The World of Warcraft Thread

[00111000]

So I broke down and started playing again. Rolled Alliance this and also playing on RP/PvE server this time. Such a change from playing 2 60's Horde on PvP...I still have those quirks of panning all over with the camera though...old habits die hard.

It's also good to see the game from Alliance side and do all the questlines. It's like a whole new game! Well...not really, but you know what I mean.

[00111000]

ooops...hamfisted the mouse button there..!

[Lasereth]

I'm 7/8 Wrath now since I got the BP of Wrath off of one of our last Nef kills. We killed The Prophet Skeram and got to Battleguard Sartura in AQ 40 the other night. WoW is waaay funner once you get into a good raiding guild, especially one that has an over-the-top sense of humor like mine.

[Xiomar]

Have ya all seen the flying mounts preview? It only shows the mounts for 2 of the Alliance races (Dwarf and Gnome), But its pretty cool. I would have liked to see some Horde ones as well. Anyone know if there is any information as to what they will be for the remainder of the races?

[Frosstbyte]

Unless I'm thinking of a different video, the flying mount in the preview is some rare, special mount. It's not the racial mounts. I don't know exactly what you have to do to get a nether drake, but I'd guess it resembles the wintersaber trainers grind. To the best of my knowledge, the racial mounts haven't been released yet.

On a side note, I finally, after millions of fruitless runs, got my DS shoulders last night. I still am on a 7 month streak of not seeing DS gloves, but I solved that problem by blowing a ton of points to get my tier 3 gloves, which are too hot for words. I also picked up the gun off Ouro the other week. My DPS has skyrocketed recently. Makes me a very happy hunter.

[Xiomar]

Well, now that I think about it... they never said it was the racial one. Dang. O well. It was on the WoW website, so I got exited.... haha

[-Ever-]

Originally Posted by seretogis

It looks like the vast majority of you guys are Alliance, but I just wanted to mention this in case some of you are Hordelings: I run a shared Horde site known as the "Horde Consortium" to try to assist servers' Horde and the faction as a whole in progressing in PvE raiding and eventually world-PvP. It's open to any Horde guild but would be most useful to a Nef-slaying guild. If you're interested you can drop me a PM here as I don't really want to spam my little speech here.

Went ahead and registered.

[Frosstbyte]

Thaddius down. Picked up my second piece of tier 3 off Gluth. Naxx is such an amazing instance. I'm having quite the good time running around this place.

For those of you guys clearing BWL and starting AQ40, depending on your schedule and available time, I migth recommend seeing if you can get anub and instructor razuvious down. They both have very respectable loot tables, including a great tanking ring (Instructor) and cloak (anub). They're no harder than sartura at the worst, so if you find yourself with extra time and energy, I think it'd be worth trying to fit them in.

[Scorps]

MC cleared....in 4 hours...man that was fun as hell, didn't get my mageblade or Arcanist belt

[-Ever-]

Grats on the T3 Frosstbyte! That's awesome you guys are so far along in Naxx. I'm hoping to get into there sooner than later.

On other news, here's my a link to my newly-created CTProfile of my alt-turned-main Circuit

[BuDDaH]

Do we have any RANK 13 players here? I am a little more than 50% into it but we have 3 honor farmers that been holding back 3 GM's already.

So I been trying to keep close to them and not let them get too far ahead. (one of them has been standing #1 7 weeks in a row.)

The Game Masters won't do anything about it. And he has admitted to sharing his account with 3 people and paid on ebay to have this character power leveled..
It sucks.

[BigGov]

Who loves guild drama?

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...l&T=216789&P=1

I left Souls of the Banished for Damnation, and I'm glad I did. Maryllaira's first post basically sums up the general childness my old guild has resorted to (the sad part, is that the childness is largely coming from the new officers in the guild).

Funny how one of the things that led to the separation was the insisting that SOB have a loot council. Within hours after Damnation was created the leadership of SOB suddenly decided that now would be a great time to try to shift to DKP. Douchebags. At least I got my character geared the fuck out before /gquit'ing.

[Halx]

Man, I hate this game. It dominates my time like nothing else.

I have 2 "mains" and my time commitment for both is getting pretty ridiculous.

My druid is in a BWL/AQ40 raiding guild and I was just made the druid class officer. My warrior is in an MC raiding co-op and I am now the warrior class leader. My entire week is just raid raid raid.

As far as gear goes, I have everything a druid could possibly want from MC, but I have a long ways to go before I am elligible for any good loot in BWL... especially because we don't get any druid drops at all.

