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Rdr4evr 12-27-2004 08:42 PM

Most Over-rated Game Of All Time
 
Since we have a most under-rated game of 2004 thread, it is only fair to start a over-rated thread, only this time, list your most over-rated game of all time, not just 2004.

I personally would have to give this reward to Halo. After months of listening to all the hype of "this is the greatest game of all time" and "game of the year" and this and that, I figured, "holy crap, this must be some amazing game!"

I don't have an X-Box so I decided to wait it out till the PC version was released. Anyways, I purchased it when it came out for the PC and after about 1-2 hours of gameplay, I thought to myself, this is the game that everyone is going crazy over?

Not only is Halo one of the worst single player experiences I've ever had the displeasure of playing, but every other aspect of it (I didn't play Mp) was absolute crap!

Never have I played such a repetitive and boring FPS in my life. Every level seemed to be a rehash of the previous level, either that or it was the same level except played in reverse. Not only that, but the amount of enemy re-spawns every 5 seconds was absolutely ridiculous and tedious.

In a nutshell, the gameplay consisted of this: kill 50 enemies, move 10 feet, kill 50 more enemies, move 10 more feet, beat the level, play the same level again in reverse, kill 50 more enemies and so on.

I give the single-player a score of 3/10.

If I hated Halo 1 this much, should I even give Halo 2 a shot, or is it the same garbage?

List your most over-rated game of all time.

Omar12 12-27-2004 09:00 PM

I agree with you on Halo 2.
I was expecting much more.

Nimbletoe 12-27-2004 09:02 PM

First of all, Halo wasn't meant for the PC. If you haven't played it regularly for X-Box, you still haven't experienced it. Also, people don't really play it for single player. The fun parts of it are multi player, and co-op. Halo 2 is even better.

As far as overrated games go, I can't really say. Before I play a game, I make sure to find out if it's good or not, and what's good about it. I don't like to waste my time. Although, I was really dissapointed by FFX-2. Ugh.

buclao 12-27-2004 09:02 PM

I'd say Halo too, but not because of your reasons.

Halo is a GOOD game, not a GREAT game. Halo had nothing groundbreaking or different than any other first-person shooter out there. I just don't understand why people are getting a hard-on over this game when there are other first-person shooters that are original and different from the norm.

FngKestrel 12-27-2004 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimbletoe
First of all, Halo wasn't meant for the PC. If you haven't played it regularly for X-Box, you still haven't experienced it. Also, people don't really play it for single player. The fun parts of it are multi player, and co-op. Halo 2 is even better.

Actually, Halo was developed in 1997 by Bungie for initial release on the Mac, with porting to be done to the PC. Microsoft bought Bungie and held onto Halo so that it could be their flagship title when the X-Box came out, several years later.

Lasereth 12-27-2004 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FngKestrel
Actually, Halo was developed in 1997 by Bungie for initial release on the Mac, with porting to be done to the PC. Microsoft bought Bungie and held onto Halo so that it could be their flagship title when the X-Box came out, several years later.

It doesn't change the fact that the game was still designed for XBox and not the PC. I'm a big-time Halo fan and I put down the craptacular PC version in about 10 minutes. The Xbox version is way better...it's simply unfair to judge a game based on a port that is known to be trash. You also have to remember that Halo came out a damn long time ago. FPS like Halo were simply not on the market at the time. The physics of the game is just now starting to catch on with other FPS. It's not the innovation that Halo is famous for, it's the physics engine, perfect controls, and awesome single-player/multiplayer experience. Saying a game is awesome doesn't mean it's revolutionary...it simply means it does what a FPS should do better than everyone else.

I don't think many games are overrated. Overhyped maybe but not overrated. I'd say the fighting game genre overall is overrated but I just don't like the genre period.

-Lasereth

Ten 12-28-2004 01:45 AM

I think Metroid Prime is pretty overrated. It get's really borring after a while.

titsmurf 12-28-2004 01:54 AM

Chess, it's overrated.

TheShadow 12-28-2004 03:32 AM

Halo 2. By far. People were almost calling it god. It was at most average and kept me interested, even on a multiplayer basis, for maybe a few hours at the most.

bing bing 12-28-2004 04:13 AM

minesweeper.... i just don't see how it's "fun".

Stompy 12-28-2004 08:47 AM

Pong is the most overrated game ever

portwineboy 12-28-2004 10:08 AM

Myst, I really didn't enjoy that and it seemed like it was one of the few games back then to get any mainstream acceptance.

blitz.fenix 12-28-2004 10:21 AM

Mario. I just dont see whats so great about it :o

Mr.Deflok 12-28-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ten
I think Metroid Prime is pretty overrated. It get's really borring after a while.

Where do you live?

Rdr4evr 12-28-2004 12:28 PM

LoL, you gonna hunt him down? :D

Pellaz 12-28-2004 03:08 PM

I vote for a tie between Final Fantasy 8 through x-2.

The franchise came roaring into the modern gaming realm with FF7, which was mind blowing. While I enjoyed 8 for the setting and the rather ballsy style change, loved 9 for the nostalgia, and 10 seemed enjoyable but tedious and more of the same as I watched my wife play through it (and neither one of us has touched x-2, but I'm assuming the same holds true there).

