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Anyone plan on playing World of Warcraft? ;)

to be honest at first i thought "doh this could be it, blizzard very first big bomb".

and im a huge fan of blizzard and mmorpgs.

but now im really looking forward to it.
primarily for one single reason.

in an interview with blizzard one after asked what they wanted different from their mmorpg, they said something to the effect of: The player should be concerned about just gaining a new level, they should be having alot of fun doing others things and then all of a sudden found that theyve lvled up.

from then on i have been a big supporter.

I am in for sure. I have been playing Galaxies for the last few months but I am getting really bored with it.

why get wow when FFXI is here.

For the love of god, stop.

Please.

Just stop.

all hail FFXI!

hahahaha!

so um.. yeah.. im gonna try to balance my WoW and FFXI time.. and see which one i like the best. :P

i hear FFXI is awesome though because it actually has a single player goal along with an actual "last boss" type battle with it as well..
thats great.

FFXI IMO is just a level-treadmill with no real style, poor graphics housed in a Final Fantasy shell.

I will definitely be playing WoW as a Blizzard game has never sucked and the style and the gameplay mechanics of it looks amazing, possibly catering to my playing preference as well. It also has the Blizzy signature touch of humor to it that I'm sure Square can't get out.

Imagine fighting gigantic, detailed Pit Lords and Void Demons with a group of ragtag adventurers that don't look like Japanese supermodels :-P

I'll see you all in Azeroth :)

Absoloutly hands-down getting this game when it comes out. Actually, I'm going to take that a step further and sign up for the beta. Or even further, and break into the Blizzard offices in the dead of the night and steal the most up-to-date copy they have.

I gotta lie down.

sell me your copy if you dont like it.

WoW.. If I could get on the beta, I would.. Too bad they do most of thier beta internal, and for external, you have to live in California :(

Yea, this is the only game i'm looking forward to now. I'm getting really really burned out on Dark Age of Camelot.

any rumors on when they plan to release WoW? i know they havn't started testing it yet, but i'd like to know the appx timeframe.

woot, i love warcraft, though i haven't played it since like...1998. Ha.

just dont have the money for new computer games, and if i do, i buy games that my friends are playing.

wait let me see if i get this


pay money for a game and then keep paying money every month


god that sounds like fun

You're paying for added features in the game, constant updates, 100% technical support, online play, and additions to the game that are made usually by the month. Why do we only pay once for non-MMORPGs? Well, how many single player games do you play a hundred hours per month for a year straight that has bonus features added every month, tech support, features added every month, the ability to play with thousands of people at one time, and have fun while doing it? None. That's why single player games are $40, and MMORPGs have a monthly fee.

Don't get me wrong, I love single player games and I play them more than MMORPGs, but MMORPGs aren't a rip off unless you do it yourself. If you don't like it, then cancel the subscription. If you like it, then it's not a rip off.

-Lasereth

Maintaining a lot of servers, reparing them, etc costs money. Constant updates and bug fixes cost money. New content and features cost money. Good customer service costs money.
You get the idea.

yeah I dont stick with MMO's unless the company makes some semblance of action resembling customer service.

i mean lets face it, you pay 50$ for the game

after that the monly fee's are not for the game but rather i portend that its a 50/50 split.

say im paying 12$ a month on a game, I like to think that 6$ of that is keeping my account maintained and having it save my progress every time I play, the other 6$ I would like to think is keeping people working on bug fixes and dealing with customer service.

EQ has pretty good response times, but rarely were able to actually do anything to help you. but they were still the best as far as in game support.

