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chwmeinthg · 07-30-2003, 03:36 AM

the solution to this thread is....buy them all. honestly...i think bringing console games to pc takes the soul out of the game. games like halo were landmarks for the console world...but for pc...its just another game. also...gta is not that great...in my opinion.

CaptainFluffer · 07-30-2003, 07:41 AM

After owning both. I'm still not sure. The only reason I play Xbox more is because of Marvel Vs. Capcom2 and Rallisport Challenge. PS2 still has the advantage RPG-wise. But I'll forever love the PC more. If it didn't have any PS2 or Xbox games, it'd still be the best gaming machine. As far as GTA, it's fun, but I'd rather watch my friends play. That's more for fun than me playing.

YaWhateva · 07-30-2003, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^dude
Its different for differnet people, pc gamers would prefer the xbox, more fps games and xbox live, however PS2 has loads of games, i've got a ps2, but wouldn't mind an xbox.

Um i am a big pc gamer and i hate the XBox. But i did grow up on console games and find that having a game with substance that you can play over and over and not get tired of is much better than having a game with "purty graphics". And the only two RPGs that the XBox has that are worth anything are KOTOR and Panzer Dragoon Orta (i think these are rpgs i never played them).

BTW my roommate has an XBox and i have a PS2, a GC, and a Dreamcast and the XBox gets like no play time unless we wanna play DOA3. Hell the Dreamcast gets much more play than the XBox. I will be getting Soul Calibur 2 for the GC because the side by side screen shots show that the GC and XBox versions have the same exact good graphics.

Mad_Gecko · 07-30-2003, 12:34 PM

Heh, The Xbox is a networked Game machine and a HES (Home Entertainment System) in one. You do have to MOD it though, and that voids the warranty, like MS were ever gonna honour that

.

Once you get XBconnect and Halo, you will play no other FPS online game, yes I said ONLINE!!! XBConnect will let you "link" over the web!

Xbox has more bang for the $, it costs the same now as a GeForce3 did when it came out. PS3 is so far away SONY are introducing a PS2.5 - WTF?? Its got all the networking capabilities of a PC without the hassle of upgrades. For 150$ you have a WAN capable games machine that ALL titles available will play on without the worry of hardware upgrades (my biggest gripe with PC's).

PS: Just got Yager, and it rocks on the same league as Starlancer. If I only have two or three games that I play regularly online until Halo 2 comes out I will have saved $ over a PC.

chwmeinthg · 07-30-2003, 01:35 PM

dreamcast was a great system that died early due to the ease of piracy for the system. i would say i play it the most out of every system because it has the fighting games worth playing...3rd strike, CvS2, and it has the best version of MvC2...the xbox one is trash because of the shitty fighting game controller and the ps2's version has a lower sound quality...and also...panzer dragoon orta is not an rpg, its a rail shooter

sadatx · 07-30-2003, 04:25 PM

when the PS2 came out it didn't have shit for games, so the Xbox will get a wider selection eventualy.

I think Xbox is the better console. But the PS2 does have a wider and better selection of games at the moment.

YaWhateva · 07-30-2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chwmeinthg
panzer dragoon orta is not an rpg, its a rail shooter

ok ya i had heard somewhere that it was an rpg but had never played it or really seen much of it.

Oh and to sadatx, the XBox has been out for a very long time and still has shit for games. But if i was gonna buy a console for sheer power, i would definitely get an XBox, no questioning that. But i dont want a super-powerful paper weight that will never get any play time, i want something that will let me play lots of fun video games. Thats the PS2.

t3m3st · 07-30-2003, 07:33 PM

PS2.5? Thats a good one.. lol

PS2 network adaptor is stupid. USB ethernet card works just the same, and my ISP gave me that for free.

sadatx · 07-30-2003, 10:46 PM

to YaWhateva:

Yeah I agree the Xbox has been out for a while, but I remember thinking the same thing about the PS2 "Man is this ever gonna get decent games?" Then the flood hit.

But, you're right, it has been a while....

YaWhateva · 07-30-2003, 10:50 PM

I actually would really like for the XBox to get good games and have lots and lots of companies start making games for it, like Square/Enix, just because there is so much potential for the XBox to be great but right now i dont see it. It sickens me that i just said that I want the XBox to do good because I hate M$. Right now, I see the XBox as being a console you have for parties and not much else.