These games have offered little that is new to the franchise, and have actualy devolved in what I consider 'value' complexity (take the magic system-they set the bar high with the materia system, and systematicaly worsened it with every incarnation. Drawing in 8 was interesting but tedious, 9 was a throwback, 10s grid system, while interesting, was unforgiving (which brings me to my next point...))

The 'pointless' complexity, however, has increased dramaticaly as the series has matured through the last two generations. The pinacle of this was hopefully reached in 10. The process for requiring the master weapons were almost all far beyond complex and tedious, and felt like they were added solely to help pad that all important "Over X hours of gameplay" number. The inclusion of this type of thing is not elegant, and it's very purpose is counter to what a game should be.

And yet, somehow, each of these titles has been met with player and critical acclaim over and over again. And with that acceptance, other console rpg developers have split down two paths-cloning the formula of tediousness and pointless complexity over game design, or devolving to the point that they're little more than souped up versions of Gauntlet (not that I don't like Gauntlet).

aa1037 12-28-2004 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth
You also have to remember that Halo came out a damn long time ago. FPS like Halo were simply not on the market at the time.

Halo (11/14/2001) was unique, yes, but to name a few...ahem...comparable games that had been on the market before Halo:

Unreal Tournament (11/30/1999)
Half-Life / Counter-Strike (1998/2000ish)

and that's just off the top of my head.

My argument against Halo (and 2, I guess)

Techincally:
Ok, so Halo had a great story, but Half-Life revolutionized FPS story telling. Halo had fun multiplayer (16 people - if you had 4 xboxes and 4 tvs in one place, or a network tunnel), but UT was already trumping it with player # and game types

Halo 2 is kinda like Halo with some fancier bump mapping. Still tells a nice story (albeit not as good as the first) and whatnot. It allows you to play in some different multiplayer scenarios, but UT2004's multiplayer features are far beyond that of Halo 2.

Also, once you are finished with Halo 2 and worn out on the multiplayer, there isn't much else going for it. Now take a look at Half-Life 2. Solid single player story. However, the Source engine is going to provide us with tons of great mods in the future (CS: Source is pretty nifty already and revitalizes CS for those of us who quit)

Opinion-based:
Halo (2) just seems like a stepping stone to greater PC games out there. I guess I am a PC fanboy, but I feel like consoles are best for sports and fighters and are the weakest at FPS. It's just so irritating when these kids in my dorm get all horny over Halo...I wanna jump in and sit em down with a mouse and a keyboard but I figure they will eventually learn and break away from the dark side. :thumbsup:

just my 2cents...hope this doesn't turn into a flame war :p

omega2K4 12-28-2004 09:06 PM

ANY Final Fantasy game. Its the same shit every single fucking time.

Willravel 12-28-2004 09:28 PM

Hmm. Most overrated of ALL TIME?
-any Doom game
-Sid Meier's Pirates
-Mechwarrior after Mechwarrior 2 (best game of all time, imo)
-Quake/Duke Nukem
-Marathon (1,2, or Infinity)
-You Don't Know Jack (aparently, I knew jack)
-Prince of Persia (besides fluidity, it's completly inferrior to the original)
-All the Warcraft Games (after playing Starcraft, they seem like crap)
-Everquest and all games like it (too huge for words, repetitive, lvl, rvr, etc.)
-Oreagon Trail
-anything involved with or resembeling the pokemon empire

Faygo 12-28-2004 09:29 PM

Halo is pretty damn gay. I played it over my girlfreinds house for about an hour when it first first came out. I thought it was pretty damn weak.

But I tend to hate any FPS on any console. You can't match the keyboard and mouse for just ease and simplicity.

hulk 12-28-2004 09:32 PM

I think the original Half-Life was over-rated. Hugely. Possibly because not many PC gamers ever experienced Marathon, which thoroughly obliterated Half-Life with story.

Luquado 12-28-2004 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titsmurf
Chess, it's overrated.

HURRRR :rolleyes: ....

OK, I :lol:'d, I can't lie.

I might catch flak for agreeing with hulk but: Half Life. I don't get what was so spectacular about the "story" that everyone always spooges over when they start talking about HL1. Yes, it was a more involved story than almost any FPS up to that point, but, c'mon guys, not that much more evolved! The whole concept of "OH SHI an interdimensional portal due to government conspiracy, maybe pie eating, and perhaps a giant alien baby!" or whatever isn't really Shakespeare. I liked HL1, but I still think it's a quite overrated game in that respect. Not in others, mind you.

Of this year I'd have to say Doom III. Yay pretty graphics. Nay to horribly repetitive and boring gameplay.

EDIT to add:
Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
-Oreagon Trail

Awwww hell naw. Oregon Trail gave birth to the Oregon Trail drinking game, which is one of the greatest drinking games of all time. Thus, by association, Oregon Trail doesn't belong on that list.

Paq 12-28-2004 10:17 PM

most over-rated of the year: Doom 3
of my memory, Half life 1...HL2 isn't shaping up to be much better, but the interaction is infinitely more enjoyable...

