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FngKestrel · 01-06-2005, 02:48 AM

So I've been playing Knights of the Old Republic 2 for the past couple of nights. Aggressively. It's a fun game. Sucks me in just like the first one did. BUT, not every Star Wars game is so good. When it comes to Star Wars games, they're hit or miss, like Star Trek movies.

So I give you a list of the good Star Wars games (in no particular order):
X-Wing (PC)
Tie Fighter (PC)
X-Wing vs Tie Fighter (PC)
X-Wing Alliance (PC)
KOTOR 1 and 2 (XBOX, PC)
Star Wars (ARCADE)
The Return of the Jedi (ARCADE)
Dark Forces
Dark Forces 2 : Jedi Knight (is this the same as Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy?)
Jedi Knight 2 : Jedi Outcast (aka Dark Forces 3?

)
Pod Racer (N64)

Bad Star Wars games? (up for debate):
Masters of Teras Kasi (PS)
Bounty Hunter (ALL CURRENT)
Obi-wan (XBOX)

But I haven't touched upon the MMORPG, the SNES games, or the rest of the Star Wars universe. Anyone have any comments? Am I just a crackhead with my choices? I want to hear some discussion before Lucas runs his franchise into the ground completely.

kiwiman · 01-06-2005, 02:58 AM

What about that Battlegrounds game that used the Age of Empires engine? It wasn't exactly terrible..

Also, Rebel Assault 2 deserves to be in the second list.

aphex140 · 01-06-2005, 04:17 AM

star wars battle front and clone wars on the XBOX and rogue squadren on the Cube are qwality

too many related star war tie ins ( jedi starfighter XBOX {?}) absolute pants both in terms of game play and storyline

Kadath · 01-06-2005, 05:57 AM

kiwiman: SW Galactic Battlegrounds was decent RTS fun. I'd put it on the good side.

To add to the good list:
Rogue Leader.

The bad list:
Rebel Strike(except for the multi-player Rogue Leader, that was gold.)
Shadows of the Empire
Rebellion
Pretty much all the movie titled games, although I have a soft spot in my heart for Super SW, ESB and RoTJ on the Super Nintendo even though they sucked.
Yoda Stories
Jedi Power Battles
BATTLEFRONT(god what disappointing crap)

Oof. LucasArts is definitely more miss than hit, although I agree with FngKestrel about the good ones, so maybe it's fifty-fifty.

aphex140 · 01-06-2005, 07:44 AM

no way what was up with battlefront was qwality the sound samples etc

what did you not get on with ?

Coppertop · 01-06-2005, 11:47 AM

Oh yeah baby!

It definitely belongs on the first list.

Bobaphat · 01-06-2005, 12:09 PM

I really enjoyed bounty hunter... I've only played Battlefront for a couple of times so far, but I am not really sure how to feel about it yet

t3m3st · 01-06-2005, 12:32 PM

I hated Rouge Squadron 3. It was a little of the old games combined with a whole lot of Robotron style play.

ggadgit · 01-06-2005, 12:50 PM

x-wing alliance is good and to make it better look at.
http://www.xwaupgrade.com/

FngKestrel · 01-06-2005, 12:58 PM

Dude, a sit down version of Star Wars arcade game! I used to play it standing up and would be twitching so much at the end that my knees would shake.

And X-Wing Alliance remade? cool! Hopefully they'll have 2 people in the same ship this time around!

I went to the CA Extreme Classic Gaming Expo last year and found Empire Strikes Back in the arcade, done in the same style of the vector graphics as Star Wars. Mixed feelings. It was a little too convoluted to pick up easily.

jvwgtr · 01-06-2005, 01:16 PM

I keep wanting to like Battlefront, but I get tired of it pretty fast and switch over to one of the Battlefield games instead. I don't know what it is that makes it so frustrating.

Ace_O_Spades · 01-06-2005, 01:47 PM

Aww... I actually LIKED Rebellion a lot... It was a lot of fun...