My warrior is fun because I have enough gear to both be a main tank and come in #2 on damage meters (I love fury). However, I plan on pouncing on the Bonereaver's Edge or the Spinal Reaper as soon as one of them drops. I'm getting an itch to tear shit up in battlegrounds. Fury may be good for DPS, but MC fury itemization is a dead end. Since I don't see my warrior in BWL any time soon to gobble up the doom's edge, crul'shoruk (which everyone in my BWL guild wants anyways), chromatic boots, drake talon pauldrons or master dragonslayer's ring, I figure I'll just get a nice MC 2h and switch to arms.

[Frosstbyte]

You must be the only ones with a lack of SR in your BWL runs, Hal. I'd say a solid 50% of our guild's nexus crystals were once pieces of stormrage. Ah random loot, how exciting you are!

On the subject of good random loot streaks: 5 ashkandis in a row; in the last 5 c'thun kills we've seen three DEoIs and one death's sting.

I pretty sure none of that is supposed to happen.

[MahlerIsGod]

I have made the decision to return to WoW. Since I have left WoW I have moved cross country (from Virginia back to Utah) and I used to play on the Zul'jin server. That is an East Coast server and when I reinstalled the game tonight it re-assigned me to that server. My ping was 300. I would prefer to find a server closer to home if possible. Is there a way I can find a server closer to home? Thanks!

[Frosstbyte]

Well, for reasons that no one really knows, blizzard eliminated the old easy way to find a server closer to home. Back in the day (at some point earlier that I can't remember), the server list showed what timezone it is based in, so it was really really easy to figure out what servers were where. They've since stopped doing that.

Now your options are either just create random characters on random servers and type /time until you find one that matches your timezone or (probably more practically) find a website that lists all the servers and where they are located. I'm pretty sure they exist, but I don't have one handy.

[dabossy2k]

if you go to http://www.warcraftrealms.com/ you can find the us server stats on there it will tell you what timezone the server is in.

[Scorps]

mines western and im on east coast but the interface mod has a clock that I can change.

[Lokus]

Halx, you could try going 2h fury. I'm 2h fury right now with an OEB and it's pretty fun. Better PvE DPS than arms and you can still put out some impressive numbers in PvP although I still miss the MS debuff. Dual wield fury does more damage I believe but also requires better gear to support it like lots of +to hit which is hard to get pre-BWL.

[Lasereth]

JESUS CHRIST!!! Does anyone have a Battleguard Sartura strategy??? I've read a dozen and all of our officers have and we are just sucking it up. We're missing something major. The adds don't seem to be a big problem, but the tanks and hunters, etc. just can't keep Sartura out of everyone else's hair. Any tips?

PS: I got the Breastplate of Annihilation the other night and almost started to cry when I found out that my stats go down when I equip it by breaking the rank 8 set bonus. I need the Fankriss leggings (Scaled Sand Reaver Leggings) to make use of the BP of Annihilation now.

My guild also cleared BWL in 1 night for the first time this past week as well. About 3.5 hours, not too bad! We also have MC on speed runs now (like 2 hours). A week ago we also ran two ZGs at once which definitely started the funniest general chat I've seen in a while.

[Scorps]

Wow Lasereth, we can clear BWL in like 5 hours MC in around 3 hours if no one has to leave...ZG is no problem for us now that all are regular players have 3 epics + Should be doing Naxx by October. AQ20 is fun we are getting the hang of it now...but I havn't been on when the try AQ40

[ObieX]

For people who pvp a lot and hate waiting for queues there's a neat mod to help pass the time: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/a...ac-holdem.html

For those of you who are afraid to click links its in-game 9 player max (i think) texas holdem



good times

[Halx]

So, on my warrior, I've ditched fury and switched to arms. My brand new OEB is puttin' the hurt on everything! I've actually got higher DPS than I did as Fury. I do better in PvP as well. I'm absolutely loving it when I charge up to something, smack them, MS, and get a sword spec proc. I love it even more when all 3 hits are crits. Then theres sweeping strikes, cleave and whirlwind.. I make sure to make use of everything to pump out as much hurting as possible.

Of course my bravado gets me killed easily in PvE, but I'll take it. I'm addicted to big numbers.

Oh ya.. how big of a geek am I to have 2 characters in full tier 1?

[Frosstbyte]

You are a huge geek, Hal, but that's ok, because you're in very good company here.