*edit for stupid spelling.

F2.8 · 07-31-2003, 12:03 AM

I'd like to see the xbox get some RPG's. Clearly the hardware is superior, but it doesn't take masive horsepower to run an RPG. Ninja Gaiden, is the next game that will be welcome in my library.

I love the Xbox, because I have it networked to my computer. I'm running evoX and learning how they run the OS. It's interesting. Modding is fun... my xbox has a 120GB HD now, which allows me to store whole games on the HD for easy access.

A few friends are also making models and skins for games. It's like the good old days when I was PC gaming in college.

chwmeinthg · 07-31-2003, 02:06 AM

i highly doubt square enix bringing out any games for xbox period. the japanese market and many developers hate xbox. xbox hasnt been around that long either...about a year and a half...ps2's collection looked about the same around this time...now gc...that came out just shortly after xbox...look at that collection...nintendos got a lot to make up for the n64...and gameboy advance is doing just that...haha

twister002 · 07-31-2003, 09:49 AM

I'm kind of surprised that more of the Square games haven't been released on the Gamecube.

Mill · 07-31-2003, 11:20 AM

I thought my Xbox was better untill it broke. At least I can still watch DVD's. There was a time after last Christmas where nothing good came out for the Xbox.

I still like the controller and the Xbox versions of the games better.

YaWhateva · 07-31-2003, 11:41 AM

A Final Fantasy game is scheduled to come out for the Gamecube, and i know that the Japanese market would never like having Square go to the XBox and for that reason it wont. I was just saying. I am very content right now with Square making games for the consoles i own, if they started making games for the XBox i would have to buy one.

wlcm · 07-31-2003, 11:59 AM

I think Squaresoft alone makes PS2 worth the buy. Also i orginally bought a PS2 just to play tekken tag tournament, and now tekken 4.

marz · 08-02-2003, 05:38 AM

A year ago i would have said PS2, but now i would have to say an X Box is the way to go. I have both, and i would much rather play X box games rather than ps2. But i do enjoy some ps2 games.... And also X box live is way better than ps2 online, and the upcoming games for x box looks awesome. But it really comes down to what games you prefer.

CaptainFluffer · 08-02-2003, 09:18 AM

Even though I DO love the gamecube...

I don't think that one console is better than the other just as long as you take a look at what each one has to offer and you decide that it's the console that you choose. I have all 3. I play the Xbox most because of Marvel vs. Japcom 2 and Rallisport Challenge (with Initial D songs ripped to the hard drive). I love PS2 cause it has good driving games and the best RPGs. I love gamecube becaue of the games Nintendo makes.

tweekman · 08-02-2003, 03:01 PM

I own both of them but i play my xbox more, I really only use my ps2 for playing dvds. Which one is better? well one really isnt better than the other its really just a personal opinion.

Mad_Gecko · 08-02-2003, 03:56 PM

PS2.5 = LINK!!

Methinks Xbox will already do this with a small tweak here and there

.

Xbox is the gamers machine for people who dont want a PC.

1. WAN games are fucking awesome and on par with PC (not the same scope, granted). But most genre's are catered for - FPS, Role Play, Racing, and covered pretty well with graphics that are only a year out of date (Sorry PS2 graphics are shite now). Full speech transmission is cool (though I hate that "feature" that can change how you sound, I really don't like killing things that sound 8yrs old).
2. They have the best FPS game on the market to date (wait for Vectorman), in HALO.
3. The "real" racing games (xcept for F1 2003) are solid (MotoGP2 and Colin's Rally Game).
4. I do not need to reconfigure my hardware to have a LAN party!

I have a few more but I just realised I'm defending Satan's (MR. BG) product, ack!

Mad_Gecko · 08-02-2003, 03:59 PM

PS: Tweekman, I have found some DVD's (specially imports or dodgy "bought off some geezer") skip on the PS2. I haven't tried the Xbox yet, but I heard it was sound as long as it wasn't a first gen model!

CaptainFluffer · 08-03-2003, 06:16 AM

I have both and the xbox is a lot more DVD friendly.

But as far as driving games goes, Gran Turismo is still the best and I've played almost all of them...

