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Xiomar · 03-22-2006, 11:42 AM

Hilarious boss, eh? Ill have to find some shots or a vid

KWSN · 03-22-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pain Train

Wow looks like you had fun kicking the crap out of the Booty Bay and all the others...

you bet i did!

Scorps · 03-22-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSN

you bet i did!

I never did like Booty Bay maybe I should go smash the place to hell with my mage!

KWSN · 03-22-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pain Train

I never did like Booty Bay maybe I should go smash the place to hell with my mage!

It CAN be kind of annoying not to be able to use the gadgetzan FP to get to Silithus... but the hat was worth it if you ask me.

Scorps · 03-23-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSN

It CAN be kind of annoying not to be able to use the gadgetzan FP to get to Silithus... but the hat was worth it if you ask me.

You get a hat??

KWSN · 03-23-2006, 07:09 PM

Once you get friendly with the Bloodsail Buccaneers, you can talk to Fleet Master Firallon on one of their ships, who gives you a quest for this hat: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12185

The quest is pretty damn hard considering all the bruiser spawns that blizz have added, basically you need to fly in from Grom'gol and almost immediately kill one of the npc's, die, rez at the other NPC and kill it very very fast, then spirit rez (at least I had to).

The hat is pretty damn nifty though, and it impresses people when you have it :P Not a lot of Bloodsail Admirals running around usually. Also, the Bloodsail NPC yells your name in Stranglethorn Vale when you complete the quest, so it's fodder for your e-peen. Makes good screenshots too

Scorps · 03-24-2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSN

Once you get friendly with the Bloodsail Buccaneers, you can talk to Fleet Master Firallon on one of their ships, who gives you a quest for this hat: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12185

The quest is pretty damn hard considering all the bruiser spawns that blizz have added, basically you need to fly in from Grom'gol and almost immediately kill one of the npc's, die, rez at the other NPC and kill it very very fast, then spirit rez (at least I had to).

The hat is pretty damn nifty though, and it impresses people when you have it :P Not a lot of Bloodsail Admirals running around usually. Also, the Bloodsail NPC yells your name in Stranglethorn Vale when you complete the quest, so it's fodder for your e-peen. Makes good screenshots too

Oh thats cool I might just do that

to bad there is no intell!

CityOfAngels · 03-28-2006, 04:03 PM

All of the servers, including the WoW website, are down. Any news on what's up? I got the patch to install successfully.

godzilla23 · 03-28-2006, 04:15 PM

Finally got through to the forums. There was an update at 6:30EST on the tech support forums that they're having problems with bringing up the servers and there's no new ETA.

Looks like we're not playing tonight. Bah. I'm going to get a sandwich.

shadowalker · 03-28-2006, 04:31 PM

Just installed the game after getting off work today, and this is what i get. Guess i'll be going back to SWG.

Pragma · 03-28-2006, 04:53 PM

Got my leaf two days ago, black (and blue! lucky farming in WS) sinew yesterday.. and today the server's down.

Bastards, I want to get my Rhok'Delar.

Frosstbyte · 03-28-2006, 04:56 PM

How is blizzard still breaking their servers at this point in the game? It's been well over a year. How hard is it to patch? Glad I wasn't planning to raid tonight anyway.

Lasereth · 03-28-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowalker

Just installed the game after getting off work today, and this is what i get. Guess i'll be going back to SWG.

Let me know if you have any extra money if you're blowing it for absurd reasons like that. I need about $30,000.

We have Blackwing Lair tonight so it's totally fucking over our schedule.

They're updating the server hardware of ALL launch servers on top of the mentioned ones...so at least the instance lag should be gone.

Redjake · 03-29-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowalker

Just installed the game after getting off work today, and this is what i get. Guess i'll be going back to SWG.

tell me you aren't judging WoW for one moment of down time.........

it rarely happens, and usually only on a patch day. give me a break. sounds like you didn't want to give up SWG in the first place. go back to inferior trash, fine by us

You'll love WoW. No one is perfect, give it a chance. The servers are up today, try it out.

Xiomar · 03-29-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte

How is blizzard still breaking their servers at this point in the game? It's been well over a year. How hard is it to patch? Glad I wasn't planning to raid tonight anyway.

Have you seen what has been added?

As for people who wonder how these things can happen... would you rather a little extra downtime or a... well.. shitty, buggy game?

MrFlux · 03-29-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Redjake

tell me you aren't judging WoW for one moment of down time.........

it rarely happens, and usually only on a patch day. give me a break. sounds like you didn't want to give up SWG in the first place. go back to inferior trash, fine by us

You'll love WoW. No one is perfect, give it a chance. The servers are up today, try it out.

You're joking, right? The login servers are down like half the fucking time!

Trying to log on to kill Green Dragons now and can't get past Authenticating.

