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Big Brother is Listening
Just heard from my buddy (who confirmed this through management at Xbox) that the FBI is entering into negotiations to "Monitor" Xbox Live Chat Feature.
My buddy works front office (if you have read some of my other posts you know where) and isn't into the inner working for Live. However, both of us agreed that it would be impossible for Xbox (and the Feds) to record conversations, they would actually have to hear them live. Supposidly they already to this in Evercrack, Sims Online, and various other online games. Supposidly there have actually been arrests in Sims of child pornographers and other criminal aspects. I personally have nothing to hide, but the thought of big brother listening in to my buddies and I in a full on Frag Fest is less than ideal. How do you guys feel about this? ![]()
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I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning!
Location: K-Town, TN
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Considering I don't have X-Box Live, I think that's pretty shitty from a personal standpoint. I have nothing to hide, either, but I have never ever ever enjoyed being evesdropped on. Granted, it's for a good reason ("there have actually been arrests in Sims of child pornographers and other criminal aspects"), but I still don't like it because I am no suspect by any means.
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Location: Cumming, GA
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H12.. I agree from the personal standpoint. If the Feds want to hear about how drunk I got the night before, or what sexual positions my wife and I tried more power too them. However, I think that the whole personal freedom aspect is being TRAMPLED on by the current administration.
I mean, if you have a chat room consisting of Apu1211, Sanjiit2121, Mohammed12, and RamabusII then jump on in and listen.
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I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning!
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Huggles, sir?
Location: Seattle
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Location: NC
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I can see that there would be some federal concerns. The next gen of XBoxLive will have video chat at supposedly good res. It may just replace a phone in some cases.
These are technological growing pains. XLive is not a required service, and if the people rebel, we've got an eighty billion dollar M$ legal fund. I doubt M$ would stand for any infringement that would affect their product.
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Location: Cumming, GA
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Actually MS is in talks with the Fed right now (source of my info). However, my assumption is that this will be taken care of in one of two fashions:
a) The Fed applies for and receives a "wiretap" warrant due to suspicions of one person or persons. b) The Fed hires people to play online games and listen into the banter. I personally don't have a problem with #1 as it is targeted to specific individuals. I have mixed feelings with regards to #2, only because I want to know where to send my application! ![]() Quote:
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Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!!
Location: IN, USA
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no its not cool... think about this.
Think of a good teamplay FPS... first there is general strategy. Say you're speaking about Desert Combat and you're playing as the Iraqies speaking down about the americans and how you're going to take them out............ easily misconstrued as you DID badmouth the american forces.. although any gamer could explain how you ment it. Also... FPS...hrmm.. how about, "I'm going to kill you." I hear that a lot.. but monitored by the FBI and all these so called death threats? Things will really fly through the fan if that goes down.
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Location: Black Mesa
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Regardless of the legality of this sort of eavesdropping... it's really really stupid and waste of resources.
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Instead we can just sit back and let them take a little more each time. Eventually we'll be rounded up for badmouthing the govt. |
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Location: WEEhawken, New Joisey
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I think this is bullshiat.
The FBI can listen to me all day long, but without a wiretap warrant with my name on it, they can't do crap. Besides, they don't have the manpower to do much of anything these days, can you imagine what it would take to monitor this? Bah.
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Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!!
Location: IN, USA
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either way.. if it does... I'll never own an X-box and never look back.
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Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!!
Location: IN, USA
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hrmm... good point Jam... doing such a thing with Xbox could infringe on international security. FBI could get in shitloads of trouble as gamers are worldwide, not just the US.
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C'mon, just blow it.
Location: Perth, Australia
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I am glad I only have a GameCube =D
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Location: K-Town, TN
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Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!!
Location: IN, USA
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yeah I have no Sony either.. heh. If they start tapping, I quit using the system... At the very least I'd quit using any games that are to be used online.
Go GameCube!!
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They can spy on me, so long as it can't be used against me unless Im commiting a truly horrid crime. For example if I started talking about how much someone should assassinate Bush, that shouldnt be recorded. But if i start talking in muslim about the bomb on flight 428 b leaving los angeles tomorrow, well thats legit. I think it is okay for them to spy on me as long as most of the evidence is inadmissable for warrant and court and only used to give them a direction for investigation.
I mean if they set down a certain list of taboos like terrorism and child porn, then spy away. If they put me in jail because my kid brother managed to get porn on my comp and he talks about it on Xbox live and I get arrested... Fuck you? Even then, I dont think searching up how to build a bomb should be illegal, mainly just give them a direction of investigation. |
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Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!!
Location: IN, USA
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so.... you say its ok for them to do it if you speak in muslim but not english? Sorry, but I really did not need to read that. I know what you said.. but how would they determine what to listen to then? The attack on the president or the plane-jack? Well by your method it would be the language used. Personally I say, no, No, NO! As gamers we talk smack, and say weird shit. A lot of it means nothing, we merely got frustrated and I don't think we should be kept under the watchful eye because someone scored a cheap spawn kill on me and I replied with, "I'm now going to hunt you down and kill you."
BTW, when you say "Its ok, unless...." then there is NO unless. YOU just allowed them to listen to you. They won't go, "Oh he's badmouthing the president lets put him on mute." This question is a Yes or No, there is no inbetween as there is no way to void it if someone says something... as its hard to be warned of such a thing, let alone mute it. So all you people saying "Yes, just not this:..." You said Yes, spy on me all the time...
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