JBX · 08-03-2003, 06:25 AM

I just can't game well on consoles. Luv the PC for gaming. I usually play FPS and IMHO the mouse/keyboard is a natural. When new technology comes out you don't put the old PC in the closet and use the new, you upgrade something and still use the rest. On the other hand a new high end video card costs as much as a gaming console. Do'h

XenuHubbard · 08-03-2003, 08:28 AM

Just bought an X-box today.

If I didn't live in Taiwan, I would have bought a PS2, but since my Chinese reading skills are pretty much non-existant, the X-box became my choice. On the PS2 I'd be proud managing to get through the menu. With the X-box, I get sweet, sweet English.

striderkevin · 08-03-2003, 12:30 PM

Microsoft just releases games for the XBox that Playstation already has, or similar games that suck. The XBox controller sucks ass as well.

Stare At The Sun · 08-03-2003, 01:40 PM

^ Playstation doesnt have Halo, mechassult, panzer dragoon orta, knights of the old republic, or a version of splinter cell that compares. Dead or alive 3, gunvalk and midnight club 2 are all games that look amazing on xbox...

Also, who has seen the previews for Fable? This game looks absolutly amazing. http://www.xbox.com/fable/default.ht...talog=cat%2dus

Just my .02, but i have a ps2, and i havent picked up the controller in months, the games just are not there for me anymore, xbox just has a lot better games, and seems like it will continue to be that way. Soul cal 2 comes out mighty soon, and xbox has spawn

docbungle · 08-03-2003, 02:01 PM

From http://maddox.xmission.com/xbox_suckit.html

Some reasons the Xbox blows.
This is old but still pretty accurate imo.
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No Soul.
You'll never see games like Metal Slug, Radiant Silvergun or Castlevania come out for the Xbox because Microsoft hasn't made the system attractive to the Japanese market.

Capcom, Konami, SNK and a slew of other big game developers have turned their backs towards the Xbox except for a cursory presence with a half-hearted title port. There is light at the end of the tunnel, however. Sega is working on a Panzer Dragoon title as well as Toe Jam & Earl III. Regardless, the Xbox is still a PC at heart, right down to the hard drive and buggy software.

Piss-poor design.
The system is the brain child of Seamus Blackley, a 32-year-old red-haired jazz pianist and nuclear physicist. To quote him: "I was flying back from visiting [my girlfriend] and I had just got a new laptop and I was trying it out on the plane and I was thinking about graphics cards and I realized that we could make a machine that had much higher performance than anything else in the industry."

Yeah, it's called PC dumbass. Real revolutionary idea. Take existing hardware, throw it together in a big clunky box and call it a console. Everything about the system reeks of poor design.

Rather than getting a hand full of the most talented game developers in the world (here's a hint: YOU WON'T FIND THEM MAKING PC TITLES IN THE US ASSHOLE--GO TO JAPAN) and designing a system around the games from the ground up, Blackley comes along with an unlimited supply of stupid ideas about the gaming industry and designs a system that he himself admitted to being "little more than exposed cards with processors and graphics chips hooked to a monitor."

No shit? I couldn't tell from how HUGE the case is. It's almost as if it was thrown together with pieces bought off of a store shelf--oh wait. What more, once he senses the impending fizzle of the launch, he bails from the company to work someplace else--where he'll inevitably spawn more stupid ideas.

Shitty philosophy.
Blackley thought he had the formula for a great system because all the components were there for a great system (and they are): a powerful graphics chip, a beefy hard drive, a fast processor and DVD capabilities. What he failed to realize was that just because you have all the raw material to make a great system doesn't mean it's going to be great. Saying the Xbox is a good system because it's powerful is like saying you made a great painting because you used the best set of paints.

The Xbox is designed by people who think they know a joystick from their assholes. The problem is that they're mostly fat boring business men and not gamers. They're out to make a buck and it's painfully obvious in how poorly they're marketing the system (I think they've cornered the market on middle-aged men who buy one or two sports titles per year for their system).

The games suck.
It's been almost one full year since the launch of the Xbox and so far the only game that doesn't suck as much as everything else on the system is Halo. Everything else is either out on another console, mediocre or a boring PC port.