Redjake · 03-29-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlux

You're joking, right? The login servers are down like half the fucking time!

Trying to log on to kill Green Dragons now and can't get past Authenticating.

.....and it's right after a patch. Like I said.

I don't know what server you're on, but Bleeding Hollow is up a majority of the time. I think people remember the bad things (not being able to log in) and forget the good things (you can log in an overwhelming majority of the time perfectly)

The login servers aren't down "half the fucking time" on ANY server. Else there wouldn't be 6,000,000 customers.

YaWhateva · 03-29-2006, 05:14 PM

it just takes a few extra seconds to get past authenticating, it happened to me just now.

Lasereth · 03-29-2006, 05:22 PM

Yeah, this is the first time in about 4-5 months that the servers have been officially down for more than an hour or two past the schedule maintenance. Sometimes it takes a few seconds to get past authenticating, but that's certainly different than the actual servers being down. WoW has had great uptime for about 6 months now...yesterday's patch was the first hinderance in a looong time. It was annoying, but I'm not surprised with the magnitude of this patch (especially with it not being an official content patch).

Cynthetiq · 03-29-2006, 06:10 PM

damn.. it's taking a long while to authenticate.... skogafoss is already playing.. and I"m still waiting for the toon screen.

MrFlux · 03-29-2006, 06:41 PM

Its not so much the servers being down, it's more just problems with the game in general e.g. long login times, world servers crashing, action lag (where chat is fine but you can't do other shit)...

All happening today, and has been on and off for the last month or so on our server.

Good for you that your particular server isn't having problems, however the server I play on certainly is having MANY problems.

Xiomar · 03-29-2006, 07:45 PM

I play on 6 different servers and have never had any problems except once. and I have been playing from the start.

Scorps · 03-30-2006, 09:50 AM

Windrunner has had its problems but latly its been ok!

KWSN · 04-02-2006, 09:16 PM

Since I've been unguilded for a little while with no end to that in site on my main, me and a lot of other disgruntled 60's with pimp gear and BWL experience rerolled on one of the new servers so we can get back at the forefront of PvE, maybe be among the upper eschelon of this server. It's an interesting proposition, hopefully the whole guild sticks to it.

-Absurd, lvl 18 Tauren hunter, Executus

j0hnb · 04-04-2006, 06:19 AM

I swear this game owns my soul. I sold my soul to blizzard for $15 a month. As far as my character goes, I have a 60 mage on destromath. His name is: Frewdicket (random generated name) I'm one of the 2 Guild masters of one of the largest guilds on the server. Not sure exactly our real rank, but I know we are in the top 5. Anyways, no matter how much I try to quit thing thing I just keep finding myself back on.

dun_ask · 04-09-2006, 07:16 AM

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burni...all/wisps.html

Lmao.

Racial Traits:

* Detonate: Destroys the wisp, dispelling all magical buffs and draining 50 mana from each unit in an area around the wisp.
* Gatherer: Skill to herbalism, mining, and skinning increased by 10.
* Permanent Death
* Treeform: Turns the wisp into a tree for 30 seconds. During this time, spirit is increased by 300. However, the wisp's chance to dodge or parry axes is reduced by 50%.

PERMANENT DEATH.

Frosstbyte · 04-09-2006, 06:21 PM

Anyone ever left a guild from whom you've acquired a lot of experience and equipment but whose system just isn't working out for you anymore?

My guild has graudally done enough stupid crap that I'm tired of putting up with that I'm seeking alternatives. On the other hand, I have received 2xGS and 4xDS, epic rings, neck and cloak from the guild and being in the guild has taught me really all I know about endgame raiding. The guild just isn't going in a direction that I like and I don't have the confidence in the officers that I feel like I should have to be a good part of the team.

When I get another offer, I'm going to take it, but I wondered if any of you had any advice how I might say good bye to my old guild, thank them for all they've provided me and wish them luck without seeming like the guy who cashed out on epics and disappeared. If you've any thoughts, I'd apprecaite it.

Cynthetiq · 04-09-2006, 06:24 PM

we had a bunch of people leave our guild for various reasons (mostly because they were Taco and Tiras alts.)

Just leave the group without burning bridges... you never know when you'll encounter someone in play either as their main or as an alt.

Remember the toes you step on today may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow.

Lasereth · 04-10-2006, 08:14 AM

New pix of my new armor!

Frosstbyte · 04-11-2006, 03:29 AM

Come a long way from your SS's not so long ago, Las. I love looking through this thread from time to time to see how far we've all come. Pretty wild.

Despite my best efforts, I seem to have done a fine job of burning not one but two bridges in my latest guild shuffle. I had everything set up to avoid precisely this problem, but fate conspired to prevent my plan from happening.