UO has shafted me more times than not

SWG, well, it doesnt exist, as the most expensive MMO out there, they dont answer a single trouble ticket OR come out with any worthwhile bug fixes. infact they've released too many bug fixes that have hosed peoples installations and had to revert when they noticed half thier players just disappeared.

anyways I hear really good stuff about FFXI and well, judging from battle.net, I kinda worry about WoW.

anyone remember how bad battle.net was when it 1st started?


yeah..........

o i understand were the cost goes

i just dont think its worth it

for the love of god get a social life

I've been looking forward to WoW since it was announced. Check out www.fohguild.org for some new scoop from some EQ players that got to test WoW with their friend that works at Blizzard.

wtf is that supposed to mean?

if you don't know me, keep your mouth shut

look man what i am saying is that way to many people spend way to much time on mmorpgs


balance

that's probably true

but hey, whatever floats their boat.

yeah im a casual mmo'r probably no more than 3 or 4 hours a day.


if I had a full time job, it would probably only be about 2 hours a day.

but as it is, my website, my reselling of websites, and my 3 hour a day job are all i need right now :p

btw anyone wanna get some cheap as hell hosting? hehehe hah oh ok i kill me, im not funny

Actually I still looking more forward to EQ2. I hope WOW is great though in case EQ2 disappoints.

A lot of people spend too much time outside and being social in my opinion. Like stinky said, whatever floats your boat. I wouldn't be caught dead drinking a beer or smoking a cigarette, much less going to a party.

-Lasereth

Aside from your 1000 of people at once... I can answer you. As for that 1000 of people at once.. I've play a small part of MMO's.. currently I'm doing a bit of EQ.. and I have yet to PLAY with 1000 people.. I might see 1000 people sitting in town making a giant chat room with avs... but to PLAY with them... it has yet to get bigger than any normal game I own. The one exception would be PlanetSide, but I make sure I don't get that game solely because I know not only would it use up my free time, but also the time that I don't have. Shit I already use up time I don't have.. planetside would only make things worse! heh. For one game with constant updates, good tech support, blah blah blah.. Check out Purge: Jihad. Everything you stated.. the publisher sucked ass and thus no one heard about the game. Definately worth your money, and its only like 35 bucks.. and I do believe there is a 5 dollar coupon for it floating on the net somewhere.

BattleField? I have yet need to ask Tech Support, I play in games with 50-60 people... I play that A LOT. Oh I should mention Tribes2, anyone that knows me knows I have logged millions of hours into that game. There are some nifty mods which are basically like expansions for that game.

I'm not here to say MMO's suck.. I'm trying EQ.. I can't do that until AFTER the account goes down. ;) I'm just here to point out that there are lots of single buy games that I have logged TONS of hours in. You said none, I just want to show different. ;)

As for WoW? I dunno sounds kinda neat, but again i'm not a huge MMO player, I'll see how things go with EQ.. if its good, I might try out WoW if I hear lots of good reviews. Personally I really want to try out City of Heroes.

WOAH first person I've ever in my entire life say this...

just a question have you played EQ in the last... 6 months?

Oh, I understand that single player games can get ya addicted. I played through Final Fantasy 7 twice with 99 hours on both files. Hell, I played SSX Tricky almost every single day/week until SSX3 came out and I bought Tricky on opening day.

I'm just saying that for the time you must spend on MMORPGs, most single player games don't last that long. I had 1,600 hours on my Ranger on EQ. The average Final Fantasy game takes 40-50 hours to beat if you're a gamer. 1,600 compared to 40 is a bit contrasting! My ranger was only level 50 as well. I still had many, many hours to go.

There are many great single player games out there that last a damn long time (Xenogears, Grandia, etc.), but I've never played one that I spent more than 200 hours on, much less 1600. Ha ha, maybe I just play MMORPGs too much? :)

-Lasereth

warlords battlecry 2

i have played easily 3000 hours on this game and i still play it often

i do see your point about the final fanasty contrast

yeah I gotcha lasereth.. I'm an online gamer though, so no matter how much I play there's always another game waiting :D

I can't wait...My dad's friend's friend is one of the designers for it or something....i haveta get in contact with him.

I've got an arch-nemisis now, it seams that you like to post against what i have to say....anyways, i dont mean to be so biast, i think WoW will be a wonderfull game, but, my excitement for FFXI is so great that i enjoy telling everyone about it, and i have had 90% positive responce, read the FFXI thread, everyon is enjoying it. Even people on this thread say "all hail FFXI" doesnt mean i cant like 2 games. But this one isnt even out yet.

go check out the game, im sure one of your freinds owns it, go watch him play it. Enjoy.

