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Old 11-19-2003, 04:38 PM   #41 (permalink)
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thats my biggest problem with were blizz is heading

seems to be to much focus on graphics and not enough of good game making
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Old 11-19-2003, 04:49 PM   #42 (permalink)
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by seretogis
[B] There is already a large FFXI thread, which you can post all sorts of praise for FFXI, on. This is a thread that was specifically created for World of Warcraft, and by posting only vague praise for another game, without any sort of real information, you aren't really helping the thread out at all. If you like something about FFXI and hope that it is implemented in WoW, or dislike that it will not be implemented in WoW, post that. That would stimulate discussion and get some ideas and comments floating around. Of course, it's not against the rules to post "Why play WoW when you can play FFXI?", but imho it really isn't a worthwhile contribution.



I have no intention of ever playing FFXI, for a variety of reasons. I have friends who have played it (past tense), and I've played EverQuest for three years (perhaps the worst failure of any mmorpg as far as the customer is concerned), and really don't trust Square to do a good enough job to warrant me paying monthly and investing huge amounts of time into a character.

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For the love of god, stop.

Please.

Just stop.
I see, so I guess you telling me to stop is posting about FFXI is ok? Sure, ok.

Also, i am just one out of 5 people that had to say something about FFXI.
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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thats my biggest problem with were blizz is heading

seems to be to much focus on graphics and not enough of good game making
What?

Blizzard has been getting slammed for not focusing enough on graphics, because the models in WoW are not as detailed as those in EQ2. The major selling-point of WoW is that it will not just be pretty pictures with levels, but a deep story-driven game with dynamic events and a reason to play. You are the first person that I have seen claim that Blizzard is focusing too much on graphics, and that is not whining because Night Elves don't look photorealistic.
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Old 11-21-2003, 11:03 AM   #44 (permalink)
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What?

Blizzard has been getting slammed for not focusing enough on graphics, because the models in WoW are not as detailed as those in EQ2. The major selling-point of WoW is that it will not just be pretty pictures with levels, but a deep story-driven game with dynamic events and a reason to play. You are the first person that I have seen claim that Blizzard is focusing too much on graphics, and that is not whining because Night Elves don't look photorealistic.

you have played warcraft 3 right

its blizz worse game by far


to much graphic not enough good old fashion programing


unlike there other games there is not a dam thing that is origanl or innovative
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Old 11-21-2003, 12:33 PM   #45 (permalink)
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you have played warcraft 3 right

its blizz worse game by far


to much graphic not enough good old fashion programing


unlike there other games there is not a dam thing that is origanl or innovative
What are you smoking?
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Old 11-21-2003, 12:33 PM   #46 (permalink)
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you have played warcraft 3 right

its blizz worse game by far


to much graphic not enough good old fashion programing


unlike there other games there is not a dam thing that is origanl or innovative
It's my favorite game of all time
I challange you to find a bad review.

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Old 11-21-2003, 12:58 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Umm, yeah what are you smoking, warcraft 3 was the greatest thing to come out from blizzard since starcraft. I cant wait for them to develop starcraft II. What ARE you smoking son?
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Old 11-21-2003, 01:40 PM   #48 (permalink)
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war carft 3 is not origanal or innovative

it does not hold a canddle to any of blizzards other games for replayabity

that said if it did not come form blizz i would problay like it but i hold blizzard to a higher starand then making a rehash of a better game that being warlords battle cry 2


maybe i would like it more if they had done it frist or best

witch they did neither
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Old 11-23-2003, 02:34 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Originally posted by dragon2fire
war carft 3 is not origanal or innovative

it does not hold a canddle to any of blizzards other games for replayabity

that said if it did not come form blizz i would problay like it but i hold blizzard to a higher starand then making a rehash of a better game that being warlords battle cry 2


maybe i would like it more if they had done it frist or best

witch they did neither
Your highly outnumbered. look at all those awards, they dont give shit games, awards like that. Warcraft III is one of the best PC games on the market right now.
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:28 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Your highly outnumbered. look at all those awards, they dont give shit games, awards like that. Warcraft III is one of the best PC games on the market right now.

bull shit there are tons and i mean tons of great games to not get a award

and there are more then a few bad game to get awards


war 3 is one of them


i am sorry but there is better much better in rts games
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Old 11-23-2003, 03:52 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:11 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Hey, WoW looks like it's gonna be a great game. But I'm kind of not looking forward to it as much as before since I got FFXI. I'm not going to judge how good WoW is until I play the beta test... Even if I don't get in I can still play it a LAN center in town that is getting into it.
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Old 11-25-2003, 05:41 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I thinks MMORPG's should be like 20-30 dollars. cuz u need to pay every month to play ne ways, and the cost of makin these games cant be more than 5 dollars at the most... If you sold a game for 20 dollars that cost you 5 dollars, and the gamer didnt like it, you get a 15 dollar profit.. if the buyer did like it, you get that constant flow of cash.. an MMORPG being the same price as an offline game from the beginning sounds wrong... .. just my opiny
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Old 11-25-2003, 07:34 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I've very exited for this game to be released.