(for those who care to hear the rant, read on, for those who don't, feel free to stop here, it's wordy, but I need to get it out, again, feel free to skip it if you aren't interested in my ranting)

I've been unsettled about my guild and its direction for a while, say a month and a half or so. There have been ongoing issues that have simmered but I looked past until other, more serious, issues collected them and pushed me over the edge. We've had a mess of trouble in AQ and with the world spawn green dragons, both in terms of execution and participation and it's created a very negative atmosphere that I wasn't very happy with. The two big things were a lack of raid invites recently (I hadn't seen a raid before the MC raid below for over two weeks) and our gross incompetence at killing ORBs.

So I did some looking. The first guild to kill Nefarian worldwide (Drama) put up an advertisement that it was recruting hunters. Naturally, I sent over my application. After about two weeks, they'd accepted a few hunters, so I figured the spot was full and I should just move on. A bunch of my friends from my previous guild are in another guild on the server called The Hammer Clan (THC), which isn't far behind Drama progression-wise (Drama can get C'Thun to phase II, THC is about to kill the twin emps). I talk to the guildmaster of THC and has says both that they have quite a few hunters and that a few people from my guild (Servants of Justice/SoJ) have app'd or joined THC recently and he doesn't want to make it seem like THC is headhunting SoJ members, but that he'd take a look at my application. So I send one in on Friday.

Yesterday, I have no offers, I have two applications out and haven't heard a word back about either one, so I'm thinking things didn't work out and I'll just roll with it. We clear MC and cloak of shrouded mists drops. Now, I've wanted that fucker since I first saw it on Rag's loot table months ago and, due to our open bidding auction system had been denied it a number of times. Another hunter bid me WAY up on it, as he did on the DS legs when those dropped a month and change ago. Just to give you some perspective, a full BWL clear is worth 50 AP. An AQ clear (Skeram-fankriss) is worth 60. I below 800 AP on my DS legs and 630 AP on this cloak, which are WAY more than either one has ever gone for, simply because they're both items I really wanted. I figure I'm not going anywhere because nothing has come of my applications, and I go all in and win the cloak (22 agi, 12 stam, 6 fr, 6 nr, fyi). I'm stoked, because, as I've said, I've wanted this cloak for a year.

Which brings us to today. I'm sitting around Azshara getting water and killing random stuff and I ask the GM of THC what the status of my application is. He's like, "Oh, I told our recruiting officer to move it to the prospects section. I'll do that now." That was all I got. That's, apparently, how he chooses to welcome people to the guild. There was no, "Congratulations, we've decided to accept you" or "here's what we expect of you now that you're a recruit" just what I type, almost verbatim. Whatever, it was an offer to be in a guild that's making good progress and in which I have a lot of good friends.

So I make my good bye post for SoJ, post it and gquit, which was rough. I got about 2 million tells about it and, honestly, it wasn't a happy thing to do. There are some really great people in the guild and I'm not looking to screw them over or piss them off, it just wasn't the right place for me anymore.

In the midst of the "OMFGUGQUIT" tells, the GM of Drama sends me a tell. "Hey, we had a really active hunter quit this morning, so we have a spot available if you want it."

Insert shocked silence here. It's a rare day when you get an offer to join a guild. It's a rarer day when you quit a guild. And it's a very rare day when you get an offer from two guilds less than 15 minutes apart split up by an emotional gquit, and one of those guilds is a guild with some good friends in it and the other guild has the distinction of having been the first guild worldwide to clear BWL. I really didn't know what to do with myself.

So I told the GM of Drama, "Hey, I'm a litle mixed up right now. I could use some time to think about my decision, is that ok?" To which he responded, "Sure, I want you to make an informed choice. Take all the time you need, we have a spot waiting for you if you want it." Cool, some breathing room.

Then I send a tell to one of my good friends in THC teling him about Drama's offer. First he says, "Apparently you were supposed to be approved as a THC recruit a few days ago, I dont' know what happened." He then tells his GM about it, and the GM of THC sends me a tell saying, "So I heard Drama gave you an offer. Our recruitment period is 10-14 days, so if you're interested, you should take their offer." I told him the same thing I told the GM of Drama, "I'm a little overwhelmed right now, I'd like 24 hours to think over it." And his response was, "I don't have time for this...if you have any shred of desire to join Drama, join them, but I won't wait for you to decide."

I don't like being told what to do, so that made my decision rather easy. A GM who understands that 24 hours to make a decision that will effect how hundreds of subsequent hours of play time will be spent speaks a great deal to how he runs his guild in a way that takes into account the needs of its members, in contract to a GM who doesn't seem to care about that. And with that, I joined Drama.

I had a lot of angry former guild mates who think I loot-whored and cashed out my DKP knowing that I was leaving, which I really didn't, and if I did cash out, I certainly paid a serious premium on an item. It usually goes for 250-400 AP. Nowhere in our item-record has it broke the 500 AP mark before last night. So if I had ended up staying (which I thought I'd be doing at the time), I would've been deep in the hole. I feel kind of shitty about having taken a nice item and then left, but it was a very high priority item that I've let others have for cheap in the past because they'd been in the guild longer and, honestly, is the only item I've been going to MC for for the last month.