Halo, to me, is mindless fun, but i missed all the hype over it as i bought it a year or two after it originally came out and didn't pay attention to games for the years prior...

ummmmmmm....as for games that delivered: Rome, Total War, Sims 2...

cataklysm 12-28-2004 11:16 PM

I'll agree with Paq, Doom 3 was definitely the most over-rated. Nothing innovating as far as weapons or levels, and got tedious after a while.

ZenFilthPig 12-29-2004 12:59 AM

For me I'd say the Sims plus any add-ons. I tried to get into it but just couldn't bring myself to play more than 10-15 minutes. Too frustrating.

Judging by the apparent massive sales though... I guess I'm in the minority on this one.

FngKestrel 12-29-2004 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenFilthPig
For me I'd say the Sims plus any add-ons. I tried to get into it but just couldn't bring myself to play more than 10-15 minutes. Too frustrating.

Judging by the apparent massive sales though... I guess I'm in the minority on this one.

Sims...hahahah...you have no idea...

My point about Halo is that it was originally designed for a PC, and then was converted for a console and then ported back to PC. That's like going to Babelfish and taking an English phrase, translating it into Spanish and then translating it back to English. You get a mess. It was also delayed 3 years and wasn't nearly as revolutionary as it could have been if it had been released on time.

I do agree with Lasereth's comments on the physics engine. Bungie has always developed great physics engines with their Myth series of games, and the physics is definitely what caught my eye in their E3 movie way back when.

Viros 12-29-2004 04:03 AM

I would say Doom 3 by far.

Fremen 12-29-2004 10:48 AM

In my opinion, Tetris and Pac-Man were the most overrated of all time.
The same thing to do, all of the time.
Turn and fit the shapes together, eat all the dots and run from the ghosties, ad nauseum.
Good for the doctor's waiting room on a hand held (Tetris), but not worth all those quarters I spent as a kid trying to get good at it. (Pac-Man)

qweds 12-29-2004 11:06 AM

7th legion

wow did that game suck. Or all the age of empire add ons. The first was great but goddamn the had to beat that horse to death.

HL cannot be overated, hundreds of thousands still play counter-strike original which is just a hl mod and the overall, wow what a great game.

oregon trail, well if you're talking about later versions maybe. I used to have an apple 2e, green and black. oregon trail was the shit. hunting buffalo. hot damn those were good times...

Paradise Lost 12-29-2004 11:37 AM

Probably the last 3 Grand Theft Autos ( 3, Vice City, San Andreas ). My brother has both of them, and to tell you the truth, I sat down and maybe played then for about 15 minutes total before I got bored to death. It was always fun to watch a friend or brother
just blow up stuff, but even that got boring after about 20 minutes. So I gave up even
trying to play.

And whoever posted about the FF8-X2 being overly complex and stupid... You are correct! I went back to the original 6, and the simplicity, yet overall grandness of
the games are what made them great. Not some lame stats grid, or mastering weapons, or useless Esper/Magic systems.

Echodork 12-29-2004 04:05 PM

Most overrated game of all time is clearly Final Fantasy 7. As far as the FF series goes, it rates squarely in the middle, below the crafted mastery of 4/5/6 and above the utter spunk that was 8, 11, and X-2. But you can't take two steps on the internet without meeting some kid named xXSephirothXx or J-E-N-o-V-A or some such nonsense. The plot was below average and full of nonsensical holes, with no ending whatsoever. You're telling me you can fight 70 foot tall monsters, summon the king of all dragons, and survive the sun going supernova, but you can't heal a little girl of a single stab wound? Right. Add a classless system where any one character was as good as the next during combat, ten million plastic figurines, and 400 hours of chocobo breeding and what do you get?

The world's most over-rated video game.

Architeuthis 12-29-2004 05:37 PM

There can be only one:

Everquest

Irishsean 12-29-2004 05:40 PM

Myst...

Absolutely sucked...

Glory's Sun 12-29-2004 05:49 PM

I think all games are over-rated.. except for one

and that's Donkey Kong.

Halo is boring
Metorid (any version) is tiresome
GTA is too long
FF is too fancy and time consuming
Fable was dumb
and.. I'll just stop there

Krycheck 12-29-2004 09:28 PM

Doom 3 for me. After about 6-8 hrs of game play it really doesn't change much.

HL2 on the other hand I couldn't put down.

t3m3st 12-29-2004 10:38 PM

I've got to say Halo 2. I enjoyed Halo, but saw that there was a whole lot of room for improvement. I don't think this was as good a sequel as it could have been. The graphics and sound are great. The gameplay, control, and level design just don't sit right with me. And the story is terrible. I didn't like the story in Halo, or the goofy looking aliens, and when people told me the story was much better this time around, I had high hopes. I've got to stop listening to fanboys.

As for Final Fantasy 7, you've got to understand that this was the first time alot of us experienced RPG's. This game and its characters will forever hold a special place in my heart, despite the plot holes and the spelling errors. FF7 did great things for video games and the RPG genre, and spawned a whole bunch of new RPG players.

animal909 12-30-2004 08:53 AM

doom 3 also, game was too dark and with the gamma up, it really made it look crappy. And the power required to play that game... geez.

