings, Breastplate, and Shoulders now have Stamina, but had their Nature Resistance lowered.
• Legplates and Legguards of the Chromatic Defier have been improved.
• The drop rate of Essence of Undead has been lowered.
• The drop rate for Gift of the Wild and Prayer of Fortitude has been considerably increased.
• General Drakkisath will now drop 2-4 Blood of the Black Dragon Champion instead of 1.

Professions
• A significant number of additional engineering devices have been added to the world both as new recipes on vendors and as drops on monsters in the
higher level (50+) dungeons and in raids.
• Seven new blacksmithing recipes are available to seasoned blacksmiths via a series of turning quests.
• Three new armorsmithing recipes are available to master armorsmiths. All 3 recipes are gained via quest.
• The Turtle Scale gloves recipe has been changed to have a white name rather than green since it can now be purchased at the store. Generally, recipes with white names are store-bought and ones with green or blue (or purple) names are drops from monsters.
• Some Blasting Powder icons changed.
• Leatherworkers can now make throwing balls (as a toy).
• Ghostweave Belt pattern is no longer bind on acquire.
• Randal Worth in Stormwind now only teaches apprentice level leatherworking.
• Expert Blacksmithing Trainers will now point you to the appropriate Artisan smith when you get a high enough skill.
• Bombs now cause a disorient effect when they go off, this was not working correctly previously.
• Flame Deflector and Frost Deflector now do an elemental damage absorb rather than a resistance increase.
• Minor Recombobulator now restores health and mana as well as removing
polymorph effects.
• Target Dummies now generate an initial taunt pulse so creatures will attack them for the first 5 seconds after they are dropped.
• Gnomish Death Ray damage increased slightly and cooldown reduced to 5
minutes.
• The level of the Mechanical Dragonlings, Battlechicken and Bombs dropped by the Goblin Bomb Dropper now scale with your engineering skill, so they will be always useful against enemies. Their damage and health has remained the same.
• Requirements to make the Helm of Fire were reduced.

Raids & Dungeons
• Azuregos now has a new debuff - Mark of Frost. A player who is hit with the Mark of Frost will be frozen in a block of ice should they attempt to
re-engage Azuregos.
• Bael'gar, Lord Incendius, and Golem Lord Argelmach are now slightly lower level than previously. This will provide a much better progression of creature and boss levels in Blackrock Depths.
• The Baroness Anastari encounter has been changed. Players who become unpossessed will now have full health, and after the Baroness unpossesses a player there will be a much longer cooldown before she can cast possess again. These changes should make her a more balanced encounter for a 5 man group.
• Lava Surgers no longer respawn once you kill Garr.
• When Majordomo Executus submits, a chest is spawned next to him. This chest should only spawn the FIRST time he is defeated in a saved instance. If a guild tries him a second or third night, no chest should spawn.
• Ragnaros now stays up 2 hours rather than 1 after being summoned.
• The Golemagg and Shazzrah encounters in the Molten Core has undergone some changes.
Scholomance Itemization
• 20 new Rare items have been added to Scholomance.
• Several Uncommon items have been upgraded to Rare quality.
• Rattlegore, Jandice Barov, and Lord Alexei Barov will now always drop at
least one Rare item.
• Ras Frostwhisper will always drop at least two Rare items.

Stratholme Itemization
• 26 new Rare items have been added to Stratholme.
• Several Uncommon items have been upgraded to Rare quality.
• Archivist Galford, Baroness Anastasi, Nerub'enkan, and Maleki the Pallid
will now always drop at least one Rare item.