My friends in THC are all a little pissed at me because they put their necks on the line to get me an invite and then the way things worked out I got accepted and then rescinded my application, which might hurt their standing in their guild. Also, I don't get to be in a guild with them, which pretty much sucks, since I like them all a lot. And I've been told in no uncertain terms that if Drama doesn't work out, I'm not welcome to apply to THC again ever. I don't blame them and it's a natural consequence, but it's an unpleasant consequence.

It just sucks that I'd actively avoided trying to have exactly this happen and then it happened anyway. I put out the app with Drama and Drama alone, waited a healthy amount of time, received no response and safely assumed I'd been tacitly rejected. So I apply to the next guild on my list that isn't actively recruiting but that I might get into because I have friends there. Although they decided to approve me almost immediately, they didn't tell me about it. Through some administrative snafu I didn't hear about my acceptance until I asked them about it some four days later, during which I'd gone to MC and gone all in on a cloak. And THEN Drama invites me.

If either guild had gotten back to me reasonably quickly, this whole thing would've been avoided. I would've either joined Drama or known they hadn't accepted me and then could've app'd THC without having another app "pending" in the meantime. If THC had told me I'd been recruited when they decided I was recruited, I would've gquit SoJ on Saturday and never been on the MC run in the first place. And then for them to both tell me within fifteen minutes of one another? Honestly, what the fuck kind of crazy shit is that?

I really wish the GM of THC had given me some time, because, honestly, I think I would've ended up going there, but at the moment I wasn't ready to have to make the call, and his fairly insensitive response, especially compared to the GM of Drama's very accomodating response, did not bode well for starting off on the right foot with the guild. I'm very glad to be out of my old guild, though I'm sorry I've left looking like a loot whore out to screw them. I'm glad to be in one of the best guilds in the game right now, though I'm disappointed that I have to make new friends, since I don't know anyone in Drama very well. I'm disappointed that I didn't get to join my other friends and that their GM thinks less of me for the decision I felt forced into making.

Just based on tonight, I really like Drama's attitude and players. They act more like a group of friends who play together and less like a job, which is what SoJ always felt like. I think I made the right choice, but the circumstances all make it feel like the wrong choice in the short term.

As one of my RL friends who plays on a different server pointed out, "Dude, it's a game. Join the best guild you can and come drink with me if you need a friend. If they're giving you shit about it, fuck them." I think he's on to something...

If you read this far, feel free to comment or whatever. Thanks for hearing me through.

Xiomar · 04-11-2006, 08:15 AM

Not gonna quote, but heres my 2 cents... You made the right choice. Thats all there is to it. People would have been upset no matter how you left. They WILL get over it. A few wont, but they would have been pissed no matter what. THEY need to respect your feelings and desicions... and also try and figure out the problem that brought you to that point.

As for the other guild leader responding the way he did... how could he NOT have time? He had time to sit on his ass and not push the invite through for a few days? Whats this say for his execution on pretty crusial matters. He seemed kinda pissed. But he can only be pissed at himself for not having better execution on matters at hand.

Drama was the way to go. THEIR GL's response seemed more than resonable... it was very understanding.

Heres my point... through the whole ordeal... who seemed to care about what you did the most (in a positive way)? The guild of strangers. I think it will all be okay for you. Dont worry.

And... it IS a game. You pay your money and deserve to have fun too. When it feels like a job, ya gotta change something!

dun_ask · 04-11-2006, 08:26 AM

I read your post Frosst and I also think you made the right choice. Your RL friend is right, it's a game, join the best guild and have some fun. I know in WoW reputation means a lot, but I'm sure that eventually everyone will get over it. I actually quit a guild that all my RL friends were in to join a PvP guild instead of a PvE. They were all quite upset, but hey, I see them almost every day IRL so what's the big deal? We all share our stories when we get together and all is well.

Carno · 04-11-2006, 12:21 PM

Man, this internet clan shit is crazy.

Who would've thought?

Halx · 04-15-2006, 12:03 PM

Oh my god. You cant escape drama. I can't either.

Lasereth · 04-22-2006, 05:43 PM

Our guild is trekking back into BWL after having quite a few of the leaders leave recently. It's about fucking time!!

KWSN · 04-23-2006, 03:47 PM

guild drama blows, i agree. i've all but quit my warlock thanks to guild drama not allowing me to get into a new guild after i quit my old one. if i feel like it i'll eventually type up what happened there, basically though, it sucks. plain and simple.

