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Shauk · 11-24-2010, 02:08 PM

saw this on Kotaku and it was clear that it's becoming harder and harder to tell these days.

GT6 will probably break my freaking mind.

So, anyone get this yet? reviews are still coming it but it's mostly positive. I'm gonna grab my copy in a few hours, working on some music for tonight, gotta take care of that 1st.

hint: the bigger images are from GT5

Jetée · 11-24-2010, 02:38 PM

It depends on your definition of real, really. It also may depend upon whether you might actually want us to venture into this guessing game, but I do get the point.

Graphics = mind-blowing (for some of us).

I love the Gran Turismo franchise, but as of this writing, I'm still on only 98% completetion on GT3, so I still have work to do there, and my more than 3-year-old copy of GT4, which is inoperable due to some scratching, has not yet been replaced. (My PS2 might also have been stolen within the past two years, but I haven't really bothered to check if that's really the case.)

Back to the graphics debate for a minute: Graphics to me, however, are not the be-all-end-all in gaming. I'm not trying to beat down another way, but some just promote the 'realism' in handful of games and the consoles which employ them, and expect that's an instant sell / winning point. I much prefer the whole gaming experience, and above all, sustainable 'replayability' (being able to continually play the game for hours on end without depreciation or lackluster enthusiasm) ; and for what it's worth, I prefer an actually enjoyable game.

That aside, Shauk: did you manage to get ahold of the GT5 demo? I know it's probably two or more yeears old now, but I'm sure it gives the basic 'feel' for what you are expecting to receive in this latest installment.

(Oh, and to half-answer your question: none of the above cars are "real", as either half are either computer-generated graphics, or concept cars. On the other hand, they are all still real, being that if you were to point one out, the next person could logically follow which one you meant, ergo: it exists.)

Shauk · 11-24-2010, 04:26 PM

Yeah I played the demo but it wasn't even close in what I expected, no customization options, one car, one track. That's not a game, that's not even a good demo. They said they're releasing a real demo on the 17th though so. We'll see.

As for realism/graphics. It's not the end all be all in typical games, but if you declare yourself to be "the" driving simulator. I better feel as close as I can with as many senses as possible. I'm looking forward to trying it out with force feedback steering and head tracking on ye old 46"

Jetée · 11-24-2010, 04:33 PM

I'm looking forward to the soundtrack moreso than the actual game, being that I know what to expect from the GT franchise, and, on the whole, I find it to be entertaining and nearly on another level in comparison to its competitors. Over th past few installations of the game, though, I find it to have the "perfect" accompanying BGM to amp one up.

I'm not sure if I dreamt about this, (5% of my dreams turn out to be prophetic, believe it or not) or if I just glimpsed a runaway trailer for the game, then promptly forgot about it, but I was impressed either way by what I saw. I'm going to try to track down a "real" trailer / commercial for GT5, so I'm not just touting something I might have just made up.

Shauk · 11-25-2010, 05:44 PM

Well you can (and there is a trophy for it, strangely) make your own soundtrack from mp3's on your ps3.

Gabbyness · 11-25-2010, 09:55 PM

Yikes. This is lookin' pretty sick.

Jetée · 11-27-2010, 01:36 AM

Critics: Gran Turismo 5 good, but not for everyone

Gran Turismo 5 - Six years in the making, the latest in Sony's genre-defining Gran Turismo series skid onto shelves Wednesday. It's been far from a smooth road, though, as the game was originally scheduled to be released in March, but repeated delays left some fearing it would miss 2010 altogether. Those fears proved unfounded, but have the delays given Sony's Polyphony Digital time to deliver fans the polished experience they wanted? click to show

Yes, says Destructoid's Dale North. Scoring it a perfect 10, he lavishes praise on its size ("massive"), its driving feel ("both accurate and exciting at the same time"), and its visuals ("one of the most visually pleasing games ever released"). Its damage modeling, a new addition for this instalment, comes in for less praise. It "isn't really notable," he says, being neither as realistic nor as dramatic as you might be expecting.

In contrast, IGN.com serves up a comparatively muted 8.5/10. While writer Martin Robinson is full of praise for the game's gearhead simulator tech, he's not so pleased with the overall package. It's "a 10/10 simulator wrapped up in a 5/10 game, he says, adding that "...its brilliance on the track is matched by its sloppiness off of it, and there's a lack of polish that would at one time have seemed sacrilegious to the series." Robinson names the bloated front-end, poor collisions, and gutless engine sounds among his concerns.

"Ultimately its driving wins out to ensure that it's still a great game," he concludes, "but it leaves that nagging doubt: this could have been a masterpiece were it not for the fact that Polyphony was so absorbed with the detail that it took its eye off the ball."