WoW will be a good game, I trust blizzard as much as i trust square, blizzard also has a better track record with games, ive boght and enjoyed ALL of them. Unlike Square. Either way, out of lack of money, ill have to just play one MMORPG.

I will get it if it gets good reviews. I've never played a MMO game before, but I have spent countless hours playing Warcraft3 and Diablo2LOD online.

FF11 is a good MMORPG for people who are new to MMORPG, thats about it. As far as WoW, well, that will most likely be the best thing in MMORPG history since UO based on the time invested in it as well as the things I have read about it.

i'll be all over this like white on rice.

i'm lookin forward to have a good MMORPG to play again. i quit EQ a few years ago and havent found a game that has really taken ahold of me like it since, but there is no way i'd go back to EQ, it was DEFINITELY time to leave that sinking ship...

Yeah. I quit a year and a half ago and don't regret it one bit. I don't want to imagine how bad the players are on it now. They were bad enough to make me want to quit then...I imagine it's only got worse.

-Lasereth

i dont smoke or drink at all


and i have never been to a party ever


i do belive i said balance

There is already a large FFXI thread, which you can post all sorts of praise for FFXI, on. This is a thread that was specifically created for World of Warcraft, and by posting only vague praise for another game, without any sort of real information, you aren't really helping the thread out at all. If you like something about FFXI and hope that it is implemented in WoW, or dislike that it will not be implemented in WoW, post that. That would stimulate discussion and get some ideas and comments floating around. Of course, it's not against the rules to post "Why play WoW when you can play FFXI?", but imho it really isn't a worthwhile contribution.

I have no intention of ever playing FFXI, for a variety of reasons. I have friends who have played it (past tense), and I've played EverQuest for three years (perhaps the worst failure of any mmorpg as far as the customer is concerned), and really don't trust Square to do a good enough job to warrant me paying monthly and investing huge amounts of time into a character.

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There is a new WoW update for those who don't check the Blizzard site every couple of days. Trolls and Gnomes have been added to the Town Hall and there is a Tradeskills page hidden away.

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I plan on playing WoW. So far from what I've seen it looks like it may be good.

I some some WOW screenshots yesterday and I was very impressed from an aesthetic aspect.

thats my biggest problem with were blizz is heading

seems to be to much focus on graphics and not enough of good game making

[QUOTE]Originally posted by seretogis
[B] There is already a large FFXI thread, which you can post all sorts of praise for FFXI, on. This is a thread that was specifically created for World of Warcraft, and by posting only vague praise for another game, without any sort of real information, you aren't really helping the thread out at all. If you like something about FFXI and hope that it is implemented in WoW, or dislike that it will not be implemented in WoW, post that. That would stimulate discussion and get some ideas and comments floating around. Of course, it's not against the rules to post "Why play WoW when you can play FFXI?", but imho it really isn't a worthwhile contribution.



I have no intention of ever playing FFXI, for a variety of reasons. I have friends who have played it (past tense), and I've played EverQuest for three years (perhaps the worst failure of any mmorpg as far as the customer is concerned), and really don't trust Square to do a good enough job to warrant me paying monthly and investing huge amounts of time into a character.

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There is a new WoW update for those who don't check the Blizzard site every couple of days. Trolls and Gnomes have been added to the Town Hall and there is a Tradeskills page hidden away.



I see, so I guess you telling me to stop is posting about FFXI is ok? Sure, ok.

Also, i am just one out of 5 people that had to say something about FFXI.

What?

Blizzard has been getting slammed for not focusing enough on graphics, because the models in WoW are not as detailed as those in EQ2. The major selling-point of WoW is that it will not just be pretty pictures with levels, but a deep story-driven game with dynamic events and a reason to play. You are the first person that I have seen claim that Blizzard is focusing too much on graphics, and that is not whining because Night Elves don't look photorealistic.

you have played warcraft 3 right

its blizz worse game by far


to much graphic not enough good old fashion programing


unlike there other games there is not a dam thing that is origanl or innovative

What are you smoking? :lol:

It's my favorite game of all time:cool:
I challange you to find a bad review.