M.T. Promises 12-30-2004 01:09 PM

Another vote for Myst. What a pile of steam'n boredom. If you could measure the actual hype vs. suck, I don't think any game touches it. Doom3 never got the press Myst did; there was TV News coverage of Myst and its popularity/sales.

Paq 12-30-2004 02:17 PM

ahh, all time...definitely myst...I forgot just HOW much hype was around that game and that i even bought it back in the day.

I ended up giving it to my gf who finished it in a few days. I barely had the patience to get through the first puzzle...

LLL2 12-30-2004 04:43 PM

I got to say Warcraft 3.That game just felt like everything that they made like the first 2 warcrafts and starcraft.Plus you could only have small armies.

hulk 12-30-2004 07:34 PM

I dunno about Myst, that series has always delivered exactly what it promised - slide-show puzzling =)

Chupes 12-30-2004 10:03 PM

Halo's definitely one of my favorites, but it is also one of the most overrated games.

NeverBorn 12-30-2004 10:22 PM

I don't think we should start threads like this, it really leads to stupid mouths and sometimes rampant fanboyism.

Echodork 12-31-2004 06:23 AM

I just like to poke and prod until a fanboy comes out swinging. I'm surprised I didn't get one with my FF7 post. Usually it works every time.

Bratwurst 12-31-2004 01:04 PM

Final Fantasy VII. I don't understand what was so fantastic about it.

Ace_O_Spades 12-31-2004 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echodork
I just like to poke and prod until a fanboy comes out swinging. I'm surprised I didn't get one with my FF7 post. Usually it works every time.

How do you feel about FF9?

You didn't rate it.

CyCo PL 12-31-2004 11:24 PM

Goldeneye 007 on n64

zensheep 01-01-2005 01:43 AM

I am going to have to chime in with Halo as well. Granted I played very little of the single player game, and I've heard that it's a good story, but I could never get into multiplayer and the 2 or 3 hours I played single player didn't really make me want to play much more.

Frosstbyte 01-02-2005 12:32 AM

The top of my list would have to be Halo and the GTA series. I haven't played Halo 2 yet, so I can't comment, but I just don't get the interest in these games. I'll try to be brief.

Halo:
It looks pretty, I'll give it that, and the concept is delightfully cool, though doesn't play out quite as well as I would've liked. But the gameplay was utterly blah. I hated going backwards and forwards through so many of the levels. I HATED the Flood. WORST ENEMIES EVER. Especially in the harder difficulty levels, they just were a huge pain in the ass and not at all fun or interesting to fight. I've played through Half Life three or four times and love it every time. Same with Deus Ex and Max Payne. There are just moments in those games that put a huge smile on my face. I never get that with Halo. I understand that much of its draw was multiplayer, but I had a lot more fun in UT and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I guess (as someone else said) I'm just a PC gamer when it comes to FPS. The console FPS games I play just don't do it for me. I'll drive or sport or RPG, but give me a mouse and a keyboard for FPS and I'll be a much happier person.

GTA:
What the fuck is it with these games? I've played all of them and spent hours watching other people play them. I DON'T GET IT! Sure, you can drive around in a huge, immersive world and do all kinds of random shit, but I just cannot see what people find so enjoyable about them. I have a friend who kills basically everyone he can get away with every time. He'll go into a store, kill everyone, go outside, come back in, kill everyone again. He will repeat this for hours at a time, which a shit-eating grin plastered across his face the whole time. How is that fun? From the other people I've seen play, this seems to be pretty typical behavior. Just mind blowing. I can't really give a coherent justification for why I don't really like these games, they just rub me the wrong way.

On a final FF related note, I quite enjoyed 9, X and X-2 (though I'm not finished with X-2 quite yet), but damn do they need to cut the bullshit with getting people's "last weapons." Beating the games, especially the optional side dungeons, gets to be hard as hell if you don't have the 9999 damage break to 99999, but getting the items to do that is awful. The hours I spent dodging lightning bolts, digging with chocabos, dodging birds and getting balloons while riding chocabos are ones I can never have back. In fact, that's really what's stopping me from playing FFX again. I'd love to do it, but I'd want to have those items, and lacking a console from which I can just cheat them in, no way I'll be doing that. Tedium is BAD and should not be a deliberate part of game design.

Tycow 01-02-2005 01:40 PM

Deus Ex 2....

I waited for that for years, and it was pap :(

Willravel 01-02-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
GTA:
What the fuck is it with these games? I've played all of them and spent hours watching other people play them. I DON'T GET IT! Sure, you can drive around in a huge, immersive world and do all kinds of random shit, but I just cannot see what people find so enjoyable about them. I have a friend who kills basically everyone he can get away with every time. He'll go into a store, kill everyone, go outside, come back in, kill everyone again. He will repeat this for hours at a time, which a shit-eating grin plastered across his face the whole time. How is that fun? From the other people I've seen play, this seems to be pretty typical behavior. Just mind blowing. I can't really give a coherent justification for why I don't really like these games, they just rub me the wrong way.

AMEN!!! I don't know one person who doesn't use cheat codes on that piece of crap. I've really given each of the GTA games a fair shot. I can't stand them. Redundant, absurd, unnecessary violence (if I'm going to kill someone in a game, I have to have a good reason), these games are the stuff of ignorance and needlessness.

bloodyhawks 01-02-2005 04:05 PM

Me too i would have to go with GTA. What is the goal of this game anyway? Sure you can walk around and kill everyone but...what's the point of it? If you like that kind of thing, you should play games like morrowind. At least in that game you can discover a lot of fun thing while running around.