Even Halo doesn't cut it as far as I'm concerned. The first person shooter (FPS) genre is best done on PC, period (just because some genres have been represented best on PC doesn't mean I'm biased towards PC, if anything I'm biased towards consoles so quit emailing me). As good as Halo is, it's not even the best in its genre (an honor reserved for Half Life as far as I'm concerned).

The Xbox library of games is flooded with shit titles like "Azurik": games that seem more like projects for computer science majors in their senior year at college than professional products. I would rather be shot than have to play one more uninspired ho-hum platform title starring some stupid cat or some random guy that runs around bumping into other vague uninspired objects. Throw that shit away.

A lot of people email me asking which console I prefer. The console I prefer is the console with the most games that I want to play, and right now Gameboy Advance and PS2 have the most games that I want to play.

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Overstated and sarcastic, yes, but still a lot of valid points.

cj2112 · 08-03-2003, 02:50 PM

Ok I was looking at which console to buy just a couple months ago. True X-box has better graphics, and you can store music on the hard drive, and X-box live is good. GC was not considered mainly because Nintendo seems to have focused on younger gamers and I'm 34, I ended up purchasing a PS2 for the following reasons.

1. Game selection, let's face it PS2 has a tremendous amount of great games.

2. if I wanna play games online, I own a PC.

3. I play games to play them, not to sit there and oooooh and aaaah over the pretty graphics.

4. If I wanna listen to music, I own a stereo.

If I was gonna buy a second console, I would have a hard time choosing between the X-box and the NGC.

YaWhateva · 08-03-2003, 04:02 PM

Maddox rules.

liquid_dreams · 08-04-2003, 12:25 AM

i got a PS2 and i got reasons for it according to my logic here are them.

1. dont have to pay to play online (except for the expantion)
2. HUGE library of good games some bad but there
3. more good games and more releases then Xbox or GC
4. able to mod it
5. excellent controler set up

thats the reason i got mine

08-04-2003, 02:18 PM

game wise ps2 power wise xbox but to be honest i like the xbox more and i dont really know why its a pretty neat system its a shame it doesnt have many good exclusive games

IckUber · 08-11-2003, 02:31 AM

ps2 owns.

dragonhawk · 08-12-2003, 11:47 AM

PS2. Hugh library of $20 games help too (Greatest Hits)
Jak and Daxter, GTA III, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil
LightGun Games! and I can play all of my PS1 games too.

I would like KOTOR, and Mechassult, but I have a PC for that...

H12 · 08-12-2003, 07:12 PM

Gonna represent for the X-Box here; PlayStation 2, to me, is my least favorite out of all the next-gen systems. To top it off, I rank the Nintendo 64 over it too, and equal to or less than the Sega Dreamcast. I'm probably gonna be blamed for being anti-Sony or something along those lines, but I don't hate the PlayStation 2 or nothing like that. It has some good games...just not any games good enough for me to buy the system for, or a series that will make it worth my wait when a sequel comes out. On the plus-side though, there's lots of games I've rented for the PS2 that I've enjoyed. I would rather get the Halo series and the Rare products that will soon come than many of the games for the PS2, however.

Pedialyte · 08-12-2003, 07:20 PM

Personally i think the problem with the XBOX is that it has a very small game library and many of them (most of the good ones) are also released on PC. Why buy a crapped down version for the XBOX when you can get it for PC?

NeverBorn · 08-12-2003, 07:26 PM

See my post on fanboys..

Bootsie · 08-12-2003, 08:47 PM

PS2 = better games, free online, don't have to pay for DVD access

YaWhateva · 08-13-2003, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NeverBorn
See my post on fanboys..

dont care.

CyCo PL · 08-13-2003, 04:42 AM

I have a PC, so I really see no point to getting an Xbox.

Splinter Cell - on PC

Knights of the Old Republic - Coming to PC

Halo - Coming to PC

These games are probably the top three best games out on Xbox so far, and they're not even exclusives.

mute76 · 08-13-2003, 08:51 AM

PS* will be king for a long while. Christ, they still make games for the PS1 and that thing is like 7 years old.

As for hardware, yes, the xbox is on top. But look who is making the thing. All it is is a mini computer. Though hardware is its best point, Microsoft doesn't know shit about games. All they can do is buy delevopment companies that are making good games. They wouldn't have their system seller Halo if they didn't buy Bungie. All the money in the world and best hardware doesn't produce good games. There is a reason Rockstar puts Grand Theft Auto on PS2 before any other system.