Joystiq, too, seems a little underwhelmed. Gran Turismo 5 is a game "that's been driven down a very narrow path to end up something only a subset of gamers will truly enjoy," according to writer Randy Nelson. Although it's "great at what it does...for the true car lovers of the world...this is the new paradigm," he clearly feels it's a limited-appeal title.

"If you're not [a car nut]," he says, "GT5 is like walking in on a group of physicists discussing string theory and asking who wants to go toss around a ball for a bit. You're looking to have fun; they're only interested in studying the math behind how it bounces."

Currently, Gran Turismo 5 is scoring an aggregate mark of 86% on metacritic.com, although that'll likely change as the week wears on. So far, though, the verdict's pretty clear: if you're a gearhead, this could be your dream game -- but if you're looking for a more casual racer, you may want to steer clear.

[yahoo!]

Shauk · 11-27-2010, 06:02 PM

IGN also gave MW2 a 10 or something retarded like that, while calling Bad Company 2 an inferior game. IGN is a horrible source for reviews.

anyways, I don't know dick about cars but I love this game haha. I just like racing and all the different racing modes, cart racing, tuner racing, night, snow, rain, nascar style, it's all in there.

boink · 12-01-2010, 12:44 AM

I got it Friday and played it about 7PM to 4AM. thumb sore, GT5 good.
there are nit pics on some of the graphics, but noting that bothers me...
the only thing I don't like, and it bugs me alot ! is you can only buy aftermarket rims for the 200 or so "premium cars"...that leaves a TON of cars your stuck running the boring stock rims on.

it's stupid too cause usually the first thing you do with a cheap shit box is put on a set of rims worth twice the value of the whole car !

seriously, that's the first thing I've done with all the cars I have in any GT game, buy cool rims !

I got a white 76 golf just like the 77 rabbit I had in college (aside from the rims) it's fun to drive. been a little while since I've played GT but I'm doing well enough to have fun with it. the rainy track was pretty cool I haven't found the Seattle track....

hopefully, the wheels issue will be changed in a patch.
it's cool you can add your PSP garage to the arcade mode, and set your mp3 collection BGM, for the replays too (play lists edited in the game)

11-24-2010, 02:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	Which cars are real and which are GT5? saw this on Kotaku and it was clear that it's becoming harder and harder to tell these days. GT6 will probably break my freaking mind. So, anyone get this yet? reviews are still coming it but it's mostly positive. I'm gonna grab my copy in a few hours, working on some music for tonight, gotta take care of that 1st. hint: the bigger images are from GT5

11-24-2010, 02:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	It depends on your definition of real, really. It also may depend upon whether you might actually want us to venture into this guessing game, but I do get the point. Graphics = mind-blowing (for some of us). I love the Gran Turismo franchise, but as of this writing, I'm still on only 98% completetion on GT3, so I still have work to do there, and my more than 3-year-old copy of GT4, which is inoperable due to some scratching, has not yet been replaced. (My PS2 might also have been stolen within the past two years, but I haven't really bothered to check if that's really the case.) Back to the graphics debate for a minute: Graphics to me, however, are not the be-all-end-all in gaming. I'm not trying to beat down another way, but some just promote the 'realism' in handful of games and the consoles which employ them, and expect that's an instant sell / winning point. I much prefer the whole gaming experience, and above all, sustainable 'replayability' (being able to continually play the game for hours on end without depreciation or lackluster enthusiasm) ; and for what it's worth, I prefer an actually enjoyable game. That aside, Shauk: did you manage to get ahold of the GT5 demo? I know it's probably two or more yeears old now, but I'm sure it gives the basic 'feel' for what you are expecting to receive in this latest installment. (Oh, and to half-answer your question: none of the above cars are "real", as either half are either computer-generated graphics, or concept cars. On the other hand, they are all still real, being that if you were to point one out, the next person could logically follow which one you meant, ergo: it exists.) __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi

11-24-2010, 04:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	I'm looking forward to the soundtrack moreso than the actual game, being that I know what to expect from the GT franchise, and, on the whole, I find it to be entertaining and nearly on another level in comparison to its competitors. Over th past few installations of the game, though, I find it to have the "perfect" accompanying BGM to amp one up. I'm not sure if I dreamt about this, (5% of my dreams turn out to be prophetic, believe it or not) or if I just glimpsed a runaway trailer for the game, then promptly forgot about it, but I was impressed either way by what I saw. I'm going to try to track down a "real" trailer / commercial for GT5, so I'm not just touting something I might have just made up. __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi

11-25-2010, 09:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gabbyness Chicken scratch. Location: Japan!!!	Yikes. This is lookin' pretty sick. __________________ One, two, three, four, fiiiiiiiifth.