All my friends liked it too... Guess we're in the small minority.

glytch · 01-06-2005, 01:49 PM

I love just about every Star Wars game ever made. That being said, how could Super Bombad Racing not have been mentioned on the "bad" list yet? Bombad Racing? What the heck is that?

Coppertop · 01-06-2005, 02:00 PM

I didn't like Rebellion. In fact, I gave it away. I did, however, enjoy playing The Phantom Menace. Go figure.

Derwood · 01-06-2005, 02:00 PM

Clone Wars on Xbox was a pile of crap. Terrible framerate for a machine with such good graphics

Ace_O_Spades · 01-06-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop

I didn't like Rebellion. In fact, I gave it away. I did, however, enjoy playing The Phantom Menace. Go figure.

I liked playing that game too

Especially the Mos Espa level

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ARRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH GET AWAY!!!!

Coppertop · 01-06-2005, 02:07 PM

Yeah, I loved hearing the little kid say "Nice laser sword mister" when I drew my lightsaber to kill him. Hehe, oops.

Ace_O_Spades · 01-06-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop

Yeah, I loved hearing the little kid say "Nice laser sword mister" when I drew my lightsaber to kill him. Hehe, oops.

hahaha yeah... too bad it took till KOTOR till stuff like this could be properly implemented

japhyryder · 01-06-2005, 02:26 PM

Most of the problems with Starwars games isn't the concept of the game it is the EXTREMELY poor quality of the game

FngKestrel · 01-06-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by glytch

I love just about every Star Wars game ever made. That being said, how could Super Bombad Racing not have been mentioned on the "bad" list yet? Bombad Racing? What the heck is that?

Never played it, so I didn't feel qualified to condemn it. But it did look pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by japhyryder

Most of the problems with Starwars games isn't the concept of the game it is the EXTREMELY poor quality of the game

Yeah, the flight sims were done by Totally Games!, who did a good job. Bioware and Obsidian do a good treatment as well. Not sure who developed those other games. Maybe some mini developer just grateful to have the license.

Kadath · 01-06-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aphex140

no way what was up with battlefront was qwality the sound samples etc

what did you not get on with ?

How can we speak the same language and yet not understand each other? Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?

Battlefront was clumsy, the AI was abysmal, the weapons were dull, the whole thing just made me not want to play. They did fix the connection client to some degree, but it's still not fun. Not quality.

Kodega · 01-06-2005, 09:50 PM

What pisses me off is Lucas Arts canceling games like Sam and Max 2 and Full Throttle 2 to pump out more crappy Star Wars games.

However, back on topic Star Wars: Demolition for PS1 was horrible Twisted Metal clone.

Edit: Softened some words.

Willravel · 01-06-2005, 10:27 PM

I really need help. I started playing StarWars: Battlefront like 6 or 7 weeks ago. Since then I''ve only stopped for food, bathroom, sex, and work.

Battlefront (which is the best mod of Battlefield) is by far my favorite StarWars Game. Now if only Blizzard can come up with a Starcraft type strat verion with StarWars.

TheFu · 01-06-2005, 10:33 PM

I like Battlefront on Xbox live. The campaign mode sucks in my opinion. There just isn't enough there. I finished it in a day and I wanted my money back until I played it on Live.

pinoychink790 · 01-06-2005, 10:36 PM

yeah, i agree. the campaign didn't last that long. but the live makes up for it

aberkok · 01-06-2005, 10:42 PM

Ah...memories of X-Wing. I'm pretty sure that's the game that caused me to need glasses.

pinoychink790 · 01-06-2005, 10:43 PM

what's wrong with x-wing???

t3m3st · 01-06-2005, 11:29 PM

What was that one with the pit droids? You had to make stuff or something... I don't remember. That was pretty lame. Had it on some demo disc...

pinoychink790 · 01-06-2005, 11:31 PM

i don't know about that one. it doesn't sound too familiar with me. have you tried searching the web?

FngKestrel · 01-06-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by t3m3st

What was that one with the pit droids? You had to make stuff or something... I don't remember. That was pretty lame. Had it on some demo disc...