# Computer Strategy Game of the Year - Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences
# Game of the Year - Gamespot
# Game of the Year - Macworld
# Game of the Year - XSages
# Game of the Year - Fragland
# Game of the Year - Cinescape
# Game of the Year - Gaming Illustrated
# Best PC Game of the Year - GameNOW
# Best Real-Time Strategy Game of the Year - PC Gamer
# Best Multiplayer Strategy Game of the Year - Gamespot
# Best PC Strategy Game of the Year - GameNOW
# Best PC Strategy Game of the Year - Game Revolution
# Best PC Strategy Game of the Year - Telefragged
# Best PC Strategy Game of the Year - OCAddiction
# Best PC Strategy Game of the Year (Reader's Choice) - GameSpot
# Readers’ Choice 2002: Best PC Game of the Year - GamePro
# Strategy Game of the Year - Gamer's Pulse
# Gamer's Choice: Overall PC Game of the Year - Gamespy
# Gamer's Choice: PC Strategy Game of the Year - Gamespy
# Best Non-Interactive 3D Game Cinematics - International 3D Awards
# Best Cinematic - IGN
# Best CG Cinematics (tie) - Gamespy's Best of E3 2002 Awards
# Best Opening Movie - Game Chronicles
# Editor's Choice (10 out of 10 rating) - Game Chronicles
# Editor's Choice (9.6 out of 10 rating) - Gaming Illustrated
# Editor's Choice (9.5 out of 10 rating) - SLCCentral
# Editor's Choice (9.5 out of 10 rating) - The Entertainment Depot
# Editor's Choice (95 out of 100 rating) - Action Trip
# Editor's Choice (94 out of 100 rating) - PC Gamer
# Editor's Choice (93 out of 100 rating) - Gaming Excellence
# Editor's Choice (93 out of 100 rating) - Invisible Dream
# Editor's Choice (9.3 out of 10 rating) - IGN
# Editor's Choice (92 out of 100 rating) - Gamitopia
# Editor's Choice (9.1 out of 10 rating) - Firing Squad
# Editor's Choice (8.7 out of 10 rating) - Strategy Gaming Online
# 5 out of 5 rating - Games First
# 5 out of 5 rating (Award for Excellence) - Wargamer.com
# 5 out of 5 rating (Seal of Excellence) - The Adrenaline Vault
# 6 out of 6 rating (Drool Award) - Gamers Depot.com
# 9.7 out of 10 rating (Outstanding Game Award) - GameZone.com
# 97 out of 100 rating - Wired Play
# 96 out of 100 rating (Award of Excellence) - The Gamers Temple
# 95 out of 100 rating (GG Platinum Award) - Gone Gold
# 93 out of 100 rating - Game Rankings
# 9.3 out of 10 rating - Geek Haven
# 9.3 out of 10 rating (Game of the Month July 2002) - GameSpot
# 92 out of 100 rating (AOG Approved) - All Out Games
# 9 out of 10 rating (Mindless Choice Award) - Mindless Games
# 90 out of 100 rating (Gamers' Choice Award) - Game Over
# 8.9 out of 10 rating (Silver Hell Award) - Gamer's Hell
# 4 out of 5 rating (Top Game) - Games Domain
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# Best Cinematic/Cut-Scene Audio - Music4Games.net

Umm, yeah what are you smoking, warcraft 3 was the greatest thing to come out from blizzard since starcraft. I cant wait for them to develop starcraft II. What ARE you smoking son?

war carft 3 is not origanal or innovative

it does not hold a canddle to any of blizzards other games for replayabity

that said if it did not come form blizz i would problay like it but i hold blizzard to a higher starand then making a rehash of a better game that being warlords battle cry 2


maybe i would like it more if they had done it frist or best

witch they did neither

Your highly outnumbered. look at all those awards, they dont give shit games, awards like that. Warcraft III is one of the best PC games on the market right now.

bull shit there are tons and i mean tons of great games to not get a award

and there are more then a few bad game to get awards


war 3 is one of them


i am sorry but there is better much better in rts games

Reading comprehension is your friend :D

Hey, WoW looks like it's gonna be a great game. But I'm kind of not looking forward to it as much as before since I got FFXI. I'm not going to judge how good WoW is until I play the beta test... Even if I don't get in I can still play it a LAN center in town that is getting into it.