And another thing, all this "Halo is the best game ever! 4 player multiplayer is teh best!" What shit. If you enjoy playing FPS muliplayer games, get a computer people. A mouse, keyboard and 19" monitor beats that hunky controller and 4 split screen windows ANY day

07-30-2003, 12:34 PM	#44 (permalink)
Mad_Gecko Pro Libertate Location: City Gecko	Heh, The Xbox is a networked Game machine and a HES (Home Entertainment System) in one. You do have to MOD it though, and that voids the warranty, like MS were ever gonna honour that . Once you get XBconnect and Halo, you will play no other FPS online game, yes I said ONLINE!!! XBConnect will let you "link" over the web! Xbox has more bang for the $, it costs the same now as a GeForce3 did when it came out. PS3 is so far away SONY are introducing a PS2.5 - WTF?? Its got all the networking capabilities of a PC without the hassle of upgrades. For 150$ you have a WAN capable games machine that ALL titles available will play on without the worry of hardware upgrades (my biggest gripe with PC's). PS: Just got Yager, and it rocks on the same league as Starlancer. If I only have two or three games that I play regularly online until Halo 2 comes out I will have saved $ over a PC. __________________ [color=bright blue]W[/color]e Stick To Glass "If three of us travel together, I shall find two teachers." Confucious

07-30-2003, 07:33 PM	#48 (permalink)
t3m3st Vroom! Location: Toronto	PS2.5? Thats a good one.. lol PS2 network adaptor is stupid. USB ethernet card works just the same, and my ISP gave me that for free. __________________ I do it for the rare drops

07-30-2003, 10:50 PM	#50 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	I actually would really like for the XBox to get good games and have lots and lots of companies start making games for it, like Square/Enix, just because there is so much potential for the XBox to be great but right now i dont see it. It sickens me that i just said that I want the XBox to do good because I hate M$. Right now, I see the XBox as being a console you have for parties and not much else. *edit for stupid spelling. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

07-31-2003, 11:41 AM	#55 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	A Final Fantasy game is scheduled to come out for the Gamecube, and i know that the Japanese market would never like having Square go to the XBox and for that reason it wont. I was just saying. I am very content right now with Square making games for the consoles i own, if they started making games for the XBox i would have to buy one. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

08-02-2003, 03:56 PM	#60 (permalink)
Mad_Gecko Pro Libertate Location: City Gecko	PS2.5 = LINK!! Methinks Xbox will already do this with a small tweak here and there . Xbox is the gamers machine for people who dont want a PC. 1. WAN games are fucking awesome and on par with PC (not the same scope, granted). But most genre's are catered for - FPS, Role Play, Racing, and covered pretty well with graphics that are only a year out of date (Sorry PS2 graphics are shite now). Full speech transmission is cool (though I hate that "feature" that can change how you sound, I really don't like killing things that sound 8yrs old). 2. They have the best FPS game on the market to date (wait for Vectorman), in HALO. 3. The "real" racing games (xcept for F1 2003) are solid (MotoGP2 and Colin's Rally Game). 4. I do not need to reconfigure my hardware to have a LAN party! I have a few more but I just realised I'm defending Satan's (MR. BG) product, ack! __________________ [color=bright blue]W[/color]e Stick To Glass "If three of us travel together, I shall find two teachers." Confucious

07-30-2003, 03:36 AM	#41 (permalink)
chwmeinthg Upright	the solution to this thread is....buy them all. honestly...i think bringing console games to pc takes the soul out of the game. games like halo were landmarks for the console world...but for pc...its just another game. also...gta is not that great...in my opinion.

07-30-2003, 07:41 AM	#42 (permalink)
CaptainFluffer Banned Location: Pussy awp camping	After owning both. I'm still not sure. The only reason I play Xbox more is because of Marvel Vs. Capcom2 and Rallisport Challenge. PS2 still has the advantage RPG-wise. But I'll forever love the PC more. If it didn't have any PS2 or Xbox games, it'd still be the best gaming machine. As far as GTA, it's fun, but I'd rather watch my friends play. That's more for fun than me playing.