I most also say that i find price of percia 1 & 2 pretty overrated. I played about 4 hours of the first and 3 of the second and i grew tired of repeating the same exact moves. and what is so special about the combat system. It'S nothing new. And what is the thrill of repeating the same thing 4-5 times in a row because you have to do acrobatic jumps and then after kill a lot of monster before you can save. I dont like it when the only thing that i can think of is:I am going to get to a save point soon? This kind of thing doesnt make me appreciate a game. All the stress made me want to rush to the next save point, without enjoying the game

There is also Ghost reccon that i find verry borring. I got it with Splinter cells 2 when i bought xbox live. I dont get this game.i mean i like rainbow six and that kind of game but this game is just not interresting. It is slow, it's hard to see where the ennemies are and to what i heard there is like 5 or 6 missions. If thats is true, this REALLY SUCK. Why would someone what to buy a game whre there is only 5 or 6 missions. I like it when a game is long, thats one of the criteria when i buy a game. I bought Kotor 1 (40 hours), kotor 2 (45 hours), Morrowind (+/- 90 hours done in 1 year)

So for me my overrated list is:
1)Gta
2)Prince of percia
3) Ghost recon

777 01-03-2005 12:11 AM

I'd have to say that the crappiest, best selling game has to be...

drum roll please...

Enter the Matrix

Least fun I've had getting stuck into a wall.

Justsomeguy 01-03-2005 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimbletoe
First of all, Halo wasn't meant for the PC. If you haven't played it regularly for X-Box, you still haven't experienced it. Also, people don't really play it for single player. The fun parts of it are multi player, and co-op. Halo 2 is even better.

100% correct. People that play Halo for the single player game are retarded. Halo is fun with 4 people. However, the more people you have and the more skilled the players the more fun it is. We used to load up 16 people using system links. I haven't played much of Halo 2 yet, but it really does not have to be that much better than Halo to be a great game.

Do remember that many people that read this board love Everquest, Everquest 2, and World of Warcraft. It's hard to take anyone's word that enjoys sitting in exp grinding groups for 20 hours straight or that joins a guild so that they can improve their gear in 6 months if they play 100+ hours a week.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Architeuthis
There can be only one:

Everquest

Amen!

hulk 01-03-2005 02:24 AM

Halo in MP isn't any more fun than most other MP-based games. The reason it took off was because it was the only game of it's style on the X-Box, selling on that merit and not much more. When compared to PC shooters, it's a pretty big case of 'seen it all before'.

lordpoopshank 01-03-2005 09:02 AM

Agreed with Myst being extremely overrated, not to mention the fact that in the time it takes to beat that game a person could have read the entire dictionary. In defense of Halo 2 though, the Xbox live features are outstanding. If you dont have Live, welp sorry - its definitely the feature that defines that game.

Booboo 01-05-2005 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Justsomeguy
100% correct. People that play Halo for the single player game are retarded. Halo is fun with 4 people. However, the more people you have and the more skilled the players the more fun it is. We used to load up 16 people using system links. I haven't played much of Halo 2 yet, but it really does not have to be that much better than Halo to be a great game.

Do remember that many people that read this board love Everquest, Everquest 2, and World of Warcraft. It's hard to take anyone's word that enjoys sitting in exp grinding groups for 20 hours straight or that joins a guild so that they can improve their gear in 6 months if they play 100+ hours a week.


Amen!

Just because Some of us may play World of Warcraft or another MMORPG (which I think ARE fun) doesn't mean we do it for 20hours straight. =P WoW especially is one of the exceptions, where you dont have to play that long to progress. (I work 9-5 and usually get home anywhere between 8-11 and I am moving along fine)

Btw Halo/Halo 2 are definitely great games. It seems like some people dont give them enough of a chance... and if you are complaining about the controls I dont think you've played it enough. I love FPS's on PC's as well, but you feel so much more connected with whats going on when the controls seem like normal body functions. Get headshots with a sensitivity of 8 or 9 in halo 1 (would not recommend that in halo 2) and then say its a sucky game. playing single player for 3 hours is not going to let you really experience Halo. (at least play co-op if not Online). You should play games through and experience all aspects before you judge it too harshly . Btw this is not a flame in any way.. its just that I really want to hear what you guys and gals think are the most over-rated games out there... but you need to PLAY the game before I take stock in your opinion about it.

thanks

oh, and the over-rated thing... I'll agree with FF7

Rdr4evr 01-05-2005 12:36 PM

I probably wasn't specific enough, but I stated that I got bored of Halo after a couple hours, but I actually played the whole thing through (because I'm anal) and I still thought it was utter trash. As a matter of fact, it got worse with each level.

Booboo 01-05-2005 12:45 PM

Did you play co-op at all? or Multiplayer?... I know people who completely hated the single player but are addicted to MP

Rdr4evr 01-05-2005 01:01 PM

Oh no, I stated that in my original post......I didn't touch MP, just SP. I'm sure the MP is great, but as far SP goes, it was horrendous.

soccerchamp76 01-05-2005 01:06 PM

To experience Halo 2, you need xbox Live. Once you face people across the country in various games (assault, capture the flag, slayer, oddball), you haven't lived.

