its hard to buy an one of these when you see the games that it has :(

tomb radier as a top title release.....common

Hahaha, the N-Gage is just about the biggest joke on the gaming industry. Maybe if they made a deal with Nintendo, and had a "phone" version of the GBA, then that'd be cool. But whoever bought one, it will be like the Dreamcast, just no games. And it won't die with glory. *Looks over to his nice clean DC and goes over to all the games* =)

Dreamcast ownz. period.

Almost bought one but didnt after I tried the one they had on display, it sucked. screen too small to make out what I was doing on Tony Hawk

Eh, gotta disagree:

The failure of the DC was a tragedy.
The failure of the N-Gage is awesome.

:D

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uh... wha? is there some joke i'm not getting?

http://www.sidetalkin.com

I won't identify myself precisely, but I will admit to being one of the people on the first page. :)

I was at E3 when the introduced the N-Gage. The booth was empty. They were trying to get peple to play it without success. I gave it a shot just to check it out cause it was the first I heard of it. I put it in my hands for only 30 seconds at the most and walked away.

The Dreamcast had awsome games...I still mourn it's death.. ;_;

N-Gage has some fucking sad adverts, in the pic above the N-Gage ad reads "THIS IS WHERE I BEAT UP THREE KIDS" (instead of "This is where i decided to...") or at least something to that extent, trying to emphasise the mobility of the N-Gage.

Oh my god! That fucking rocks!!!
http://www.sidetalkin.com/images/talkin-37.jpg

The videogame industry is almost as difficult to break into as the automotive industry.
People are fiercely loyal over their brand choices (Ford vs. Chevy, Sony vs. Nintendo), have in house developer/designers (SVT, Bungie), and is a multi-billion dollar industry.
The problem is, companies think that videogaming is a cash cow and don't realize the inherent problems of the industry. They believe if it has a moving picture, and noise, that people will flock to it and hand over their monies. They act as if the customer is an idiot.
Also, like the auto industry, unless you've been around since the 'beginning' of modern gaming (Nintendo, Sega, somewhat Sony), you need to work your ass off to get a good reputation in the industry. Didn't microsoft have to spend half a billion dollars on advertising just to get a foothold in North America? Also, if microsoft hadn't have bought the reputable Bungie development company, they would have fared much worse in their launch.
As much as this thing is going to fail, I can't help but feel sorry for the exec that passed this idea on with an open palmed slap on the ass. There's a lot of money to be lost here, along with some jobs.

Hey is that the N-Gage or a dead horse? *kicks N-Gage in the crotch* Oh wow it's both!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../tech_nokia_dc

*cough*bullshit*cough*

Wakelagger, doesn't Sony (and MS, somewhat) act as a counterexample though? Sony came out of nowhere and kicked everyone's ass. And they did it nobly by creating a great system and playing their cards right with third party developers. Companies think that the video game industry is a cash cow, probably because they look at Sony's profits in awe. They think if Sony (who entered as a dark horse in the running) can do it, why can't we?

And it's not like the video game industry isn't always filled with the same names, as you imply. There was once Sega, and Atari, both of which had strongholds in the inudstry, and are now all but non-existent. And now there's Sony and MS. Companies enter the fray, some perservere, some don't, and no one company has a monopoly.... seems like a fair deal to me.

Also, about comparing it to the auto industry: when was the last time a major automaker decided to leave the industry, like how Sega and Atari have left theirs? I can't think of one...

No but they've left the North American markets. Renault, Fiat, Daihatsu to name a few.
The gaming industry is a cash cow, for the few that are successfull. Many developement companies come and go every year. And even some that are somewhat successfull are a flop away from going in the toilet.

If it was as strict handheld wireless gaming console it could of done very well.....looks very flawed :( somebody needs to slap some sense into some designers....