The only MMORPG I paid for was ATITD, 13$/mo and free to download and try for 24hours of play time. I knew I was going to hate it until I tried it . I wish more companies adopted this tactic.
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Old 11-25-2003, 10:19 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Currently playing EQ and FFXI, but one of them will most likely be getting the boot when WoW is release. Well, for me, it sure is shaping up nicely to my style of play. =) Can't wait!
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Old 11-27-2003, 10:20 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm very much looking forward to the release of beta. I don't want to wait another damn year to play a new MMORPG and Horizons and EQ2 aren't really interesting me nearly as much as WoW is.
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Old 11-28-2003, 09:37 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Anyone read up on the trade skills? Go to the blizz website and check 'em out if you haven't. It looks BAD-ASS. And the best part?

Taken from the Blizzard website:
There are many unique weapons and other armaments that cannot be found on any of the vendors or monsters in the game, but can only be created by Blacksmiths.


Now try and tell me that doesn't get you hard.
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Old 11-29-2003, 06:43 AM   #58 (permalink)
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WoW is going to suck with PK zones. Its warcraft for christ sake and its going carebear?

This WILL bomb.
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Old 11-29-2003, 11:02 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I thinks MMORPG's should be like 20-30 dollars. cuz u need to pay every month to play ne ways, and the cost of makin these games cant be more than 5 dollars at the most... If you sold a game for 20 dollars that cost you 5 dollars, and the gamer didnt like it, you get a 15 dollar profit.. if the buyer did like it, you get that constant flow of cash.. an MMORPG being the same price as an offline game from the beginning sounds wrong... .. just my opiny
umm the reason there is a fee is because they continue to add content, and often times there is more content in the beginning then other games. These games usually keep on a staff of people to help with gamers problems while playing as well. It's like belonging to a club. And yes the actual disk may have cost 5 dollars but there were many hours upon hours of programming to get the disk to come out.
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Old 11-29-2003, 01:21 PM   #60 (permalink)
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you have played warcraft 3 right

its blizz worse game by far
Since everyone jumped on dragon for saying this, I'm going to back it. I was flat out addicted to WC2 & SC. Couldn't stop playing them to save my life. WC3 started strong but then just drifted. I never did finish it. It was beautiful and smooth but ultimately somehow shallow. I don't care how many awards it won, Blizzard let me down with that one.
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Old 11-29-2003, 09:26 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Since everyone jumped on dragon for saying this, I'm going to back it. I was flat out addicted to WC2 & SC. Couldn't stop playing them to save my life. WC3 started strong but then just drifted. I never did finish it. It was beautiful and smooth but ultimately somehow shallow. I don't care how many awards it won, Blizzard let me down with that one.
Sounds like you are worn out on the genre, not the game.
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Old 11-29-2003, 10:17 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Sounds like you are worn out on the genre, not the game.
possiby, but im guessing he just didn't like the game
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Old 11-29-2003, 11:32 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Sounds like you are worn out on the genre, not the game.

I know thats not the case with me i play warlords battlecry 2 all the time
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Old 11-30-2003, 12:02 AM   #64 (permalink)
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All I can say is that the game didn't take it to that extra level for me. I won't try to tell you I thought it was a bad game. But held to the (incredibly high) standard that StarCraft set, it didn't deliver. If I hadn't played so much WC2 & SC I'm sure my expectations would've been different, so perhaps in a sense I was "worn out". But if SC2 were released today I would buy it immediately.

I'm glad to hear that so many of you had a great experience with WC3. But I wanted to acknowledge dragon2fire's controversial opinion as shared by at least one other gamer.
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Old 11-30-2003, 02:00 AM   #65 (permalink)
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now, I don't play RTS, so i can't really say what I think about WC3.. although the graphics were polished nicely. To me its just like any other RTS on the market with a few perks. But I must say, I've Seen Dragon2Fire play Battlecry 2 quite a few times, and that game looks excellent. Personally I think it is probably a lot better than WC3.
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Old 12-01-2003, 12:31 AM   #66 (permalink)
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god, galaxies was awesome... after the problems that all mmrpgs have with launch... but then people kept complaining and they kept nerfing everything. i swear i went through 8 diff chars before i just gave up.... they made everything useless. my friend got lucky and sold chars over ebay for like 500 bucks before they got nerfed... they mustve been pissed... and as far as ffx1 goes.... well i heard u cant create char so everyone u run into looks exactly the same as you (yay!) sounds like a school uniform type of thing... blah, and the fact that the controls were prob just remapped in 1 min for the pc port, paying no attention as to offer a configuration option. horrible horrible... wow.... is gonna tear them all apart. i thought ffx1 would have achance ... but not in this world... or this hell.
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