That said, Myst is the most overrated game.

portwineboy 01-05-2005 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justsomeguy
Do remember that many people that read this board love Everquest, Everquest 2, and World of Warcraft. It's hard to take anyone's word that enjoys sitting in exp grinding groups for 20 hours straight or that joins a guild so that they can improve their gear in 6 months if they play 100+ hours a week.

This has got to be one of the most incorrect statements I've read in a long time. This isn't the shacknews forum. First of all, I don't think there are that many EQ/EQ2 fans on the board or if there are, they aren't that active about posting about how great those products are.

Secondly, this isn't some fan boy site where people make outrageous statements with no backing. TFP is about discussion and if you read the threads you will find that people disagree/agree/debate whatever. People here have opinions and like to express them. If you find some inplausible reason why you can't take our word for something, well, you are missing out.

Finally MANY people love WoW, I think Gamespot named it game of the year. I've played with the TFP folks/been in their guild and to say we were "exp grinding groups for 20 hours straight" or "play 100+ hours a week" is just plain wrong again. It was about having fun, helping each other out and kicking some ass in PvP.

Coppertop 01-05-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by soccerchamp76
To experience Halo 2, you need xbox Live. Once you face people across the country in various games (assault, capture the flag, slayer, oddball), you haven't lived.

That said, Myst is the most overrated game.

Chalk me up as having not lived then. :rolleyes:

I felt the same way about TFC back in the day. It passes.

LLL2 01-05-2005 04:57 PM

You know i said warcraft 3 earlier ,but i'm going have to change that,My pick for most over rated games of all times from one company is going have to be, EA GAMES.I know they put out alot of pcgames, but most of them suck.

aberkok 01-05-2005 09:22 PM

Halo 2...Oh SNNNNNNNNNAAAP! One day PC Gaming buffs and Xbox loyalists should be able to have a FPS smackdown: Mouse/Keyboard Combo vs. Xbox controller. Then we'll see...

Then we'll see...

eyeswimslow 01-06-2005 12:58 AM

Wow, didn't know that many people hated Halo 1/2. I, like a lot of others, love the game and can't get enough of it. I'll say this, the single player sucks nuts, is reptitive, easy, and not fun. I haven't had so much fun playing multiplayer in anything though.

While I love Final Fantasy VII, I think it is pretty GD overrated. I think old school RPGers (not that I am one) hated it because its switch to the whole modern motif, which I didn't mind personally. Materia system was decent. Let's be honest, the plot didn't fucking make one bit of sense. Who the fuck is Cloud, really? Oh well. Characters could be made friggin uber gods with stat maxing and when all was said and done, the best limit breaks (aka Cloud Yuffie Cid) made up the best party. It did do a lot for the game genre, I will agree, but in my mind, FFVI/III, Chrono Trigger, and made even FFIX make up my favorite RPGs.

Stompy 01-06-2005 08:46 AM

These threads are pretty funny, to say the least, but kind of annoying at the same time :lol:

I think a lot of people misunderstand what "overrated" means.

It's just a WEE bit unusual to see Final Fantasy 7, Metroid Prime, and GTA (to name a few) listed as "overrated" games. Overrated how? These are games that have (or will) stand the test of time that people will think back and say, "goddamn, that was a GREAT game.."

These games excel in every aspect of entertainment - story itself, sound, gameplay, graphics (for the time), and overall fun. Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean it's overrated.

Metroid Prime... I mean, that's easily one of the best games of all time, right up there with Ocarina of Time, GTA, Final Fantasy 4, FF7, etc. It doesn't offer anything too terribly new in terms of graphics or innovation, but it's a Metroid game - it focuses on exploration, item finding, backtracking, boss battles, etc... It meets AND beats all previous titles, hands down. It might not seem that way because the nostalgia of something like Super Metroid might be lingering, but in today's gaming scene, it's damn good.

That being said, there are some games where people kinda overlooked the fact that it had been done before. Halo is one of them. It's an okay game and all, it's not bad or anything, but it really isn't any different from any other FPS at ALL. I really don't get why people flock to this game. The story is mediocre and... it's an FPS. FPS games got old years ago. It's as if people who played Halo NEVER played Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, or Half Life, which is kind of odd... I cringe whenever another FPS is released. The first thing I wonder is, "What's new in this game that should make me want to play it?" I wouldn't have touched Doom 3 if it wasn't for the fact it was scary as shit. Quake 4? Unless it offers something worthwhile and revolutionary, I probably won't bat an eye at it. Same with Halo when it came out. No one can seem to explain exactly why this game is different aside from "well my friend likes it, so I like it."

Gabbyness 01-06-2005 08:55 AM

Not excited about Quake4?

I disagree.

Coppertop 01-06-2005 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabbyness
Not excited about Quake4?

I disagree.