Raid Itemization
• Onyxia, Azuregos, Lord Kazzak, and all Molten Core boss creatures have all received some new items on their loot tables.
• Onyxia will once again drop two upper tier class set helms.
• Most of the non-class set items that dropped from Molten Core and Onyxia
have had their effective levels increased, resulting in higher DPS weapons,
and/or better stats and effects.
• Players who defeat the Majordomo Executus encounter will now be rewarded
with new epic items. This reward will only be granted the first time the
encounter is defeated during the 6 day lifespan of a Molten Core instance.
The loot tables for some of the Molten Core bosses have been improved so
they drop an additional epic item per kill.
• World bosses such as Onyxia, Azuregos, and Lord Kazzak will no longer drop
random blue items of a level lower than 50.
• Prior to this patch, Molten Core boss creatures could drop items from one of
two different tiered sets for every character class. The loot tables have
been changed so Molten Core bosses will now only drop items from the lower
tier class sets. However, some of the items from those sets were not
previously dropping in Molten Core. These missing class set items will now
drop in Molten Core, allowing players to complete their lower tier class
sets. The higher tier class set pieces that once dropped in Molten Core will
be found once again in Blackwing Lair, the next raiding zone scheduled for
release in a future patch.

Future patches will include even more item rewards for these raid encounters, as well as improvements to the statistics, effects, and set bonuses for both tiers of the raid armor sets.

Quests
• Party Quest share information is now working. If you mouse over a quest that multiple party members have, it will display a mouseover tooltip indicating what nearby party member are on that quest. Also to the left of the quest name in your quest log it will list a number in parenthesis indicating how many other players in your party have that quest.
• Quest givers who have repeatable quests now display with a blue question
mark over their head instead of the standard yellow exclamation point/question mark.
• The Molten Core discovery quest has had its objective moved from inside the Molten Core to Blackrock Depths.
• Paladins who have completed their Epic Mount quest can repeat the final
event in Scholomance for fun (and loot) by speaking with Lord Grayson
Shadowbreaker.
• Lunaclaw’s spirit should stay around longer before despawning, and the spirit should simply despawn as oppose to "die".
• The description text for both the Horde and Alliance versions of the Rabine
Saturna quest have been clarified.
• The reward text for the Hive in the Tower quest has been clarified.
• Fixed the Resonite Crystal not spawning in the Stonetalon quest Earthen
Arise.
• Kinelory in Arathi Highlands is now PvP-enabling, so Horde players who attack her will be flagged for PvP.
• Quickened Ana’thek the Cruel’s (quest target in Stranglethorn) respawn rate.
He and his entourage now spawn every 5-8 minutes.
• Removed Stormwind Faction reward from the Greenwarden quest line in the
Wetlands.
• The time Decrepit Guardians stay spawned increased from 1 minute to 2 minutes.
• The elementals in the plaguelands no longer attack the Spectral Defenders.
The "haunting" radius of Pamela’s doll pieces in Darrowshire was reduced.
You must now be closer to a doll piece before ghosts appear.
• Increased the respawn time of Mok'rash in Stranglethorn Vale from 9 hours to
2 hours on average.
• Fixed a bug that caused Razzle in Dun Morogh to become non-interactable.
Added text to the Fresh Zhevra Carcass to clarify it’s use in the Ishamuhale
quest.
• Typos in various quests have been corrected.

User Interface
• Temporary weapon enchantments will now display as buff icons to the right of your normal buff icons.
• Recipes you already know will not show up in the auction listing if "Usable
Items" is checked.
• The mouseover UI in the bottom right corner will no longer overlay the extra
action bars if you have them up.
• If the subject line is not filled in when you put an item in a piece of
mail, it will automatically be filled in with the item being sent.
• Mousing over the interface options menu will no longer count as a mouseover
on objects underneath the interface window (Thus making it hard to set your
chat windows to be fully transparent among other things).

