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Nancy · 02-12-2004, 07:18 AM

Anyone tried it yet? I didn't even know that it had been released but I'm going to buy it as soon as possible since I LOVED all the previous Residen Evil games...

I saw a trailer for RE:Zero a few months back and it featured Leon from RE2. But the reviews of RE:Zero says that it's about Rebecca Chambers this time?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/plat...identevilzero/

http://www.gamerspress.com/dspreview...=447:confused:

Redjake · 02-12-2004, 08:30 AM

It's a VERY good game, and adds a nice twist to the usual gameplay. I haven't beat the game, but so far Leon isn't in the game.

The main characters are Rebecca Chambers from the first Resident Evil, and Billy, a convict accused of murder.

You can switch from character to character during the game. You can have them follow each other, or you can seperate them and let them go their own ways (controlled by you, of course).

You just hit a button and the switch from characters is almost instantaneous. A lot of the puzzles in the game require you to be at two places at once; this is where having two characters to control is the ticket.

So far though, and I've played all the Resident Evils, RE2 and Code: Veronica are my favorites.

Nancy · 02-12-2004, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Redjake

You can switch from character to character during the game. You can have them follow each other, or you can seperate them and let them go their own ways (controlled by you, of course).

You just hit a button and the switch from characters is almost instantaneous. A lot of the puzzles in the game require you to be at two places at once; this is where having two characters to control is the ticket.

really?! sounds great! and I guess that the puzzles are extra difficult if you have to be in two places at the same time?!

Redjake · 02-12-2004, 12:08 PM

they are a lot harder. it took me a good hour to figure out one of the puzzles. everytime I hit a switch to release the harpoon hanging on the wall, the clasps that held the harpoon gun would reset before I could run over there and grab the thing.

then I remembered I had another character in the room beside me.

I just put Billy next to the harpoon gun, Rebecca next to the switch, hit the switch with Rebecca, and then (quickly) switched to Billy and grabbed the gun

Nancy · 02-12-2004, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Redjake
they are a lot harder. it took me a good hour to figure out one of the puzzles. everytime I hit a switch to release the harpoon hanging on the wall, the clasps that held the harpoon gun would reset before I could run over there and grab the thing.

then I remembered I had another character in the room beside me.

I just put Billy next to the harpoon gun, Rebecca next to the switch, hit the switch with Rebecca, and then (quickly) switched to Billy and grabbed the gun

SCHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't reveal all the puzzles man!

Kadath · 02-12-2004, 06:25 PM

They key is to give Billy the submachine gun when you get it. He is a machine on CPU control with that thing. A friend of mine took that game down from start to finish, finished the leech hunt, got the unlimited magnum, etc. Very well executed game.

asudevil83 · 02-12-2004, 07:02 PM

i never played Zero, but i did get the REmake for the Cube. it was great.

and the upcoming RE4 looks AMAZING. i found some new info on the game, and it looks completely redone and a step up from the RE series.

Turn back now in case you don't want to know about the games. I didn't see a thread about it so I guess it's ok to make this thread.

1. They game can be played in first person or one of two new views. They are basically slight variations on a close third person camera.
2. It must be viewed in widescreen. If your tv doesn't support the 16:9 aspect ratio, the game will feature black bars on top and bottom of the screen to make sure you experience the game to its fullest on a 4:3 monitor. HDTV users, the game supports 480 progressive scan. This is needed because,...
3. In 3rd person, Leon fills the far left side of the screen. It feels like you are playing a first person shooter even withour Leon on the screen.
4. Controls are them same as before. However, health and ammo will now be onscreen.
5. Even with the old controls, the new views make it feel like an entirely different game.

Now for story:SPOILERS!!!!!