As for Sartura, basically you want to pull one add left, one add right, and tank/kill one just inside the door. A warrior or two and a bunch of paladins should drag Sartura down to the middle of the room and keep her stunned with HoJ and/or taunted until all of the adds are dead, at which point you circle around her and basically have Shazzrah version 2.0. Having a hunter OT Sartura like hunters can OT the swarmguards won't work very well. She does way too much damage, so you need to rely on a taunt rotation when she's in whirlwind mode and good stuns from your paladins when she's not to keep her in check.

Sartura is an odd fight, since everything everyone has learned about aggro since day one gets thrown out the window. Focus fire adds down fast and pull her pretty far from the raid and you should be ok. The adds should be dead in under a minute and then you can go to town on her.

[boom29]

Reading the posts feels like I'm reading a different language. Poor me and my level 16.

[Scorps]

Originally Posted by boom29

Reading the posts feels like I'm reading a different language. Poor me and my level 16.

Thats like my GF when she hears me and my cusin talk about are lvl 60's and all the epic gear and stuff.

[samcol]

I played this game to about level 20 then quit for eq2 many months ago. I'm thinking about starting again on an EST realm and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for a good one to start on. My biggest fear is starting a character that I put a lot of time in then find it's a horrible community or there's no opportunity for new players to find a decent raiding guild. I really don't have any preference for PVP/PVE. Also, what classes tend to be the most needed at 60?

[Scorps]

Finally my Arcanist legs dropped in MC last night , just need alll\ the other pieces...lol

[Halx]

Originally Posted by samcol

I played this game to about level 20 then quit for eq2 many months ago. I'm thinking about starting again on an EST realm and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for a good one to start on. My biggest fear is starting a character that I put a lot of time in then find it's a horrible community or there's no opportunity for new players to find a decent raiding guild. I really don't have any preference for PVP/PVE. Also, what classes tend to be the most needed at 60?

I dont have any suggestion as far as realms go. I'm east coast, but I play on a west coast server. However druids, priests and warlocks are hard to find for guilds. Neither are very exciting classes to play in a raid environment, but you have a good chance of getting into a good guild if you make yourself available as one of those classes. All the other classes you usually have competition.

[BigGov]

Originally Posted by samcol

I played this game to about level 20 then quit for eq2 many months ago. I'm thinking about starting again on an EST realm and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for a good one to start on. My biggest fear is starting a character that I put a lot of time in then find it's a horrible community or there's no opportunity for new players to find a decent raiding guild. I really don't have any preference for PVP/PVE. Also, what classes tend to be the most needed at 60?

Classes that are almost always needed: DRUIDS and Warlocks. As for servers, I don't know. I would personally recommend starting up on a new server if you're starting by yourself. New servers have better technology, and starting a druid that you plan on spec'ing resto on a new server can basically get you into one of the top guilds on the server once get him to 60.

[Scorps]

Believe it or not Mages are hard to come by on are server. But PvP mages are easy to find, but Raid mages have to be frost and/or arcane spec not fire, I was given the 10g to respec for my guild...lol We got maybe 6 mages in are raid guild...of 200+ 60's. But the funny thing is you roll a new char and thats the only class you see is mages.

[Frosstbyte]

Yeah, as everyone said, druids and warlocks. Once you start playing one, you might also figure out why they're relatively rare. Druids are strange because leveling up you have to figure out how to be a mage and a priest and a warrior and a rogue all at the same time, but once you get to endgame your focus narrows to almost exclusively healing. Warlocks, on the other hand, are just kind of an odd class. They have some cool tricks and neat spells, but soul shards are an enormous pain in the ass to deal with and figuring out how and when to use all the pets and their respective abilities is a challenge, to say the least. They're also quite difficult to level effectively, at least until you get death coil.

Another consistently solid option is to roll a dwarf priest, since most raiding guilds are always looking for another fear ward. My friend leveled a shadow priest to 60 in less than 10 days /played.

[Zeraph]

Been awhile since I played but I thought warlocks weren't needed as much? Sure they're rare but I thought guilds only needed 1 or 2 (active locks) since you start to get a lot of overlap with utility. And I thought hunters and mages were better at ranged DPS.

But I havn't really ever been in a raiding guild so I'm just sayin what I've heard (read).

[Frosstbyte]

You'd be surpirsed the number of times you struggle to find the 2 (Curse of Elements and Curse of Weakness/Recklessness) warlocks that every raid really needs.