Seer666 · 04-24-2006, 01:03 AM

AH, the joys of guild drama. That is why I've not really hit the much end game running. I can't stand that shit. It's a game. I play it have fun. I hate guilds that try and make it a fucking chore to play. Me and my budies at work got so sick of th shit we started out own guild. "Porkchops of Doom". You can tell how serious we are just by the name. We got a few people to join. Well, needed some sigs to start it. Not everybody was on. Was asked about our rules, and realised we pretty much have one. Don't be a dick. Probably won't get very big or do much end game raiding, but most of us are into pvp anyway. Thing to remeber is, it's just a damn game. Some peopel just get way to into it. Speaking of which, it's time to go lvl and melt some faces.

ObieX · 04-24-2006, 03:57 PM

Yea this is why i like my guild. A few people i was guilded with in Everqust that came to WoW stuck together and we have a guild of like 10 people. No drama, no problems.

on a side note, i got my little gnome mage to Marshal

Ustwo · 04-24-2006, 05:27 PM

If WoW wasn't designed for massive end game raids only, guild drama would be a lot less since a small group of friends and like minded people could still progress well.

Instead you need to sell your soul and join 'uber' guilds if you want to get beyond blue gear.

snowy · 04-26-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

If WoW wasn't designed for massive end game raids only, guild drama would be a lot less since a small group of friends and like minded people could still progress well.

Instead you need to sell your soul and join 'uber' guilds if you want to get beyond blue gear.

I dunno...I'm a member of a small guild of friends-only, and our 60s haven't had any problems getting invites to end-game raids.

03-23-2006, 07:09 PM	#1526 (permalink)
KWSN green	Once you get friendly with the Bloodsail Buccaneers, you can talk to Fleet Master Firallon on one of their ships, who gives you a quest for this hat: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12185 The quest is pretty damn hard considering all the bruiser spawns that blizz have added, basically you need to fly in from Grom'gol and almost immediately kill one of the npc's, die, rez at the other NPC and kill it very very fast, then spirit rez (at least I had to). The hat is pretty damn nifty though, and it impresses people when you have it :P Not a lot of Bloodsail Admirals running around usually. Also, the Bloodsail NPC yells your name in Stranglethorn Vale when you complete the quest, so it's fodder for your e-peen. Makes good screenshots too __________________ Your arms are broken!

03-28-2006, 04:31 PM	#1530 (permalink)
shadowalker Psycho Location: Firefox yourself and change the world!	Just installed the game after getting off work today, and this is what i get. Guess i'll be going back to SWG. __________________ I'll make ya famous!

03-28-2006, 04:53 PM	#1531 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Got my leaf two days ago, black (and blue! lucky farming in WS) sinew yesterday.. and today the server's down. Bastards, I want to get my Rhok'Delar. __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

03-29-2006, 05:14 PM	#1538 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	it just takes a few extra seconds to get past authenticating, it happened to me just now. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

03-29-2006, 05:22 PM	#1539 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Yeah, this is the first time in about 4-5 months that the servers have been officially down for more than an hour or two past the schedule maintenance. Sometimes it takes a few seconds to get past authenticating, but that's certainly different than the actual servers being down. WoW has had great uptime for about 6 months now...yesterday's patch was the first hinderance in a looong time. It was annoying, but I'm not surprised with the magnitude of this patch (especially with it not being an official content patch). __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

03-22-2006, 11:42 AM	#1521 (permalink)
Xiomar Psycho Location: Bay Area, California	Hilarious boss, eh? Ill have to find some shots or a vid

03-28-2006, 04:15 PM	#1529 (permalink)
godzilla23 Tilted Location: Ontario, Canada	Finally got through to the forums. There was an update at 6:30EST on the tech support forums that they're having problems with bringing up the servers and there's no new ETA. Looks like we're not playing tonight. Bah. I'm going to get a sandwich.

03-28-2006, 04:56 PM	#1532 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	How is blizzard still breaking their servers at this point in the game? It's been well over a year. How hard is it to patch? Glad I wasn't planning to raid tonight anyway.

03-29-2006, 06:10 PM	#1540 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	damn.. it's taking a long while to authenticate.... skogafoss is already playing.. and I"m still waiting for the toon screen. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

03-29-2006, 06:41 PM	#1541 (permalink)
MrFlux Fluxing wildly... Location: Auckland, New Zealand	Its not so much the servers being down, it's more just problems with the game in general e.g. long login times, world servers crashing, action lag (where chat is fine but you can't do other shit)... All happening today, and has been on and off for the last month or so on our server. Good for you that your particular server isn't having problems, however the server I play on certainly is having MANY problems. __________________ flux (n.) Medicine. The discharge of large quantities of fluid material from the body, especially the discharge of watery feces from the intestines.

03-29-2006, 07:45 PM	#1542 (permalink)
Xiomar Psycho Location: Bay Area, California	I play on 6 different servers and have never had any problems except once. and I have been playing from the start.