1. RE4 takes place in 2004, 6 years after RE2.
2. Umbrella is gone and with them,...the zombies.
3. Leon is hired by the president to guard his daughter. Before he can take the job, she is kidnapped and taken to a village in south america where all the villagers hunt him down in an eerie trance.
4. The worlds are completely wide open.
5. No more door animations or pre-rendered cutscenes. Everything is done in-engine.
6. Areas feature a few very brief loadtimes.
7. Enemies will react to damage done to them in places. Shooting an enemie in the foot will make them hobble.
8. Villagers are armed with sickles, axes, pitchforks, and many more sharp objects.Which they can throw at you. These are not mindless zombies.
9. You can shoot the thrown objects out of the air. If you time it right.
10. There is an action button. For instance, you can shoot an enemie and then quickly close the gap and kick them in the chest. Also to move objects in front of doors to keep villagers from you. Also to puch a ladder full of enemies off from you and more.
11. In a later level, you are in complete darkness and unable to see anything until the moonlight illuminates the villagers.
12. The villagers are smart. In later levels they get smarter. For instance, if you shoot at one, it won't continue to go towards you. It may run away and if you follow him, it could purposefully lead you to an area where 6 more await with bow guns. They are more human.

In the levels the play, the action was intense with many villagers after them. This was just the begining of the game.

There are plenty of photos and the game looks amazing. They say it is easily the best looking cube game yet.

Redjake · 02-12-2004, 07:27 PM

where did you get this info from? it sounds sketchy to me......

Lasereth · 02-13-2004, 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by asudevil83
There are plenty of photos and the game looks amazing. They say it is easily the best looking cube game yet.

Leave Capcom to make the best damned graphics ever.

Everytime they release a RE game it redefines the graphics genre for the system.

-Lasereth

asudevil83 · 02-13-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Redjake
where did you get this info from? it sounds sketchy to me......

i found it in another gaming forum....the information is supposed to be released in the next issue of Game Informer Magazine. a few people who already have it though posted this information.

here are some of the pictures from the mag. they arent the greatest quality, but you can get an idea of how amazing the graphics are for this game.

i found some much higher quality pics.

asudevil83 · 02-13-2004, 12:27 PM

and somebody was kind enough to type out the whole article from the magazine.

Quote:

In 1997, Resident Evil shocked the video game world. It signle-handedly introduced gamers to a new type of gaming thrill, labeled "survival horror" by its creator, Shinji Mikami. Its use of cinematic camera angels, shocking surprises, and panic-inducing zombies set a standard that video game creators have been chasing ever since.

Resident Evil 4 is set to change the industry yet again. Long in development, Resident Evil 4 was first shown in the U.S. at E3 2003. At that time, the game looked to play almost exactly like its predecessors. And, truth be told, it did all the way up until about six months ago, when Mikami stepped down as the head of Capcom's fabled Production Studio 4. In an effort to get back to what he does best, the legendary game creator took over as the director of Resident Evil 4.

Why the change? Mikami simply had become tired of spending too much time managing and not enough time being creative with his team. Talking to the group of over 50 developers working on RE 4, you can sense the inspiration that Mikami brings to the project. He told us story after story of how is team was going to do anything and everything to make this Resident Evil the most yet.

Tired of where the series was going, Mikami decided to take it in a new directio. Change the perspective in a Resident Evil game? Remove the zombies? Sounds completely insane, but that's indeed what has happened.

"I remember playing [Resident Evil] Zero and saying to myself that this is just more of the same," confided Mikami. "This is why I wanted to change the system. With the new system I once again feel nervous and scared when I play it.

The new system is suprisingly like the original, but also so unique and fresh that you can't help but love the innovation that Mikami has brought to this sequel. For one, the game can now be played in either the first-person perspective or from one of the two other, better (at least in our opinion) views which are basically slight variations on a close third-person camera.

But don't think for a second that Resident Evil 4 handles like any other third-person games you have played. For example, it must be viewed in widescreen mode. If your TV doesn't support the 16:9 aspect ratio, the game will feature black bars along the top and bottom to make sure you experience the game to its fullest on a 4:3 monitor. HDTV users will be happy to know the game supports 480 progressive scan, and will fill the entire screen when played on a widescreen TV.