World Environment
• Andorhal has been overhauled to improve framerate, navigability, and monster
spawns.
• Repositioned quest spawns in light of new city layout (tower marker indicators, silos, etc).
• Doubled the number of small lockboxes present for the Counting out Time
quest.
• Araj should now spawn as a result of destroying the crystals in the towers
of Andorhal.
• Kardris Dreamseeker is now being addressed properly as a female, rather than
a male.
• There are new load screens for the Stratholme, Scholomance and Blackrock
Depths instances. Additionally, many of the previous load screens throughout
the world have been replaced with new art. Enjoy!
• Bloodvenom Post - Crossroads (Horde) no longer flies you through a tree.
Sorry for the scrapes and bruises.
• Shalzaru's Lair on the Isle of Dread off the coast of Feralas now properly
displays its name when you enter the cave.
• The dragon bones just to the southwest of The Swarming Pillar in Silithus
have been named the Bones of Grakkarond.
• The levels of the NPCs in Camp Mojache have been raised to be commensurate with their counterparts at Feathermoon Stronghold.
• Patrolling scouts that can see through stealth and invisibility have been
added to Darnassus, Stormwind City, Undercity and Thunder Bluff.
• The range of restock time for Argent Dawn vendors has been widened.
• Cairne Bloodhoof is now a little more talkative.
• High Priest Rohan is now properly associated with the Ironforge faction.
• Grimand Elmore in Stormwind is more talkative.
• Town Criers in all the major cities now have basic gossip text.
• More references to the fictitious locale of "Chillwind Point" have been
squashed in favor of the very real "Chillwind Camp".
• Players will no longer get stuck in a location in the Ruins of Eldarath in
Azshara.
• Fires in Thunder Axe Fortress in Desolace now have proper names.
• No longer a tree floating off the ground in the Sishir Canyon area of the
Stonetalon Mountains.
• There is no longer a floating tree in Westfall above the defias tower.
• There are no longer fish flying around above the water line in Silverpine
Forest.
• Female orcs no longer get stuck in scaffolding in Lost Rigger Cove.
• Removed a crate that was clipping through a tent/hut in Coldridge Valley.
• Removed the terrain that popped in and out of the crevice in the entrance to Foothold Citadel on Theramore Isle.
• Properly named the intact watchtower near Southshore.
• The Rainsticks sign in Thunderbluff is no longer floating.
• Removed floating object from Nijel's Point in Desolace.
• Removed an invisible collision wall located in the Barrens near the
Bramblescar area.
• Players can no longer kill creatures with ranged attacks while the mobs are
unable to damage the player when standing atop the cauldrons in Eastern
Plaguelands.
• Closed a hole in the world in the Searing Gorge.
• There is no longer a hole in the world at Dun Garok.
• The minimum level requirement on the Dire Maul, Temple of Atal'Hakkar and Blackrock Spire meeting stones has been properly assigned.
• There is no longer a hole in the world in Raven Hill, Duskwood.
• The orczeppelinhouse.wmo in Grom'Gol Base Camp no longer has a portalling
issue.
• A tree located too far above the ground in Feralas has been "replanted".
The dock on the Forgotten Coast in Feralas is no longer partially floating
above the ground.
• There is no longer water missing from the pool by the Grimtotems in the
Lower Wilds of Feralas.
• A rock that was sitting above the ground at the top of one of the falls in
Nighthaven has landed.
• Players no longer will get stuck in a location at Gurubashi Arena in
Stranglethorn Vale.
• Major Mana potions buy/sell price slightly increased.
• Aggro radius of Bears and Wolves in Silverpine have been reduced.
• The Dry times in Ironforge have ended and the Stonefire Tavern in Ironforge
now has alcohol again.
• Fixed a grammatical error in one of Captain Kromcrush’s yells in Dire Maul.
• Mizzle the Crafty in Dire Maul shouldn't be so repetitive in proclaiming a
new king if the player cycles through gossip too quickly.
• Williden Marshal’s gossip text has been polished.

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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FINALLY! That grammatical error in Captain Kromcrush's yell was ruining the game for me!

Sorry to hear you got banned, but think of the wonders it will do for your real life now that you aren't sinking days at a time into the game.
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Old 04-07-2005, 09:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I see.

you flouted the rules, and are mad that they followed up on their threat. It doesn't matter how big a boy you are... don't do the crime if you can't do the time.