I thinks MMORPG's should be like 20-30 dollars. cuz u need to pay every month to play ne ways, and the cost of makin these games cant be more than 5 dollars at the most... If you sold a game for 20 dollars that cost you 5 dollars, and the gamer didnt like it, you get a 15 dollar profit.. if the buyer did like it, you get that constant flow of cash.. an MMORPG being the same price as an offline game from the beginning sounds wrong... .. just my opiny

I've very exited for this game to be released.

The only MMORPG I paid for was ATITD, 13$/mo and free to download and try for 24hours of play time. I knew I was going to hate it until I tried it :D. I wish more companies adopted this tactic.

Currently playing EQ and FFXI, but one of them will most likely be getting the boot when WoW is release. Well, for me, it sure is shaping up nicely to my style of play. =) Can't wait!

I'm very much looking forward to the release of beta. I don't want to wait another damn year to play a new MMORPG and Horizons and EQ2 aren't really interesting me nearly as much as WoW is.

Anyone read up on the trade skills? Go to the blizz website and check 'em out if you haven't. It looks BAD-ASS. And the best part?

Taken from the Blizzard website:
There are many unique weapons and other armaments that cannot be found on any of the vendors or monsters in the game, but can only be created by Blacksmiths.


Now try and tell me that doesn't get you hard.

WoW is going to suck with PK zones. Its warcraft for christ sake and its going carebear?

This WILL bomb.

umm the reason there is a fee is because they continue to add content, and often times there is more content in the beginning then other games. These games usually keep on a staff of people to help with gamers problems while playing as well. It's like belonging to a club. And yes the actual disk may have cost 5 dollars but there were many hours upon hours of programming to get the disk to come out.

Since everyone jumped on dragon for saying this, I'm going to back it. I was flat out addicted to WC2 & SC. Couldn't stop playing them to save my life. WC3 started strong but then just drifted. I never did finish it. It was beautiful and smooth but ultimately somehow shallow. I don't care how many awards it won, Blizzard let me down with that one.

Sounds like you are worn out on the genre, not the game.

possiby, but im guessing he just didn't like the game

I know thats not the case with me i play warlords battlecry 2 all the time

All I can say is that the game didn't take it to that extra level for me. I won't try to tell you I thought it was a bad game. But held to the (incredibly high) standard that StarCraft set, it didn't deliver. If I hadn't played so much WC2 & SC I'm sure my expectations would've been different, so perhaps in a sense I was "worn out". But if SC2 were released today I would buy it immediately.

I'm glad to hear that so many of you had a great experience with WC3. But I wanted to acknowledge dragon2fire's controversial opinion as shared by at least one other gamer.

now, I don't play RTS, so i can't really say what I think about WC3.. although the graphics were polished nicely. To me its just like any other RTS on the market with a few perks. But I must say, I've Seen Dragon2Fire play Battlecry 2 quite a few times, and that game looks excellent. Personally I think it is probably a lot better than WC3.

god, galaxies was awesome... after the problems that all mmrpgs have with launch... but then people kept complaining and they kept nerfing everything. i swear i went through 8 diff chars before i just gave up.... they made everything useless. my friend got lucky and sold chars over ebay for like 500 bucks before they got nerfed... they mustve been pissed... and as far as ffx1 goes.... well i heard u cant create char so everyone u run into looks exactly the same as you (yay!) sounds like a school uniform type of thing... blah, and the fact that the controls were prob just remapped in 1 min for the pc port, paying no attention as to offer a configuration option. horrible horrible... wow.... is gonna tear them all apart. i thought ffx1 would have achance ... but not in this world... or this hell.