Is this it?
http://www.lucaslearning.com/products/pitdroids.htm

pinoychink790 · 01-06-2005, 11:42 PM

looks like it might be it. is it????

aphex140 · 01-07-2005, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kadath

How can we speak the same language and yet not understand each other? Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?

Battlefront was clumsy, the AI was abysmal, the weapons were dull, the whole thing just made me not want to play. They did fix the connection client to some degree, but it's still not fun. Not quality.

cheers Kadath take a pill !

Xbox live makes this TheFu and pinoychink790 have captured the essence palying against friends make the game.

I agree the campaign is too short bit XBox live makes it work

omega2K4 · 01-07-2005, 12:40 PM

Star Wars Arcade for the Sega 32X was fucking awesome.

Coppertop · 01-07-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by omega2K4

Star Wars Arcade for the Sega 32X was fucking awesome.

Wow. I thought I was the only person who had that.

MPower · 01-07-2005, 02:05 PM

All the Xwing and tie games for pc rocked. Turning on the lightsaber dismemberment on the jedi knight series quadrupled the fun. And the stormtrooper pieces. Battlefield was kinda crappy. The maps were so small the fighters were useless. Course I play flight sims so flying for 10min before even engaging the enemy makes me biased about the cramped maps.

omega2K4 · 01-07-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop

Wow. I thought I was the only person who had that.

Haha. The 32X kicked ass, even though it had only a few decent games. Mortal Kombat II on the 32X was the best version of MK to date, even outclassing the arcade games.

pinoychink790 · 01-07-2005, 08:37 PM

yeah the 32x was cool

thriolith · 01-12-2005, 03:55 PM

KOTOR was good, Jedi Academy wasn't too bad. The battlegrounds game off the AoE engine was fun, it was different. And Battle Front was fun for a bit, but is not nearly as good as a lot of the other multiplayer shooters.

GoldenOuroboros · 01-12-2005, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodega

What pisses me off is Lucas Arts canceling games like Sam and Max 2 and Full Throttle 2 to pump out more crappy Star Wars games.

I loved the Jedi Knight Series, pod racer was interesting, played it a few times at a friends house. Haven't really played many of the others, I remember playing a few tie fighter games and such, but those sort of sims never really grabbed me.

Suave · 01-12-2005, 07:30 PM

I also heartily enjoyed the X-Wing and Tie Fighter series. Dark Forces and Jedi Knight were good as well. The SNES games were incredibly addictive, and I even enjoyed Rebellion (God knows why). Also liked Shadows of the Empire and Rogue Squadron for N64.

01-06-2005, 02:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
FngKestrel Junkie	Good and Bad Star Wars Games. So I've been playing Knights of the Old Republic 2 for the past couple of nights. Aggressively. It's a fun game. Sucks me in just like the first one did. BUT, not every Star Wars game is so good. When it comes to Star Wars games, they're hit or miss, like Star Trek movies. So I give you a list of the good Star Wars games (in no particular order): X-Wing (PC) Tie Fighter (PC) X-Wing vs Tie Fighter (PC) X-Wing Alliance (PC) KOTOR 1 and 2 (XBOX, PC) Star Wars (ARCADE) The Return of the Jedi (ARCADE) Dark Forces Dark Forces 2 : Jedi Knight (is this the same as Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy?) Jedi Knight 2 : Jedi Outcast (aka Dark Forces 3? ) Pod Racer (N64) Bad Star Wars games? (up for debate): Masters of Teras Kasi (PS) Bounty Hunter (ALL CURRENT) Obi-wan (XBOX) But I haven't touched upon the MMORPG, the SNES games, or the rest of the Star Wars universe. Anyone have any comments? Am I just a crackhead with my choices? I want to hear some discussion before Lucas runs his franchise into the ground completely. Last edited by FngKestrel; 01-06-2005 at 10:26 AM..

