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Old 07-09-2007, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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fallout 3

i'm excited about fallout 3, coming sometime (hopefully) next year. the thing i'm a bit "concerned" about is it will be a first person game, although still an RPG. i like the top down view, and it will have a third person camera, but i doubt i'll use it. still, i'm pretty stoked for it. i hope it's as good as fallout and fallout 2.

a decent article on it is here

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/fallo...tle%3B1&page=1
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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OOH! 3rd person? FPS? that's pretty damn cool. I'm gonna read up on it and post my thoughts on it. thanks for the info there squeeeeb
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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All I read was "Liam Neeson" and I was immediately interested. I'll be sure to check this out when it comes out.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I am very concerned about this also. It mentions both FPS and turn based action style gameplay, but if you can skip one completely, then it seems unnecessary, more like its just there to hide the fact that is IS a shooter.

The problem is, we really know very little about how it works in practice, which is something that gameplay videos should clear up.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I cant wait either, loved both one and 2, son is actually playing 1 now ever since he got the gamer mag with it on the cover.
I need something anything to get me away from WoW.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm excited as well, and broke out my old Fallout 1 and 2 games to replay in anticipation. Man, I really hope it doesn't suck.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I just hope the interface of the pc version doesnt get gimped because of the dual 360 development (like Oblivion did)
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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(big sigh) What the hell is with the FPS insanity?

The gameplay in 1 and 2 was fine the way it was...
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Will be out October 28 in North America.

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Old 10-11-2008, 08:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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(big sigh) What the hell is with the FPS insanity?

The gameplay in 1 and 2 was fine the way it was...
Well keep in mind the dev team behind the game are the same people responsible for The Elder Scroll games. Those games are designed in first person even if they do offer a third person camera option. It sounds like the team is sticking with what they know.
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Old 10-11-2008, 02:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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(big sigh) What the hell is with the FPS insanity?

The gameplay in 1 and 2 was fine the way it was...
Yeah, this has somewhat annoyed me. Like, I'm thinking about not buying it. I have almost no interest in FPS games.
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, this has somewhat annoyed me. Like, I'm thinking about not buying it. I have almost no interest in FPS games.
I'm not buying it for the first person aspect. I'm buying it because it's Fallout.
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
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FPS games almost always give me motion sickness and I'm unable to play them. It has something to do with how the camera rotates and sometimes the headbob. There's only been a few exceptions and even those end up makin me sick after playing them long enough.

I'm looking forward to the game, but I kind of suspect I'm not going to be able to play it much.
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Old 10-12-2008, 04:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm not buying it for the first person aspect. I'm buying it because it's Fallout.
Yeah, I'm still tempted by this. It's not even the First Person aspect that really throws me. I just want to know what happened to my turn based combat?

Where have all the turn based RPG's gone? Does only Japan love them any more?
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm buying it anyways, no matter what out of any ounce of hope its somewhat like Fallout.

I already long ago requested off the 28th as a day off. My local GameStop is doing a midnight release, and its fully paid.

Hell yeah.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The 360 version has been leaked on the net for a week now.

Can't wait until the PC version hits. A whole friggin' week!
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Old 10-22-2008, 03:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I'll tell ya what happened - CPUs faster than 266Mhz. Heh, it's still somewhat there. There's some gameplay videos on Xbox Live, if you have it, or around the net. It's turn-based inspired, which I guess is the best way to describe it.

Really, the way you should be looking at it is this; don't buy Fallout 3 if you want to play 1/2.
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
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On order and coming in on the 28th....

I'm looking forward to postnuclear-apocalyptic "Oblivion."
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I just preordered it on Steam. Yay for not having to go to GameStop at 12AM.
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Old 10-25-2008, 06:38 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I just preordered it on Steam. Yay for not having to go to GameStop at 12AM.
Not yay for Steam. lol
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yay for Bethesda realizing that Steam is an awesome avenue for digital distro. Better?
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Old 10-26-2008, 01:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Agree to disagree, heh. Steam is a bane to gaming.
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Steam drives me bonkers! Why can't I play my games if I can't get online? Makes me sad.
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Old 10-26-2008, 07:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Steam is one of the best things for PC gaming in the recent years.

As for the online-requirement, you agreed/signed to that when you created your account.

-Fallout 3, t-minus 26 hours. (10pm Monday!)
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:02 AM   #25 (permalink)
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With Fallout 3 so close has anyone spotted any professional reviews? I've only managed a few but they were by small independent sources. They either gushed and gave the game a 10 without reason or condemned it for not being true to the source material of the first two games.