This window size is crucial to how the game system works. When in third-person, Leon fills the far left side of the screen, which we thought would make aiming nearly impossible until we actually got our hands on the title. The game really feels like you are playing a first-person shooter, with or without Leon on the screen.

The controls themselves are virtually the same as the classic RE configuration players are used to. All the movement is handled by the left joystick, you hold the right trigger to aim, A to fire, down and B to make a quick turnaround, and the menu screen is almost completely identical to previous iterations. However, gamers will be happy to hear that both health and ammo are now represented onscreen.

Even though the controls feel eerily familiar, they are far less clumsy with the camera fixed to the gamer's perspective. In fact, we were surprised to find that RE plays like an almost entirely different game.

Hands On

Once again, RE4 follows the story of Leon, and takes place in 2004, six years after RE2. While Mikami promised us that there would be some past characters making a surprise visit in the game, many of the familiar elements of the RE universe have changed. gone is the Umbrella Corporation, and with it, the zombies that have long been the hallmark of the series. The story opens with Leon being hired by the President to protect his daughter. But before he can get on the job she is kidnapped, which leads Leon on a strange trip to a South American village where all the villagers hunt him down in an eerie trance. Are these people infected by a parasite? Is it an alien invasion? Is it terrorists? Mikami prmoised us that RE isn't going sci-fi, but he was unwilling to unveil why these humans are after you.

At this point in our visit, we actually got some hands-on time with the game. Like previous titles, you use herbs and sprays to replenish health, but you quickly realize that the world is a completely different place.

For one, you are outside and the level is not only incredibly gorgeous (in fact, this game is easily the best looking Gamecube title we have ever seen), but completely wide open. There are no door animations to sit through. No computer generated pre-rendered cutscenes. Everything is done in-enginem and the areas only feature a few very brief loads.

As we head down the road towards the village, we come across bear traps and laser trip-wires that the player must avoid, and finally get our first chance to blast an enemy or two. Aiming is simple, and we happily discover that an accurate headshot gives the player a satisfying "exploding melon" animation. That's not the only hit zone the game has to offer, either. The enemies display a wide array of animations. Shoot a walking villager in the foot and he hobbles, hit a running village in the foot and he collapses to the ground. All the major appendages react realistically to an assault from the front or back, left or right.

Another technique we picked up on is that if you shoot a villager and then quickly close the gap between you and your prey, the action button will pop up and let you deliver a hard kick in the chest.

Upon reaching the village, you can hear the people (if they can still be considered that) speaking in Spanish. From here, you use the action button to hide behind a nearby tree and use binoculars to zoom in on the goings on. The game quickly goes to a real-time cutscene. But as you may have guessed, since you have binoculars at your disposal, you are able to zoom in and out on the action at will. Mikami also revealed to us that a sniper rifle would be available later in the game.

This is where all hell breaks loose. We head into the village and they are on us like flies on crap. A sea of freaks descends on us. It is easily the most enemies we have ever seen on-screen in a RE game, and each character is highly detailed with spectacular texture work. They really look like villagers. Not only that, they are armed with sickles, axes, pitchforks, and all sorts of sharp utensils. But these aren't static zombies waiting to be whacked. The villagers start throwing weapons at you. And, if you time it right, you can shoot them right out of the air with a satisfying ping of metal as they fly off in another direction.

As we run into a nearby building, we discover that we can use the action button again to move a table in front of the door to stem the tide of evil villagers. Leaving them hacking and bashing at the door, we head upstairs and with a tap of the action button dive through a window and out to safety. Or so we think. A chainsaw rips to life (in crystal-clear Dolby Digital Pro Logic II surround sound) just behind us, and we quickly turn around to find ourselves face to face with a Texas Chainsaw Massacre wannabe complete with a bloody chainsaw and a burlap sack for a mask.

This is just a taste of the onslaught we face for the next five minutes. We shoot villagers off of roofs. We use the action button to push over a ladder full of deadly enemies. Heck, we even throw a grenade at a cow in the barn just to blow it to bits.