01-06-2005, 04:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
aphex140 Psycho Location: northamptonshire	star wars battle front and clone wars on the XBOX and rogue squadren on the Cube are qwality too many related star war tie ins ( jedi starfighter XBOX {?}) absolute pants both in terms of game play and storyline __________________ Computers allow us to make more mistakes at a faster rate than any other man-made thing, with the exception of handguns and tequila. [/QUOTE=BAMF]Do they role a die, with a 1/3 chance of being flacid?[/QUOTE]

01-06-2005, 05:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	kiwiman: SW Galactic Battlegrounds was decent RTS fun. I'd put it on the good side. To add to the good list: Rogue Leader. The bad list: Rebel Strike(except for the multi-player Rogue Leader, that was gold.) Shadows of the Empire Rebellion Pretty much all the movie titled games, although I have a soft spot in my heart for Super SW, ESB and RoTJ on the Super Nintendo even though they sucked. Yoda Stories Jedi Power Battles BATTLEFRONT(god what disappointing crap) Oof. LucasArts is definitely more miss than hit, although I agree with FngKestrel about the good ones, so maybe it's fifty-fifty. __________________ it's quiet in here

01-06-2005, 07:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
aphex140 Psycho Location: northamptonshire	no way what was up with battlefront was qwality the sound samples etc what did you not get on with ? __________________ Computers allow us to make more mistakes at a faster rate than any other man-made thing, with the exception of handguns and tequila. [/QUOTE=BAMF]Do they role a die, with a 1/3 chance of being flacid?[/QUOTE]

01-06-2005, 12:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bobaphat whoopity doo Location: Seattle	I really enjoyed bounty hunter... I've only played Battlefront for a couple of times so far, but I am not really sure how to feel about it yet __________________ --size matters not-- yoda

01-06-2005, 02:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
kiwiman Crazy Location: New Zealand	What about that Battlegrounds game that used the Age of Empires engine? It wasn't exactly terrible.. Also, Rebel Assault 2 deserves to be in the second list.

01-06-2005, 11:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Oh yeah baby! It definitely belongs on the first list.

01-06-2005, 12:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
t3m3st Vroom! Location: Toronto	I hated Rouge Squadron 3. It was a little of the old games combined with a whole lot of Robotron style play. __________________ I do it for the rare drops

01-06-2005, 12:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
ggadgit Tilted	x-wing alliance is good and to make it better look at. http://www.xwaupgrade.com/

01-06-2005, 12:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
FngKestrel Junkie	Dude, a sit down version of Star Wars arcade game! I used to play it standing up and would be twitching so much at the end that my knees would shake. And X-Wing Alliance remade? cool! Hopefully they'll have 2 people in the same ship this time around! I went to the CA Extreme Classic Gaming Expo last year and found Empire Strikes Back in the arcade, done in the same style of the vector graphics as Star Wars. Mixed feelings. It was a little too convoluted to pick up easily.

01-06-2005, 01:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
jvwgtr Completely bananas Location: Florida	I keep wanting to like Battlefront, but I get tired of it pretty fast and switch over to one of the Battlefield games instead. I don't know what it is that makes it so frustrating.

01-06-2005, 01:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	Aww... I actually LIKED Rebellion a lot... It was a lot of fun... All my friends liked it too... Guess we're in the small minority. __________________ Feh.

01-06-2005, 01:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
glytch I am not permanent. Location: Tennessee	I love just about every Star Wars game ever made. That being said, how could Super Bombad Racing not have been mentioned on the "bad" list yet? Bombad Racing? What the heck is that? __________________ If you're flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit. - Mitch Hedberg

01-06-2005, 02:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	I didn't like Rebellion. In fact, I gave it away. I did, however, enjoy playing The Phantom Menace. Go figure.

01-06-2005, 02:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Clone Wars on Xbox was a pile of crap. Terrible framerate for a machine with such good graphics __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

01-06-2005, 02:07 PM	#17 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Yeah, I loved hearing the little kid say "Nice laser sword mister" when I drew my lightsaber to kill him. Hehe, oops.