Patchwerk is the benchmark DPS boss right now and, for a variety of reasons, fury warrior, rogue and mage DPS fully buffed going all out for 5 minutes tend to hover at 600-ish. Hunter is just over 400. Warlock is just under 400. Obviously this depends on gear to some extent, but all the distributions seem to be in that range. In my opinion, what a warlock loses in damage he more than makes up for in summons, healthstones, soulstones and knowing when and what to curse.

Hunters' lacking DPS on patchwerk is largely a function of the fact that we lack many AP buffs that rogues can get. We're pretty much stuck with mongoose pots and blasted lands agi buff and consecrated sharpening stones if we're lucky enough to have one. Rogues can stack mongoose, giant growth, firewater, juju strength, blasted lands buff (if they wanted), battle shout and elemental sharpening stones. Our fully juiced AP isn't a massive increase. Their fully juiced AP goes WAY up. I'd be lying if I had any idea why hunters get the shaft in this department.

[Zeraph]

Fross, Have you ever had a shadow priest fully equiped and spec'd for dmg? I'm curious where they'd fit in (DPS wise).

As far as the hunter thing I heard that hunters are meant to be sustainable DPS but not at the top. So maybe that's why they can't get as many buffs. Short of that I'd say its just that Blizz doesnt' want to spend the time implementing something for ranged weapon dps since there's only one class that seriously uses it.

[Frosstbyte]

We had one who recently left the guild, unfortunately. Good priest but he never talked on vent and didn't coordinate with our other priests very well, which is bad if you're a class leader, incidentally.

Anyway, I've seen a fully geared shadow priest and fully geared balance druid go full DPS and they both have two big problems, at least in boss encounters. The first is aggro control, which they don't have much of. You can't really ask them to go all out because they're almost definitely going to pull aggro. The second problem is mana. They can both do very good high burst damage-comparable to mages and warlocks, but they run out of mana very quickly. Priests have good regen abilities on critter death and druids can innervate, but their spell selection sucks for mana efficiency.

Short answer: on shorter fights and trash they can put out pretty solid-not mage level, but solid-damage. On longer fights or aggro sensitive fights, it's a bit of a wild card.

Shadow is awesome for leveling, though. I leveled a mage at the same time my friend was doing his priest and he just blew through stuff because his downtime was so low. Even after I got good at AE grinding he leveled much faster than me. I don't know enough about druids to tell you how good feral/balance are for leveling.

[snowy]

Originally Posted by Zeraph

Been awhile since I played but I thought warlocks weren't needed as much? Sure they're rare but I thought guilds only needed 1 or 2 (active locks) since you start to get a lot of overlap with utility. And I thought hunters and mages were better at ranged DPS.

But I havn't really ever been in a raiding guild so I'm just sayin what I've heard (read).

I have a 58 lock and my friends' raiding guild is just waiting for me to get to 60 so I can join their raids--and they already have several warlocks. In a raid situation, being a warlock is probably the easiest class. You just throw up your soulstone and cast curse after curse. And being able to summon people is ALWAYS handy.

The biggest problem I have with my warlock is that she's, well, boring. I like my rogue much better--but she isn't as useful to other people as the warlock is.

[Zeraph]

Originally Posted by onesnowyowl

I have a 58 lock and my friends' raiding guild is just waiting for me to get to 60 so I can join their raids--and they already have several warlocks. In a raid situation, being a warlock is probably the easiest class. You just throw up your soulstone and cast curse after curse. And being able to summon people is ALWAYS handy.

The biggest problem I have with my warlock is that she's, well, boring. I like my rogue much better--but she isn't as useful to other people as the warlock is.

No kidding. Rogue was my main class, I'm thinking of trying out the changes when they go live but I almost don't see a point. The talent review, so far, hasn't addressed any of the major problems with rogues.

[Scorps]

Originally Posted by onesnowyowl

I have a 58 lock and my friends' raiding guild is just waiting for me to get to 60 so I can join their raids--and they already have several warlocks. In a raid situation, being a warlock is probably the easiest class. You just throw up your soulstone and cast curse after curse. And being able to summon people is ALWAYS handy.

The biggest problem I have with my warlock is that she's, well, boring. I like my rogue much better--but she isn't as useful to other people as the warlock is.

Easy class we do are raids with maybe 3 locks and they always die first....no idea why.

[Cynthetiq]

well over the weekend Skogafoss and I got a new gaming rig. With all the graphics turned down, I jumped from 8 FPS (during IF and SW crowds) 20 FPS (40 man raids) and 26 FPS (solo) to a whopping 60+ FPS with all the graphics dialed up.

It's like playing a whole new game!!!!

Doing AQ over the weekend Ony and MC last night totally rocked!!!