While I'm grateful to read the "rumor mill" if their venue has clear rules... well you got what you deserved.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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but all he did was ask for a link, right?

might I add that that's a helluva big patch notes
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It's nice to know they're hitting the real issues with Warrior. I don't know what I would have done if the Thunder Clap animation wasn't changed.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It's nice to know they're hitting the real issues with Warrior. I don't know what I would have done if the Thunder Clap animation wasn't changed.
My thoughts exactly. Although, ever since they patched Rage, I've been a much more effective warrior.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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but all he did was ask for a link, right?

might I add that that's a helluva big patch notes
Big? Not really, you should've seen the patch notes for Service Patch 2
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Old 04-07-2005, 02:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If that patch doesent come with any stealth nerfs, I'd have to say it's the first patch ever where everything was impressive.
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Old 04-07-2005, 02:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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FYI, I was forum banned for 24 hours, All i did is ask if people COULD post an offsite link. I didnt ask them to DO IT. I also wrote just before that question an explaination as to why I feel like blizzard is trying to "hold my hand" and protect me from the "big bad internet"

sorry, I didn't get what I deserve. I was treated poorly for asking a question. That is all.
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Old 04-08-2005, 03:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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FYI, I was forum banned for 24 hours,
ptf, thats not bad at all. when you said banned, i was thinking account blocking.
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Old 04-08-2005, 06:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Ugh, looks like the rogue remains broken...

Sometimes when you use Cheap Shot, it doesn't give you your two combo points. That blows hard. It happens rather frequently and kinda pisses me off.
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Old 04-08-2005, 06:14 AM   #12 (permalink)
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FYI, I was forum banned for 24 hours, All i did is ask if people COULD post an offsite link. I didnt ask them to DO IT. I also wrote just before that question an explaination as to why I feel like blizzard is trying to "hold my hand" and protect me from the "big bad internet"

sorry, I didn't get what I deserve. I was treated poorly for asking a question. That is all.
FWIW, I'm sorry I beg to differ. According to what I read, they state they don't want ANY discussion about leaked patch information.

We don't allow ANY discussion about warez... even asking about a link to it could get you banned.

I don't see how that's any different.

Google is your friend. Take responsibility of it yourself if you don't need someone to "protect me from the 'big bad internet'" then be mature enough to search for that information yourself.
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Old 04-08-2005, 06:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think you got exactly what you deserve. Not that your 24 hour ban of forum access would be something to cry about, exactly.

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Old 04-08-2005, 06:51 AM   #14 (permalink)
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24hr punishment from forums is nothin, slap on the wrist

thx for the notes, though they are now pretty wide spread
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Old 04-08-2005, 08:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You cried over being temporarily suspended 24 hours from the bnet forums? You should thank them for giving you a good reason never to visit that L33T gamer infested shithole again...
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Old 04-08-2005, 09:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Sometimes rules are stupid, and make no sense.

That being said... being banned for talking about a patch that will be released anyway is overkill and pointless. It's not like you can take information and exploit the game accordingly.

They fixed the delection and losing combo points for the rogue. Exactly HOW is it bad to relay that information to someone else?

"Pimgib's Collar is now unique." :O HOW DARE YOU MENTION THIS! BANNED!! That's against our RULES!

Well... sorry, doesn't make sense... rules or not.

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Not only that, but don't they release the patch weeks in advance on test servers to give UI developers time to update their interfaces accordingly? I have yet to see a good reason why this is a bannable offense other than the "because I said so" factor.
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Old 04-08-2005, 09:59 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Sometimes rules are stupid, and make no sense.

That being said... being banned for talking about a patch that will be released anyway is overkill and pointless. It's not like you can take information and exploit the game accordingly.

They fixed the delection and losing combo points for the rogue. Exactly HOW is it bad to relay that information to someone else?

"Pimgib's Collar is now unique." :O HOW DARE YOU MENTION THIS! BANNED!! That's against our RULES!

Well... sorry, doesn't make sense... rules or not.
it doesn't have to make sense.