03-30-2006, 09:50 AM	#1543 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	Windrunner has had its problems but latly its been ok!

04-02-2006, 09:16 PM	#1544 (permalink)
KWSN green	Since I've been unguilded for a little while with no end to that in site on my main, me and a lot of other disgruntled 60's with pimp gear and BWL experience rerolled on one of the new servers so we can get back at the forefront of PvE, maybe be among the upper eschelon of this server. It's an interesting proposition, hopefully the whole guild sticks to it. -Absurd, lvl 18 Tauren hunter, Executus __________________ Your arms are broken!

04-04-2006, 06:19 AM	#1545 (permalink)
j0hnb Crazy Location: Arnold, MD	I swear this game owns my soul. I sold my soul to blizzard for $15 a month. As far as my character goes, I have a 60 mage on destromath. His name is: Frewdicket (random generated name) I'm one of the 2 Guild masters of one of the largest guilds on the server. Not sure exactly our real rank, but I know we are in the top 5. Anyways, no matter how much I try to quit thing thing I just keep finding myself back on.

04-09-2006, 07:16 AM	#1546 (permalink)
dun_ask Psycho	http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burni...all/wisps.html Lmao. Racial Traits: * Detonate: Destroys the wisp, dispelling all magical buffs and draining 50 mana from each unit in an area around the wisp. * Gatherer: Skill to herbalism, mining, and skinning increased by 10. * Permanent Death * Treeform: Turns the wisp into a tree for 30 seconds. During this time, spirit is increased by 300. However, the wisp's chance to dodge or parry axes is reduced by 50%. PERMANENT DEATH.

04-09-2006, 06:21 PM	#1547 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	Anyone ever left a guild from whom you've acquired a lot of experience and equipment but whose system just isn't working out for you anymore? My guild has graudally done enough stupid crap that I'm tired of putting up with that I'm seeking alternatives. On the other hand, I have received 2xGS and 4xDS, epic rings, neck and cloak from the guild and being in the guild has taught me really all I know about endgame raiding. The guild just isn't going in a direction that I like and I don't have the confidence in the officers that I feel like I should have to be a good part of the team. When I get another offer, I'm going to take it, but I wondered if any of you had any advice how I might say good bye to my old guild, thank them for all they've provided me and wish them luck without seeming like the guy who cashed out on epics and disappeared. If you've any thoughts, I'd apprecaite it. Last edited by Frosstbyte; 04-10-2006 at 01:05 AM..

04-09-2006, 06:24 PM	#1548 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	we had a bunch of people leave our guild for various reasons (mostly because they were Taco and Tiras alts.) Just leave the group without burning bridges... you never know when you'll encounter someone in play either as their main or as an alt. Remember the toes you step on today may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

04-10-2006, 08:14 AM	#1549 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	New pix of my new armor! __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert Last edited by Lasereth; 12-11-2008 at 01:35 PM..