I disagree. Dis-disagree? Whatever, DM got old a long time ago. Yeah, it can be fun, for a few minutes. But it's been done to death. If it turns out to be the same ol' same ol' I won't be there. If I want deathmatch I'll play me some Counter-Strike online. :D

Stompy 01-06-2005 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabbyness
Not excited about Quake4?

I disagree.

Why? Tell me what's going to be in it that'll make it worthwhile and not "just another FPS".

Mantus 01-06-2005 03:19 PM

Half Life fore sure. A lame ass story with lame ass gameplay yet every one jizzed over it. Okay so Valve were the first - the first to successfully market an FPS with a dull plot that was probably contrived durring a bathroom break. And they won awards for that. What a world we live in.

crossova 01-10-2005 09:41 AM

GTA - can we get a multiplayer mode for cryin outloud....and step up the graphics.

Grand Turismo - just over rated...needs no reason why

Bratwurst 01-10-2005 09:48 AM

I see people asking for multiplayer in GTA a lot, and maybe I am short sighted, but I just don't see the application. People would just sit and snipe each other from rooftops all day. Co-op mode? No thanks.

Coppertop 01-10-2005 11:34 AM

GTA:VC on the PC has a multiplayer mod. It's basically deathmatch with cars and there are civilans running about.

What about over-hyped games? Can you say Daikatana?

Bodyhammer86 01-10-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop
What about over-hyped games? Can you say Daikatana?

Man, they delayed that game for so many years and when it finally came out, it sucked complete ass. and judging by the delay for Duke Nukem Forever, it might end up like Daikatana.

Rdr4evr 01-10-2005 01:25 PM

If DNF ends up like Daikatana (which I doubt), 3drealms is done for.

Bodyhammer86 01-10-2005 01:31 PM

Well, if it's been in development for like six years now, it better be fucking good when it comes out.

Rdr4evr 01-10-2005 01:44 PM

Agreed, I am expecting no less than the greatest FPS ever released. If not, it will be a dissappointment.

charlesesl 01-10-2005 05:44 PM

GTA wasnt over rated. It had a huge city, the ability to jack any car (boar and plane) and kill any thing. When it first came out in 1997, this kind of freedoma and interactivity was unheard of at that time. The basic formula hasnt changed much for all these years, but neither has any other genre. When you look at fps, it all boils down to point and shoot. When you look at rpg (jap), it all boils down to fighting repetive battles and saving the world. Jaking cars and running people over is fun, and that s what the GTA series is all about.

DownwardSpiral 01-11-2005 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eyeswimslow

Let's be honest, the plot didn't fucking make one bit of sense. Who the fuck is Cloud, really?

In defense of Final Fantasy VII, the plot made sense to me. It isn't that hard to figure out who Cloud was, they told you the story of that in the game itself.

sgn43 01-12-2005 03:26 AM

Totally agree with Halo being overrated. FPS just don't really impress me all that much anymore. The last FPS that I played that really seemed like it was a big difference from previous games of the genre was GoldenEye for N64, and that's only because that was the first time I was exposed to 4 player multiplayer with all the different modes.


I'd also have to say that GTA:Vice City was pretty overrated. Well, maybe not so much overrated as definitely did not live up to the hype for me. It did make some nice improvements, but it really just felt like a barely past half-assed rehash of GTA3. It might have just been over the extreme excitement over the game and the belief that it may just be the greatest game of all time.

j. dakar 01-12-2005 03:45 AM

halo/halo 2 --- i just don't see what the big deal is.

Man/Amazing 01-12-2005 07:44 AM

Halo 2, i was expecting so much more from this hyped piece of crap.

nohitters 02-08-2005 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by omega2K4
ANY Final Fantasy game. Its the same shit every single fucking time.

For the most part, Omega, I agree. The final fantasy's are all based off of the same story line but you have to admit, FFVII was one of the best games of all time

Personally, I have to say most overrated game of all time has to be Greg Hasting's Tournament Paintball. That game was a no good, pile of shit, waste of space!

SitizenVZ 02-08-2005 10:34 PM

Yes, halo2 was definately way more hype than it was worth. The ending especially ruined it for me.

Robaggio 02-08-2005 11:17 PM

Halo 1/2.

FPS's for people with crappy computers or no computer at all.
Don't get me started on how little skill the game takes to make par- it has a very low plateu in the professional gaming scene. Pros play Halo to make money (microsoft sponsored 50grand tournies...), and they play other FPS games to regain their sanity/skill.

On the plus side, the game is extremely well polished. It IS a fun game to play, however, if you're at the any least bit competative, its low celing is too hard to live with.

Zelda: Windwaker
The atmosphere was great. The game was very well done- very well polished just like Halo. The game's challenge was rediculously easy. Exploration was stupid- sail an extra 10 minutes to another island with a stupid obvious puzzle. "Oh, there's a rock with a crack on it. Maybe I should bomb it?" Really, the puzzles were insulting- but then again, the game's probably geared towards people younger than me. (but that doesn't explain why people my age worship it) :rolleyes:

hulk 02-09-2005 03:39 AM

With Zelda:TWW, it wasn't really Nintendo that spread the hype, but crazed game reviewers and industry 'experts' that didn't want to point out the fact that it really is aimed at young'uns. I played through the entire game without dying once, in fact, the only thing I've died to in the game is a pig that I turned hostile.