The controls are intuitive, the combat intense, and even with the loss of the exaggerated camera angles for dramatic effect, we still felt a blood-curdling sense of fear the entire time we played. It's a very claustrophobic experience. The enemies are always around you. And if they get close, they grab hold and leave you bashing buttons to get free.

In a later level, the entire area is dark. You can pick out some of the villagers as they hold torches, but you don't really know what is going on around you until lightning illuminates the sky. It's incredibly spooky. In fact, by using the closer camera angel, you know less about what is going on around you than you did with the previous fixed camera views.

Any concerns we had that the series would lose its hallmark horror with this new perspective were quickly thrown out the window after playing it, but Mikami reassured us anyhow.

"Up until now, all the games in the RE series have been about surprise. An enemy has jumped out; you aim at it, shoot it, and kill it. What I'm going for with this game is a more 'humanistic' fear. Which comes from the enemies not being 100 percent zombies, they actually have human characteristics. And because they are smart, they will try to trick you and trap you. As you proceed through the gmae, about halfway through the enemies start to become very, very smart. And what happens is, you'll shoot one, and instead of continuing to approach you like an idiot, it will realize you have a gun and are shooting at it. It will run away. So you may chase after it, and if you do, you will see that it has intentionally brought you into an area where there are five or six of them lined up with bow guns aimed to ambush you. Them being able to trick you and trap you brings in a whole new kind of fear. Also, since the enemies look more like humans, it makes it more realistic. The closer it is to reality, the closer it is to being truly scary.

Nancy · 02-14-2004, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by asudevil83
and somebody was kind enough to type out the whole article from the magazine.

Redjake I thought U said that the main characters were Rebecca Chambers and a guy called BILLY?! But according to asudevil83 it IS in fact Leon from RE2 like I had seen in an early trailer?!... you can watch the trailer here:

http://www.totallyre.com/

Redjake · 02-14-2004, 11:57 AM

Look all I know is that I've played the game half way through and a convict named Billy and Rebecca Chambers ARE the main characters. Unless Leon is unlocked as a character later, I'm right

Redjake · 02-14-2004, 12:01 PM

And you are confusing Resident Evil 4 with Resident Evil 0. You should read the articles and posts more carefully

Nancy · 02-15-2004, 08:10 AM

They make 0 before they make RE4?! what's up with that?! I'm confused right now

so the list of release is this?:

Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil: Nemesis
Resident Evil: Codename Veronica
Resident Evil: Zero
Resident Evil: Outbreak
Resident Evil: 4

or what?!

http://www.capcom.com/ResidentEvil/ (<- Outbreak)

Redjake · 02-15-2004, 10:40 AM

yes, that's the correct order! Zero has been out for quite a while now......

02-12-2004, 07:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nancy Femme Fatale Location: Elysium	Resident Evil: Zero Anyone tried it yet? I didn't even know that it had been released but I'm going to buy it as soon as possible since I LOVED all the previous Residen Evil games... I saw a trailer for RE:Zero a few months back and it featured Leon from RE2. But the reviews of RE:Zero says that it's about Rebecca Chambers this time? http://www.metacritic.com/games/plat...identevilzero/ http://www.gamerspress.com/dspreview...=447:confused: __________________ I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.

02-12-2004, 08:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	It's a VERY good game, and adds a nice twist to the usual gameplay. I haven't beat the game, but so far Leon isn't in the game. The main characters are Rebecca Chambers from the first Resident Evil, and Billy, a convict accused of murder. You can switch from character to character during the game. You can have them follow each other, or you can seperate them and let them go their own ways (controlled by you, of course). You just hit a button and the switch from characters is almost instantaneous. A lot of the puzzles in the game require you to be at two places at once; this is where having two characters to control is the ticket. So far though, and I've played all the Resident Evils, RE2 and Code: Veronica are my favorites. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-12-2004, 12:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	they are a lot harder. it took me a good hour to figure out one of the puzzles. everytime I hit a switch to release the harpoon hanging on the wall, the clasps that held the harpoon gun would reset before I could run over there and grab the thing. then I remembered I had another character in the room beside me. I just put Billy next to the harpoon gun, Rebecca next to the switch, hit the switch with Rebecca, and then (quickly) switched to Billy and grabbed the gun __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-12-2004, 06:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	They key is to give Billy the submachine gun when you get it. He is a machine on CPU control with that thing. A friend of mine took that game down from start to finish, finished the leech hunt, got the unlimited magnum, etc. Very well executed game. __________________ it's quiet in here