04-11-2006, 03:29 AM	#1550 (permalink)
Frosstbyte Winter is Coming Location: The North	Come a long way from your SS's not so long ago, Las. I love looking through this thread from time to time to see how far we've all come. Pretty wild. Despite my best efforts, I seem to have done a fine job of burning not one but two bridges in my latest guild shuffle. I had everything set up to avoid precisely this problem, but fate conspired to prevent my plan from happening. (for those who care to hear the rant, read on, for those who don't, feel free to stop here, it's wordy, but I need to get it out, again, feel free to skip it if you aren't interested in my ranting) I've been unsettled about my guild and its direction for a while, say a month and a half or so. There have been ongoing issues that have simmered but I looked past until other, more serious, issues collected them and pushed me over the edge. We've had a mess of trouble in AQ and with the world spawn green dragons, both in terms of execution and participation and it's created a very negative atmosphere that I wasn't very happy with. The two big things were a lack of raid invites recently (I hadn't seen a raid before the MC raid below for over two weeks) and our gross incompetence at killing ORBs. So I did some looking. The first guild to kill Nefarian worldwide (Drama) put up an advertisement that it was recruting hunters. Naturally, I sent over my application. After about two weeks, they'd accepted a few hunters, so I figured the spot was full and I should just move on. A bunch of my friends from my previous guild are in another guild on the server called The Hammer Clan (THC), which isn't far behind Drama progression-wise (Drama can get C'Thun to phase II, THC is about to kill the twin emps). I talk to the guildmaster of THC and has says both that they have quite a few hunters and that a few people from my guild (Servants of Justice/SoJ) have app'd or joined THC recently and he doesn't want to make it seem like THC is headhunting SoJ members, but that he'd take a look at my application. So I send one in on Friday. Yesterday, I have no offers, I have two applications out and haven't heard a word back about either one, so I'm thinking things didn't work out and I'll just roll with it. We clear MC and cloak of shrouded mists drops. Now, I've wanted that fucker since I first saw it on Rag's loot table months ago and, due to our open bidding auction system had been denied it a number of times. Another hunter bid me WAY up on it, as he did on the DS legs when those dropped a month and change ago. Just to give you some perspective, a full BWL clear is worth 50 AP. An AQ clear (Skeram-fankriss) is worth 60. I below 800 AP on my DS legs and 630 AP on this cloak, which are WAY more than either one has ever gone for, simply because they're both items I really wanted. I figure I'm not going anywhere because nothing has come of my applications, and I go all in and win the cloak (22 agi, 12 stam, 6 fr, 6 nr, fyi). I'm stoked, because, as I've said, I've wanted this cloak for a year. Which brings us to today. I'm sitting around Azshara getting water and killing random stuff and I ask the GM of THC what the status of my application is. He's like, "Oh, I told our recruiting officer to move it to the prospects section. I'll do that now." That was all I got. That's, apparently, how he chooses to welcome people to the guild. There was no, "Congratulations, we've decided to accept you" or "here's what we expect of you now that you're a recruit" just what I type, almost verbatim. Whatever, it was an offer to be in a guild that's making good progress and in which I have a lot of good friends. So I make my good bye post for SoJ, post it and gquit, which was rough. I got about 2 million tells about it and, honestly, it wasn't a happy thing to do. There are some really great people in the guild and I'm not looking to screw them over or piss them off, it just wasn't the right place for me anymore. In the midst of the "OMFGUGQUIT" tells, the GM of Drama sends me a tell. "Hey, we had a really active hunter quit this morning, so we have a spot available if you want it." Insert shocked silence here. It's a rare day when you get an offer to join a guild. It's a rarer day when you quit a guild. And it's a very rare day when you get an offer from two guilds less than 15 minutes apart split up by an emotional gquit, and one of those guilds is a guild with some good friends in it and the other guild has the distinction of having been the first guild worldwide to clear BWL. I really didn't know what to do with myself. So I told the GM of Drama, "Hey, I'm a litle mixed up right now. I could use some time to think about my decision, is that ok?" To which he responded, "Sure, I want you to make an informed choice. Take all the time you need, we have a spot waiting for you if you want it." Cool, some breathing room. Then I send a tell to one of my good friends in THC teling him about Drama's offer. First he says, "Apparently you were supposed to be approved as a THC recruit a few days ago, I dont' know what happened." He then tells his GM about it, and the GM of THC sends me a tell saying, "So I heard Drama gave you an offer. Our recruitment period is 10-14 days, so if you're interested, you should take their offer." I told him the same thing I told the GM of Drama, "I'm a little overwhelmed right now, I'd like 24 hours to think over it." And his response was, "I don't have time for this...if you have any shred of desire to join Drama, join them, but I won't wait for you to decide." I don't like being told what to do, so that made my decision rather easy. A GM who understands that 24 hours to make a decision that will effect how hundreds of subsequent hours of play time will be spent speaks a great deal to how he runs his guild in a way that takes into account the needs of its members, in contract to a GM who doesn't seem to care about that. And with that, I joined Drama. I had a lot of angry former guild mates who think I loot-whored and cashed out my DKP knowing that I was leaving, which I really didn't, and if I did cash out, I certainly paid a serious premium on an item. It usually goes for 250-400 AP. Nowhere in our item-record has it broke the 500 AP mark before last night. So if I had ended up staying (which I thought I'd be doing at the time), I would've been deep in the hole. I feel kind of shitty about having taken a nice item and then left, but it was a very high priority item that I've let others have for cheap in the past because they'd been in the guild longer and, honestly, is the only item I've been going to MC for for the last month. My friends in THC are all a little pissed at me because they put their necks on the line to get me an invite and then the way things worked out I got accepted and then rescinded my application, which might hurt their standing in their guild. Also, I don't get to be in a guild with them, which pretty much sucks, since I like them all a lot. And I've been told in no uncertain terms that if Drama doesn't work out, I'm not welcome to apply to THC again ever. I don't blame them and it's a natural consequence, but it's an unpleasant consequence. It just sucks that I'd actively avoided trying to have exactly this happen and then it happened anyway. I put out the app with Drama and Drama alone, waited a healthy amount of time, received no response and safely assumed I'd been tacitly rejected. So I apply to the next guild on my list that isn't actively recruiting but that I might get into because I have friends there. Although they decided to approve me almost immediately, they didn't tell me about it. Through some administrative snafu I didn't hear about my acceptance until I asked them about it some four days later, during which I'd gone to MC and gone all in on a cloak. And THEN Drama invites me. If either guild had gotten back to me reasonably quickly, this whole thing would've been avoided. I would've either joined Drama or known they hadn't accepted me and then could've app'd THC without having another app "pending" in the meantime. If THC had told me I'd been recruited when they decided I was recruited, I would've gquit SoJ on Saturday and never been on the MC run in the first place. And then for them to both tell me within fifteen minutes of one another? Honestly, what the fuck kind of crazy shit is that? I really wish the GM of THC had given me some time, because, honestly, I think I would've ended up going there, but at the moment I wasn't ready to have to make the call, and his fairly insensitive response, especially compared to the GM of Drama's very accomodating response, did not bode well for starting off on the right foot with the guild. I'm very glad to be out of my old guild, though I'm sorry I've left looking like a loot whore out to screw them. I'm glad to be in one of the best guilds in the game right now, though I'm disappointed that I have to make new friends, since I don't know anyone in Drama very well. I'm disappointed that I didn't get to join my other friends and that their GM thinks less of me for the decision I felt forced into making. Just based on tonight, I really like Drama's attitude and players. They act more like a group of friends who play together and less like a job, which is what SoJ always felt like. I think I made the right choice, but the circumstances all make it feel like the wrong choice in the short term. As one of my RL friends who plays on a different server pointed out, "Dude, it's a game. Join the best guild you can and come drink with me if you need a friend. If they're giving you shit about it, fuck them." I think he's on to something... If you read this far, feel free to comment or whatever. Thanks for hearing me through.