07-30-2003, 01:35 PM	#45 (permalink)
chwmeinthg Upright	dreamcast was a great system that died early due to the ease of piracy for the system. i would say i play it the most out of every system because it has the fighting games worth playing...3rd strike, CvS2, and it has the best version of MvC2...the xbox one is trash because of the shitty fighting game controller and the ps2's version has a lower sound quality...and also...panzer dragoon orta is not an rpg, its a rail shooter

07-30-2003, 04:25 PM	#46 (permalink)
sadatx Psycho	when the PS2 came out it didn't have shit for games, so the Xbox will get a wider selection eventualy. I think Xbox is the better console. But the PS2 does have a wider and better selection of games at the moment.

07-30-2003, 10:46 PM	#49 (permalink)
sadatx Psycho	to YaWhateva: Yeah I agree the Xbox has been out for a while, but I remember thinking the same thing about the PS2 "Man is this ever gonna get decent games?" Then the flood hit. But, you're right, it has been a while....

07-31-2003, 12:03 AM	#51 (permalink)
F2.8 Upright	I'd like to see the xbox get some RPG's. Clearly the hardware is superior, but it doesn't take masive horsepower to run an RPG. Ninja Gaiden, is the next game that will be welcome in my library. I love the Xbox, because I have it networked to my computer. I'm running evoX and learning how they run the OS. It's interesting. Modding is fun... my xbox has a 120GB HD now, which allows me to store whole games on the HD for easy access. A few friends are also making models and skins for games. It's like the good old days when I was PC gaming in college.

07-31-2003, 02:06 AM	#52 (permalink)
chwmeinthg Upright	i highly doubt square enix bringing out any games for xbox period. the japanese market and many developers hate xbox. xbox hasnt been around that long either...about a year and a half...ps2's collection looked about the same around this time...now gc...that came out just shortly after xbox...look at that collection...nintendos got a lot to make up for the n64...and gameboy advance is doing just that...haha

07-31-2003, 09:49 AM	#53 (permalink)
twister002 Crazy	I'm kind of surprised that more of the Square games haven't been released on the Gamecube.

07-31-2003, 11:20 AM	#54 (permalink)
Mill Psycho Location: Center of the Universe	I thought my Xbox was better untill it broke. At least I can still watch DVD's. There was a time after last Christmas where nothing good came out for the Xbox. I still like the controller and the Xbox versions of the games better.

07-31-2003, 11:59 AM	#56 (permalink)
wlcm Tilted Location: Austin, TX	I think Squaresoft alone makes PS2 worth the buy. Also i orginally bought a PS2 just to play tekken tag tournament, and now tekken 4.

08-02-2003, 05:38 AM	#57 (permalink)
marz Tilted	A year ago i would have said PS2, but now i would have to say an X Box is the way to go. I have both, and i would much rather play X box games rather than ps2. But i do enjoy some ps2 games.... And also X box live is way better than ps2 online, and the upcoming games for x box looks awesome. But it really comes down to what games you prefer.

08-02-2003, 09:18 AM	#58 (permalink)
CaptainFluffer Banned Location: Pussy awp camping	Even though I DO love the gamecube... I don't think that one console is better than the other just as long as you take a look at what each one has to offer and you decide that it's the console that you choose. I have all 3. I play the Xbox most because of Marvel vs. Japcom 2 and Rallisport Challenge (with Initial D songs ripped to the hard drive). I love PS2 cause it has good driving games and the best RPGs. I love gamecube becaue of the games Nintendo makes.

08-02-2003, 03:01 PM	#59 (permalink)
tweekman Banned	I own both of them but i play my xbox more, I really only use my ps2 for playing dvds. Which one is better? well one really isnt better than the other its really just a personal opinion.

08-02-2003, 03:59 PM	#61 (permalink)
Mad_Gecko Pro Libertate Location: City Gecko	PS: Tweekman, I have found some DVD's (specially imports or dodgy "bought off some geezer") skip on the PS2. I haven't tried the Xbox yet, but I heard it was sound as long as it wasn't a first gen model! __________________ [color=bright blue]W[/color]e Stick To Glass "If three of us travel together, I shall find two teachers." Confucious

08-03-2003, 06:16 AM	#62 (permalink)
CaptainFluffer Banned Location: Pussy awp camping	I have both and the xbox is a lot more DVD friendly. But as far as driving games goes, Gran Turismo is still the best and I've played almost all of them...