Anyone find any none-heavily biased reviews? At this point the game is a day one rental instead of a day one purchase.
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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At this point the game is a day one rental instead of a day one purchase.
What makes you come to that conclusion?


As for the reviews, IGN is publishing theirs tonight at midnight.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:10 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Well, mainly I'm a fan of the original two games under Black Isle & Interplay. With that in mind I've recently ended my media blackout on the game and started looking around for reviews and previews of final & near final builds.

What I've found is tons of polarizing opinions with no middle ground and what's worse is it's often hard to separate the biases in some of the writing. The impression I'm left with is this: Fallout III is a good rpg, but a lackluster third Fallout game. Does that make sense?

Perhaps the new team really didn't get what made Fallout, well Fallout. Perhaps the team did get it, but they were forced to make III more commercial & consumer friendly. On the flip side maybe the reviews I've found are looking at the old games through rose tinted glasses and III is a wonderful successor. Still all of this speculation is coming from small media outlets & blogs as the big boys have yet to post any official reviews of the finished game.

So in the end, it's too many mixed opinions from the little guys and no perspective from the "professionals". That's why I can't throw my hat in the ring on Day 1.

So I'll rent first and judge for myself. If the game is a wash I saved $52 and if it's worth owning I only lost $8.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:43 PM   #28 (permalink)
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As someone who doesn't have any sense of context concerning the Fallout series, I'm excited. I'm glad I'm not a Fallout fanboy; I would hate for my expectations for the series to ruin my enjoyment of what will most likely be a great game.
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Old 10-27-2008, 11:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Bobble head = cool.

Guide = 496 pages of awesome.

Bonus map (about 2.5 x 3 feet) amazing.

Art book = surreal.

Install process = killing me.. so slow.







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Old 10-28-2008, 02:28 AM   #30 (permalink)
 
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that looks awesome!!
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Just found this out last night, for those looking to buy the game and the strategy guide. Circuit City giving out $10 gift cards and a mini guide when you buy Fallout 3.

The official guide from Prima is $20. The mini-guide has a coupon inside which drops the price of the official guide to $9.99 (actually the coupon takes 25% off the official Prima guide's price, but Circuit City fliers say the guide is $9.99 with the coupon, ignore what the coupon actually says and make the store honor their flier).

So if you use the gift card, you basically get the Prima guide for free. You just have to pay the tax on $9.99


Edit: The mini guide comes with the regular version and the collectors edition, so anyone can take advantage of this.
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:41 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Damn I better see if one of the gamestop's near me has a collector's edition, thats just sweet!
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:03 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Holy crappamoly, IGN gave this game a 9.6 and said it's a must-buy. It's getting rave reviews on metacritic. I'm getting it.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:16 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Holy crappamoly, IGN gave this game a 9.6 and said it's a must-buy. It's getting rave reviews on metacritic. I'm getting it.
yeah, some people are saying they don't like the VATS tactical combat in it but it sounds pretty awesome like it adds an RPG or tactical aspect to it, otherwise it might just feel like an FPS with some RPG elements.

BTW, I was able to find a collector's edition of the PC version. I must have that lunchbox!
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
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lol... my power went out and so I didn't get to start downloading it until I got home from work.

This is torture.
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:23 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Coming in the mail!

Post updates stat! I want to know what people think!
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:03 AM   #37 (permalink)
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It has its flaws, mostly things that overlap from Oblivion.

BUT they are quite limited and it really does have the fallout feel. (Not 100% mind you, I still want a true tile based fallout!)

Amazing game.

This coming from a Fallout 1 & 2 fanatic.
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:34 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Does it "feature" level scaling?
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:38 AM   #39 (permalink)
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From another Fallout 1&2 fanatic, I have to agree. I've only got to play a few hours, but it's alot of fun so far. Just walking around and shooting Molerats in VATS is pretty cool.

Took out a supermutant with a 10mm pistol this morning before work. He scared the crap out of me, but I was able to take him down. Good stuff.
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Does it "feature" level scaling?
It does NOT feature level scaling. Everything in the game is what it is. Apparently nothing is even remotely challenging once you get to the level 19-20 range. The only way to really make things hard is to head off into random directions while you're still low level.

Personally, I think that's a good design, from your quotation marks, I assume you think so, too.
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