04-11-2006, 08:15 AM	#1551 (permalink)
Xiomar Psycho Location: Bay Area, California	Not gonna quote, but heres my 2 cents... You made the right choice. Thats all there is to it. People would have been upset no matter how you left. They WILL get over it. A few wont, but they would have been pissed no matter what. THEY need to respect your feelings and desicions... and also try and figure out the problem that brought you to that point. As for the other guild leader responding the way he did... how could he NOT have time? He had time to sit on his ass and not push the invite through for a few days? Whats this say for his execution on pretty crusial matters. He seemed kinda pissed. But he can only be pissed at himself for not having better execution on matters at hand. Drama was the way to go. THEIR GL's response seemed more than resonable... it was very understanding. Heres my point... through the whole ordeal... who seemed to care about what you did the most (in a positive way)? The guild of strangers. I think it will all be okay for you. Dont worry. And... it IS a game. You pay your money and deserve to have fun too. When it feels like a job, ya gotta change something!

04-11-2006, 08:26 AM	#1552 (permalink)
dun_ask Psycho	I read your post Frosst and I also think you made the right choice. Your RL friend is right, it's a game, join the best guild and have some fun. I know in WoW reputation means a lot, but I'm sure that eventually everyone will get over it. I actually quit a guild that all my RL friends were in to join a PvP guild instead of a PvE. They were all quite upset, but hey, I see them almost every day IRL so what's the big deal? We all share our stories when we get together and all is well.

04-11-2006, 12:21 PM	#1553 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Man, this internet clan shit is crazy. Who would've thought? __________________ http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

04-15-2006, 12:03 PM	#1554 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Oh my god. You cant escape drama. I can't either. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

04-22-2006, 05:43 PM	#1555 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Our guild is trekking back into BWL after having quite a few of the leaders leave recently. It's about fucking time!! __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

04-23-2006, 03:47 PM	#1556 (permalink)
KWSN green	guild drama blows, i agree. i've all but quit my warlock thanks to guild drama not allowing me to get into a new guild after i quit my old one. if i feel like it i'll eventually type up what happened there, basically though, it sucks. plain and simple. __________________ Your arms are broken!

04-24-2006, 01:03 AM	#1557 (permalink)
Seer666 Oh dear God he breeded Location: Arizona	AH, the joys of guild drama. That is why I've not really hit the much end game running. I can't stand that shit. It's a game. I play it have fun. I hate guilds that try and make it a fucking chore to play. Me and my budies at work got so sick of th shit we started out own guild. "Porkchops of Doom". You can tell how serious we are just by the name. We got a few people to join. Well, needed some sigs to start it. Not everybody was on. Was asked about our rules, and realised we pretty much have one. Don't be a dick. Probably won't get very big or do much end game raiding, but most of us are into pvp anyway. Thing to remeber is, it's just a damn game. Some peopel just get way to into it. Speaking of which, it's time to go lvl and melt some faces. __________________ Bad spellers of the world untie!!! I am the one you warned me of I seem to have misplaced the bullet with your name on it, but I have a whole box addressed to occupant.

04-24-2006, 03:57 PM	#1558 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	Yea this is why i like my guild. A few people i was guilded with in Everqust that came to WoW stuck together and we have a guild of like 10 people. No drama, no problems. on a side note, i got my little gnome mage to Marshal __________________ We Must Dissent.

04-24-2006, 05:27 PM	#1559 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	If WoW wasn't designed for massive end game raids only, guild drama would be a lot less since a small group of friends and like minded people could still progress well. Instead you need to sell your soul and join 'uber' guilds if you want to get beyond blue gear. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.