Halx doesn't like people to spam or site plug on his board. The TivoCommunity board doesn't want people talking about hacking the tivo.

His board his rules. Simple.

You may not agree with it, you may not understand the rationale behind it, but one does have to respect and abide buy it.
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Old 04-08-2005, 10:17 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Blizzard doesn't want the patch notes released for a simple reason: they're not the final patch notes. They are NOT final. In other words, these patch notes WILL change before patch time, and sure enough, Blizzard fanboys and haters are going to bitch and moan that these aren't correct.

Blizzard is simply taking precausions to prevent the flaming of their company over incomplete, leaked patch notes. Now that these are out, the patch will change a bit, and <B>I guarantee the flamers are going to be whining that these pre-emptive notes weren't the truth even though Blizzard warned against trusting them.</B>

Half the people in this thread are taking the patch notes as Gospel just like the rest of the Internet. I don't blame Blizzard for suspending people for posting these or bringing them up...it only leads to cries of false hopes once it's patch time because the leaked notes aren't final.

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Old 04-08-2005, 10:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Sometimes rules are stupid, and make no sense.

That being said... being banned for talking about a patch that will be released anyway is overkill and pointless. It's not like you can take information and exploit the game accordingly.

They fixed the delection and losing combo points for the rogue. Exactly HOW is it bad to relay that information to someone else?

"Pimgib's Collar is now unique." :O HOW DARE YOU MENTION THIS! BANNED!! That's against our RULES!

Well... sorry, doesn't make sense... rules or not.

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Not only that, but don't they release the patch weeks in advance on test servers to give UI developers time to update their interfaces accordingly? I have yet to see a good reason why this is a bannable offense other than the "because I said so" factor.
Man, you remind of me when I was 21 when I wanted to bring over my girlfriend over the night and my Dad said no simly because his house, his rules

Their house, their rule
TFProject is Halx's house, his rule

Same prinicple

Btw, I'm 21
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Old 04-08-2005, 10:44 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Blizzard doesn't want the patch notes released for a simple reason: they're not the final patch notes. They are NOT final. In other words, these patch notes WILL change before patch time, and sure enough, Blizzard fanboys and haters are going to bitch and moan that these aren't correct.

Blizzard is simply taking precausions to prevent the flaming of their company over incomplete, leaked patch notes. Now that these are out, the patch will change a bit, and <B>I guarantee the flamers are going to be whining that these pre-emptive notes weren't the truth even though Blizzard warned against trusting them.</B>
Bingo. I was part of an operating system beta test for some consumer hardware. I had to sign a non-disclosure about everything I was doing, and they were nice enough to explain it in similar terms to what Lasereth said. It's a beta. They might pull some of the features from the final release if they don't work.
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Old 04-09-2005, 03:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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retailation is for people who have too much time on their hands.

if you wanna play in life, you gotta play by the rules or it's not fair for anyone.
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I can't believe conversation has continued on this long about a person being banned. Shauk, you did get what you had coming. Everyone makes mistakes, however. Next time use your head...
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Old 04-13-2005, 11:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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oh well, I'm not sore, I got pissed over it for all of half an hour (long enough to post this) and then went the bed.. Next day, life as normal.. The notes didnt change, and they are up on the site now. I'm on the test server now as well so whatever. I got to do it one better, instead of reading about them, Im playing with them

"Buk"

It wasn't the BNET forums.

Anyways, point it moot now, its in the past, I felt it a little reactionary of them to totally kick me off the site for 24 hours but whatever. I know now that you don't argue semantics with the almighty blizzard.

Furthermore Heres another example of thier semantic twisting.


"The effects of flasks and elixirs are no longer dispellable. This should make their use more compelling in PvP situations"

They were very specific. Yet someone actually asked if this included potions (like frost/fire/shadow absorb potions)

On the test server, the answer is, Potions are still dispelled. So they are a bit peeved about this.

The official word was posted on this recently also saying "The patch notes did not specify potions were not immune to dispel"

So, Shamans are still overpowered
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