01-06-2005, 02:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	Most of the problems with Starwars games isn't the concept of the game it is the EXTREMELY poor quality of the game __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

01-06-2005, 09:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
Kodega Crazy	What pisses me off is Lucas Arts canceling games like Sam and Max 2 and Full Throttle 2 to pump out more crappy Star Wars games. However, back on topic Star Wars: Demolition for PS1 was horrible Twisted Metal clone. Edit: Softened some words.

01-06-2005, 10:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I really need help. I started playing StarWars: Battlefront like 6 or 7 weeks ago. Since then I''ve only stopped for food, bathroom, sex, and work. Battlefront (which is the best mod of Battlefield) is by far my favorite StarWars Game. Now if only Blizzard can come up with a Starcraft type strat verion with StarWars.

01-06-2005, 10:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
TheFu Crazy	I like Battlefront on Xbox live. The campaign mode sucks in my opinion. There just isn't enough there. I finished it in a day and I wanted my money back until I played it on Live.

01-06-2005, 10:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
pinoychink790 Loser Location: McDonald's Playland	yeah, i agree. the campaign didn't last that long. but the live makes up for it

01-06-2005, 10:42 PM	#26 (permalink)
aberkok “Wrong is right.” Location: toronto	Ah...memories of X-Wing. I'm pretty sure that's the game that caused me to need glasses. __________________ !check out my new blog! http://arkanamusic.wordpress.com Warden Gentiles: "It? Perfectly innocent. But I can see how, if our roles were reversed, I might have you beaten with a pillowcase full of batteries."

01-06-2005, 10:43 PM	#27 (permalink)
pinoychink790 Loser Location: McDonald's Playland	what's wrong with x-wing???

01-06-2005, 11:29 PM	#28 (permalink)
t3m3st Vroom! Location: Toronto	What was that one with the pit droids? You had to make stuff or something... I don't remember. That was pretty lame. Had it on some demo disc... __________________ I do it for the rare drops

01-06-2005, 11:31 PM	#29 (permalink)
pinoychink790 Loser Location: McDonald's Playland	i don't know about that one. it doesn't sound too familiar with me. have you tried searching the web?

01-06-2005, 11:42 PM	#31 (permalink)
pinoychink790 Loser Location: McDonald's Playland	looks like it might be it. is it????

01-07-2005, 12:40 PM	#33 (permalink)
omega2K4 Natalie Portman is sexy. Location: The Outer Rim	Star Wars Arcade for the Sega 32X was fucking awesome. __________________ "While the State exists there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin "Reason has always existed, but not always in a reasonable form."- Karl Marx

01-07-2005, 02:05 PM	#35 (permalink)
MPower Psycho	All the Xwing and tie games for pc rocked. Turning on the lightsaber dismemberment on the jedi knight series quadrupled the fun. And the stormtrooper pieces. Battlefield was kinda crappy. The maps were so small the fighters were useless. Course I play flight sims so flying for 10min before even engaging the enemy makes me biased about the cramped maps.

01-07-2005, 08:37 PM	#37 (permalink)
pinoychink790 Loser Location: McDonald's Playland	yeah the 32x was cool

01-12-2005, 03:55 PM	#38 (permalink)
thriolith Insane Location: Toronto	KOTOR was good, Jedi Academy wasn't too bad. The battlegrounds game off the AoE engine was fun, it was different. And Battle Front was fun for a bit, but is not nearly as good as a lot of the other multiplayer shooters. __________________ - Thriolith

01-12-2005, 07:30 PM	#40 (permalink)
Suave Twitterpated Location: My own little world (also Canada)	I also heartily enjoyed the X-Wing and Tie Fighter series. Dark Forces and Jedi Knight were good as well. The SNES games were incredibly addictive, and I even enjoyed Rebellion (God knows why). Also liked Shadows of the Empire and Rogue Squadron for N64. __________________ "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." - Albert Einstein "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." - Plato Last edited by Suave; 01-12-2005 at 07:33 PM..