08-03-2003, 06:25 AM	#63 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	I just can't game well on consoles. Luv the PC for gaming. I usually play FPS and IMHO the mouse/keyboard is a natural. When new technology comes out you don't put the old PC in the closet and use the new, you upgrade something and still use the rest. On the other hand a new high end video card costs as much as a gaming console. Do'h __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

08-03-2003, 08:28 AM	#64 (permalink)
XenuHubbard Cute and Cuddly Location: Teegeeack.	Just bought an X-box today. If I didn't live in Taiwan, I would have bought a PS2, but since my Chinese reading skills are pretty much non-existant, the X-box became my choice. On the PS2 I'd be proud managing to get through the menu. With the X-box, I get sweet, sweet English. __________________ The above was written by a true prophet. Trust me. "What doesn't kill you, makes you bitter and paranoid". - SB2000

08-03-2003, 12:30 PM	#65 (permalink)
striderkevin Crazy Location: Can't tell you, then I'd have to kill you.	Microsoft just releases games for the XBox that Playstation already has, or similar games that suck. The XBox controller sucks ass as well. __________________ "A false life is equal to death. Be your true self" -Strider Hiryu

08-03-2003, 01:40 PM	#66 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	^ Playstation doesnt have Halo, mechassult, panzer dragoon orta, knights of the old republic, or a version of splinter cell that compares. Dead or alive 3, gunvalk and midnight club 2 are all games that look amazing on xbox... Also, who has seen the previews for Fable? This game looks absolutly amazing. http://www.xbox.com/fable/default.ht...talog=cat%2dus Just my .02, but i have a ps2, and i havent picked up the controller in months, the games just are not there for me anymore, xbox just has a lot better games, and seems like it will continue to be that way. Soul cal 2 comes out mighty soon, and xbox has spawn

08-03-2003, 02:01 PM	#67 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	From http://maddox.xmission.com/xbox_suckit.html Some reasons the Xbox blows. This is old but still pretty accurate imo. __________________________________________________ No Soul. You'll never see games like Metal Slug, Radiant Silvergun or Castlevania come out for the Xbox because Microsoft hasn't made the system attractive to the Japanese market. Capcom, Konami, SNK and a slew of other big game developers have turned their backs towards the Xbox except for a cursory presence with a half-hearted title port. There is light at the end of the tunnel, however. Sega is working on a Panzer Dragoon title as well as Toe Jam & Earl III. Regardless, the Xbox is still a PC at heart, right down to the hard drive and buggy software. Piss-poor design. The system is the brain child of Seamus Blackley, a 32-year-old red-haired jazz pianist and nuclear physicist. To quote him: "I was flying back from visiting [my girlfriend] and I had just got a new laptop and I was trying it out on the plane and I was thinking about graphics cards and I realized that we could make a machine that had much higher performance than anything else in the industry." Yeah, it's called PC dumbass. Real revolutionary idea. Take existing hardware, throw it together in a big clunky box and call it a console. Everything about the system reeks of poor design. Rather than getting a hand full of the most talented game developers in the world (here's a hint: YOU WON'T FIND THEM MAKING PC TITLES IN THE US ASSHOLE--GO TO JAPAN) and designing a system around the games from the ground up, Blackley comes along with an unlimited supply of stupid ideas about the gaming industry and designs a system that he himself admitted to being "little more than exposed cards with processors and graphics chips hooked to a monitor." No shit? I couldn't tell from how HUGE the case is. It's almost as if it was thrown together with pieces bought off of a store shelf--oh wait. What more, once he senses the impending fizzle of the launch, he bails from the company to work someplace else--where he'll inevitably spawn more stupid ideas. Shitty philosophy. Blackley thought he had the formula for a great system because all the components were there for a great system (and they are): a powerful graphics chip, a beefy hard drive, a fast processor and DVD capabilities. What he failed to realize was that just because you have all the raw material to make a great system doesn't mean it's going to be great. Saying the Xbox is a good system because it's powerful is like saying you made a great painting because you used the best set of paints. The Xbox is designed by people who think they know a joystick from their assholes. The problem is that they're mostly fat boring business men and not gamers. They're out to make a buck and it's painfully obvious in how poorly they're marketing the system (I think they've cornered the market on middle-aged men who buy one or two sports titles per year for their system). The games suck. It's been almost one full year since the launch of the Xbox and so far the only game that doesn't suck as much as everything else on the system is Halo. Everything else is either out on another console, mediocre or a boring PC port. Even Halo doesn't cut it as far as I'm concerned. The first person shooter (FPS) genre is best done on PC, period (just because some genres have been represented best on PC doesn't mean I'm biased towards PC, if anything I'm biased towards consoles so quit emailing me). As good as Halo is, it's not even the best in its genre (an honor reserved for Half Life as far as I'm concerned). The Xbox library of games is flooded with shit titles like "Azurik": games that seem more like projects for computer science majors in their senior year at college than professional products. I would rather be shot than have to play one more uninspired ho-hum platform title starring some stupid cat or some random guy that runs around bumping into other vague uninspired objects. Throw that shit away. A lot of people email me asking which console I prefer. The console I prefer is the console with the most games that I want to play, and right now Gameboy Advance and PS2 have the most games that I want to play. _______________________________________________ Overstated and sarcastic, yes, but still a lot of valid points. __________________ Bad Luck City