11-27-2010, 01:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	just came across this initial review, take it for whatever you believe to be relevant Critics: Gran Turismo 5 good, but not for everyone Gran Turismo 5 - Six years in the making, the latest in Sony's genre-defining Gran Turismo series skid onto shelves Wednesday. It's been far from a smooth road, though, as the game was originally scheduled to be released in March, but repeated delays left some fearing it would miss 2010 altogether. Those fears proved unfounded, but have the delays given Sony's Polyphony Digital time to deliver fans the polished experience they wanted? click to show Yes, says Destructoid's Dale North. Scoring it a perfect 10, he lavishes praise on its size ("massive"), its driving feel ("both accurate and exciting at the same time"), and its visuals ("one of the most visually pleasing games ever released"). Its damage modeling, a new addition for this instalment, comes in for less praise. It "isn't really notable," he says, being neither as realistic nor as dramatic as you might be expecting. In contrast, IGN.com serves up a comparatively muted 8.5/10. While writer Martin Robinson is full of praise for the game's gearhead simulator tech, he's not so pleased with the overall package. It's "a 10/10 simulator wrapped up in a 5/10 game, he says, adding that "...its brilliance on the track is matched by its sloppiness off of it, and there's a lack of polish that would at one time have seemed sacrilegious to the series." Robinson names the bloated front-end, poor collisions, and gutless engine sounds among his concerns. "Ultimately its driving wins out to ensure that it's still a great game," he concludes, "but it leaves that nagging doubt: this could have been a masterpiece were it not for the fact that Polyphony was so absorbed with the detail that it took its eye off the ball." Joystiq, too, seems a little underwhelmed. Gran Turismo 5 is a game "that's been driven down a very narrow path to end up something only a subset of gamers will truly enjoy," according to writer Randy Nelson. Although it's "great at what it does...for the true car lovers of the world...this is the new paradigm," he clearly feels it's a limited-appeal title. "If you're not [a car nut]," he says, "GT5 is like walking in on a group of physicists discussing string theory and asking who wants to go toss around a ball for a bit. You're looking to have fun; they're only interested in studying the math behind how it bounces." Currently, Gran Turismo 5 is scoring an aggregate mark of 86% on metacritic.com, although that'll likely change as the week wears on. So far, though, the verdict's pretty clear: if you're a gearhead, this could be your dream game -- but if you're looking for a more casual racer, you may want to steer clear. [yahoo!] __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi

11-24-2010, 04:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	Yeah I played the demo but it wasn't even close in what I expected, no customization options, one car, one track. That's not a game, that's not even a good demo. They said they're releasing a real demo on the 17th though so. We'll see. As for realism/graphics. It's not the end all be all in typical games, but if you declare yourself to be "the" driving simulator. I better feel as close as I can with as many senses as possible. I'm looking forward to trying it out with force feedback steering and head tracking on ye old 46"

11-25-2010, 05:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	Well you can (and there is a trophy for it, strangely) make your own soundtrack from mp3's on your ps3.

11-27-2010, 06:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	IGN also gave MW2 a 10 or something retarded like that, while calling Bad Company 2 an inferior game. IGN is a horrible source for reviews. anyways, I don't know dick about cars but I love this game haha. I just like racing and all the different racing modes, cart racing, tuner racing, night, snow, rain, nascar style, it's all in there.

12-01-2010, 12:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
boink Addict Location: Seattle	I got it Friday and played it about 7PM to 4AM. thumb sore, GT5 good. there are nit pics on some of the graphics, but noting that bothers me... the only thing I don't like, and it bugs me alot ! is you can only buy aftermarket rims for the 200 or so "premium cars"...that leaves a TON of cars your stuck running the boring stock rims on. it's stupid too cause usually the first thing you do with a cheap shit box is put on a set of rims worth twice the value of the whole car ! seriously, that's the first thing I've done with all the cars I have in any GT game, buy cool rims ! I got a white 76 golf just like the 77 rabbit I had in college (aside from the rims) it's fun to drive. been a little while since I've played GT but I'm doing well enough to have fun with it. the rainy track was pretty cool I haven't found the Seattle track.... hopefully, the wheels issue will be changed in a patch. it's cool you can add your PSP garage to the arcade mode, and set your mp3 collection BGM, for the replays too (play lists edited in the game) __________________ when you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer. Superstition ain't the way. Last edited by boink; 12-01-2010 at 12:47 AM..