02-12-2004, 07:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	where did you get this info from? it sounds sketchy to me...... __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-12-2004, 07:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
asudevil83 Psycho Location: Scottsdale, AZ	i never played Zero, but i did get the REmake for the Cube. it was great. and the upcoming RE4 looks AMAZING. i found some new info on the game, and it looks completely redone and a step up from the RE series. Turn back now in case you don't want to know about the games. I didn't see a thread about it so I guess it's ok to make this thread. 1. They game can be played in first person or one of two new views. They are basically slight variations on a close third person camera. 2. It must be viewed in widescreen. If your tv doesn't support the 16:9 aspect ratio, the game will feature black bars on top and bottom of the screen to make sure you experience the game to its fullest on a 4:3 monitor. HDTV users, the game supports 480 progressive scan. This is needed because,... 3. In 3rd person, Leon fills the far left side of the screen. It feels like you are playing a first person shooter even withour Leon on the screen. 4. Controls are them same as before. However, health and ammo will now be onscreen. 5. Even with the old controls, the new views make it feel like an entirely different game. Now for story:SPOILERS!!!!! 1. RE4 takes place in 2004, 6 years after RE2. 2. Umbrella is gone and with them,...the zombies. 3. Leon is hired by the president to guard his daughter. Before he can take the job, she is kidnapped and taken to a village in south america where all the villagers hunt him down in an eerie trance. 4. The worlds are completely wide open. 5. No more door animations or pre-rendered cutscenes. Everything is done in-engine. 6. Areas feature a few very brief loadtimes. 7. Enemies will react to damage done to them in places. Shooting an enemie in the foot will make them hobble. 8. Villagers are armed with sickles, axes, pitchforks, and many more sharp objects.Which they can throw at you. These are not mindless zombies. 9. You can shoot the thrown objects out of the air. If you time it right. 10. There is an action button. For instance, you can shoot an enemie and then quickly close the gap and kick them in the chest. Also to move objects in front of doors to keep villagers from you. Also to puch a ladder full of enemies off from you and more. 11. In a later level, you are in complete darkness and unable to see anything until the moonlight illuminates the villagers. 12. The villagers are smart. In later levels they get smarter. For instance, if you shoot at one, it won't continue to go towards you. It may run away and if you follow him, it could purposefully lead you to an area where 6 more await with bow guns. They are more human. In the levels the play, the action was intense with many villagers after them. This was just the begining of the game. There are plenty of photos and the game looks amazing. They say it is easily the best looking cube game yet.

02-14-2004, 11:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	Look all I know is that I've played the game half way through and a convict named Billy and Rebecca Chambers ARE the main characters. Unless Leon is unlocked as a character later, I'm right __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-14-2004, 12:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	And you are confusing Resident Evil 4 with Resident Evil 0. You should read the articles and posts more carefully __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-15-2004, 08:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
Nancy Femme Fatale Location: Elysium	They make 0 before they make RE4?! what's up with that?! I'm confused right now so the list of release is this?: Resident Evil Resident Evil 2 Resident Evil: Nemesis Resident Evil: Codename Veronica Resident Evil: Zero Resident Evil: Outbreak Resident Evil: 4 or what?! http://www.capcom.com/ResidentEvil/ (<- Outbreak) __________________ I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.

02-15-2004, 10:40 AM	#16 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	yes, that's the correct order! Zero has been out for quite a while now...... __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.