08-03-2003, 02:50 PM	#68 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	Ok I was looking at which console to buy just a couple months ago. True X-box has better graphics, and you can store music on the hard drive, and X-box live is good. GC was not considered mainly because Nintendo seems to have focused on younger gamers and I'm 34, I ended up purchasing a PS2 for the following reasons. 1. Game selection, let's face it PS2 has a tremendous amount of great games. 2. if I wanna play games online, I own a PC. 3. I play games to play them, not to sit there and oooooh and aaaah over the pretty graphics. 4. If I wanna listen to music, I own a stereo. If I was gonna buy a second console, I would have a hard time choosing between the X-box and the NGC.

08-03-2003, 04:02 PM	#69 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	Maddox rules. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

08-04-2003, 12:25 AM	#70 (permalink)
liquid_dreams Banned Location: ketchikan	i got a PS2 and i got reasons for it according to my logic here are them. 1. dont have to pay to play online (except for the expantion) 2. HUGE library of good games some bad but there 3. more good games and more releases then Xbox or GC 4. able to mod it 5. excellent controler set up thats the reason i got mine

08-04-2003, 02:18 PM	#71 (permalink)
jdkash Guest	game wise ps2 power wise xbox but to be honest i like the xbox more and i dont really know why its a pretty neat system its a shame it doesnt have many good exclusive games

08-11-2003, 02:31 AM	#72 (permalink)
IckUber Funran Location: Norman, OK	ps2 owns. __________________ How much is y'all Piolkles?

08-12-2003, 11:47 AM	#73 (permalink)
dragonhawk Psycho Location: In Games.	PS2. Hugh library of $20 games help too (Greatest Hits) Jak and Daxter, GTA III, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil LightGun Games! and I can play all of my PS1 games too. I would like KOTOR, and Mechassult, but I have a PC for that... __________________ ---------------------------------------------- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

08-12-2003, 07:12 PM	#74 (permalink)
H12 I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning! Location: K-Town, TN	Gonna represent for the X-Box here; PlayStation 2, to me, is my least favorite out of all the next-gen systems. To top it off, I rank the Nintendo 64 over it too, and equal to or less than the Sega Dreamcast. I'm probably gonna be blamed for being anti-Sony or something along those lines, but I don't hate the PlayStation 2 or nothing like that. It has some good games...just not any games good enough for me to buy the system for, or a series that will make it worth my wait when a sequel comes out. On the plus-side though, there's lots of games I've rented for the PS2 that I've enjoyed. I would rather get the Halo series and the Rare products that will soon come than many of the games for the PS2, however. __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit." --Aristotle

08-12-2003, 07:20 PM	#75 (permalink)
Pedialyte Crazy Location: Minneapolis	Personally i think the problem with the XBOX is that it has a very small game library and many of them (most of the good ones) are also released on PC. Why buy a crapped down version for the XBOX when you can get it for PC?

08-12-2003, 07:26 PM	#76 (permalink)
NeverBorn I'm a pepper bitch..	See my post on fanboys..

08-12-2003, 08:47 PM	#77 (permalink)
Bootsie Upright	PS2 = better games, free online, don't have to pay for DVD access