That said, it does play really, really well, and I'm looking forward to the engine in the next one, which won't be so easy ;)

Stompy 02-11-2005 08:30 AM

Yeah, Wind Waker is a good choice.

It seems like Nintendo is making Zelda for 6 year olds, now.

*sigh*

I wish they'd at least let you change puzzle difficulty.

FngKestrel 02-11-2005 01:02 PM

Yeah, interviews with Shigeru Miyamoto do quote him as saying that he wanted to make a game that everyone (including kids) could finish. The next Zelda looks pretty crazy though, not aimed at 6 year olds, that's for sure.

Rdr4evr 02-11-2005 01:26 PM

The next Zelda is going to actually be rated T...a first in the Zelda series.

tspikes51 02-14-2005 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdr4evr
Since we have a most under-rated game of 2004 thread, it is only fair to start a over-rated thread, only this time, list your most over-rated game of all time, not just 2004.

I personally would have to give this reward to Halo. After months of listening to all the hype of "this is the greatest game of all time" and "game of the year" and this and that, I figured, "holy crap, this must be some amazing game!"

I don't have an X-Box so I decided to wait it out till the PC version was released. Anyways, I purchased it when it came out for the PC and after about 1-2 hours of gameplay, I thought to myself, this is the game that everyone is going crazy over?

Not only is Halo one of the worst single player experiences I've ever had the displeasure of playing, but every other aspect of it (I didn't play Mp) was absolute crap!

Never have I played such a repetitive and boring FPS in my life. Every level seemed to be a rehash of the previous level, either that or it was the same level except played in reverse. Not only that, but the amount of enemy re-spawns every 5 seconds was absolutely ridiculous and tedious.

In a nutshell, the gameplay consisted of this: kill 50 enemies, move 10 feet, kill 50 more enemies, move 10 more feet, beat the level, play the same level again in reverse, kill 50 more enemies and so on.

I give the single-player a score of 3/10.

If I hated Halo 1 this much, should I even give Halo 2 a shot, or is it the same garbage?

List your most over-rated game of all time.

You played it on the PC, and didn't play MP at a LAN party, so you wouldn't understand.

tspikes51 02-14-2005 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenFilthPig
For me I'd say the Sims plus any add-ons. I tried to get into it but just couldn't bring myself to play more than 10-15 minutes. Too frustrating.

I'm with you here... my deluxe edition has been stowed away since a week after I started playing it.

Destrox 02-15-2005 05:09 AM

Tie breaker between Halo (1/2) , Myst Series, and Doom 3.

Oh and yes I played it on a Xbox, speaking of which, no FPS should ever go on a console again for its own pride.

Keist 03-01-2005 10:05 PM

Remeber all that hype before dikatana? ....yeah.

Eight 03-02-2005 04:00 AM

Few really -
Duke Nukem forever (if it ever appears, lol)
Doom3 (nice looking, crap game play)
Half Life 2 - Was ok but mega over hyped.

03-10-2005 03:32 AM

i think the halo series at all is overrated. but i think a lot of games are really overrated. videogames have potential to be really fucking good, but noone ever tries to make them that new or exciting, or they do try but they just fail. devil may cry was fucking amazing, but they really messed it up when they tried to do it again. and then choas leigion, which i'd like to be able to say i like, but i really don't. one good game makes a new impact on the world of gaming, then a bunch of other people try and copy it until it gets old... and sometimes something good comes out of it. but it's always the new, fresh ideas that are worth playing. and halo was just... the same first person shooter i've ever played. there was nothing new or interesting about it, GOD you cant even RUN. i hate halo.

Gabbyness 03-10-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Keist
Remeber all that hype before dikatana? ....yeah.

Daikatana for the win!!!!

userasdf1234 03-10-2005 07:47 PM

Halo's single player is so crap IMO. The multiplayer was the shit though. I can't really say much about Halo2 b/c i haven't played that one that much.

guy44 03-10-2005 09:16 PM

Myst takes this one in a landslide.

Paradise Lost 03-10-2005 09:38 PM

I can't really think of any truely over-hyped game, why, because all of the ones people
have seem to have listed so far sold TREMENDOUSLY. Whether or not you think its over-
hyped is moot, because the fact is 9/10 people still play those games like mad.

If a game sold badly, and only 5% of the owners of the game actually did like it, then
we could qualify it as over-hyped, but from my general knowledge, this really doesn't
happen.

Although, if anything, I might... MIGHT say Doom 3. Because even though most
people think its awesome from purely a graphics stand-point, the replay value is almost
zero and it considered to be a generally bad game, gameplay wise.

Also, for people who yell at the Final Fantasy series, you have to understand
that the people who play/hype them are nerds. You have to be to like
Role Playing games. It's all extremely repetitive from a rules standpoint.
Where it gets fun is story-line, tactics, gameplay, etc. So while
the fact that you have to fight, cast spells, and fight enemies never changes,
the way you fight, cast spells, and attack enemies and how you interact
with your environment changes from game to game. The people who play
Dungeons and Dragons do the same thing over and over again, but its the
storyline and adventure that makes it exciting for them and keeps them
coming back time after time, something that the people who don't play can't
seem to understand (in general.)


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