fallout 3
 

i'm excited about fallout 3, coming sometime (hopefully) next year. the thing i'm a bit "concerned" about is it will be a first person game, although still an RPG. i like the top down view, and it will have a third person camera, but i doubt i'll use it. still, i'm pretty stoked for it. i hope it's as good as fallout and fallout 2.

a decent article on it is here

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/fallo...tle%3B1&page=1

OOH! 3rd person? FPS? that's pretty damn cool. I'm gonna read up on it and post my thoughts on it. thanks for the info there squeeeeb

All I read was "Liam Neeson" and I was immediately interested. I'll be sure to check this out when it comes out.

I am very concerned about this also. It mentions both FPS and turn based action style gameplay, but if you can skip one completely, then it seems unnecessary, more like its just there to hide the fact that is IS a shooter.

The problem is, we really know very little about how it works in practice, which is something that gameplay videos should clear up.

I cant wait either, loved both one and 2, son is actually playing 1 now ever since he got the gamer mag with it on the cover.
I need something anything to get me away from WoW.

I'm excited as well, and broke out my old Fallout 1 and 2 games to replay in anticipation. Man, I really hope it doesn't suck.

I just hope the interface of the pc version doesnt get gimped because of the dual 360 development (like Oblivion did)

(big sigh) What the hell is with the FPS insanity?

The gameplay in 1 and 2 was fine the way it was...

Will be out October 28 in North America.

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Well keep in mind the dev team behind the game are the same people responsible for The Elder Scroll games. Those games are designed in first person even if they do offer a third person camera option. It sounds like the team is sticking with what they know.

Yeah, this has somewhat annoyed me. Like, I'm thinking about not buying it. I have almost no interest in FPS games.

I'm not buying it for the first person aspect. I'm buying it because it's Fallout. :thumbsup:

FPS games almost always give me motion sickness and I'm unable to play them. It has something to do with how the camera rotates and sometimes the headbob. There's only been a few exceptions and even those end up makin me sick after playing them long enough.

I'm looking forward to the game, but I kind of suspect I'm not going to be able to play it much.

Yeah, I'm still tempted by this. It's not even the First Person aspect that really throws me. I just want to know what happened to my turn based combat?

Where have all the turn based RPG's gone? Does only Japan love them any more?

I'm buying it anyways, no matter what out of any ounce of hope its somewhat like Fallout.

I already long ago requested off the 28th as a day off. My local GameStop is doing a midnight release, and its fully paid.

Hell yeah.

The 360 version has been leaked on the net for a week now.

Can't wait until the PC version hits. A whole friggin' week!

I'll tell ya what happened - CPUs faster than 266Mhz. Heh, it's still somewhat there. There's some gameplay videos on Xbox Live, if you have it, or around the net. It's turn-based inspired, which I guess is the best way to describe it.

Really, the way you should be looking at it is this; don't buy Fallout 3 if you want to play 1/2.

On order and coming in on the 28th....

I'm looking forward to postnuclear-apocalyptic "Oblivion."

I just preordered it on Steam. Yay for not having to go to GameStop at 12AM.

Not yay for Steam. lol

Yay for Bethesda realizing that Steam is an awesome avenue for digital distro. Better?

Agree to disagree, heh. Steam is a bane to gaming.

Steam drives me bonkers! Why can't I play my games if I can't get online? :( Makes me sad.

Steam is one of the best things for PC gaming in the recent years.

As for the online-requirement, you agreed/signed to that when you created your account.

-Fallout 3, t-minus 26 hours. (10pm Monday!)

With Fallout 3 so close has anyone spotted any professional reviews? I've only managed a few but they were by small independent sources. They either gushed and gave the game a 10 without reason or condemned it for not being true to the source material of the first two games.

Anyone find any none-heavily biased reviews? At this point the game is a day one rental instead of a day one purchase.

What makes you come to that conclusion?


As for the reviews, IGN is publishing theirs tonight at midnight.

Well, mainly I'm a fan of the original two games under Black Isle & Interplay. With that in mind I've recently ended my media blackout on the game and started looking around for reviews and previews of final & near final builds.

What I've found is tons of polarizing opinions with no middle ground and what's worse is it's often hard to separate the biases in some of the writing. The impression I'm left with is this: Fallout III is a good rpg, but a lackluster third Fallout game. Does that make sense?

Perhaps the new team really didn't get what made Fallout, well Fallout. Perhaps the team did get it, but they were forced to make III more commercial & consumer friendly. On the flip side maybe the reviews I've found are looking at the old games through rose tinted glasses and III is a wonderful successor. Still all of this speculation is coming from small media outlets & blogs as the big boys have yet to post any official reviews of the finished game.

So in the end, it's too many mixed opinions from the little guys and no perspective from the "professionals". That's why I can't throw my hat in the ring on Day 1.

So I'll rent first and judge for myself. If the game is a wash I saved $52 and if it's worth owning I only lost $8.

As someone who doesn't have any sense of context concerning the Fallout series, I'm excited. I'm glad I'm not a Fallout fanboy; I would hate for my expectations for the series to ruin my enjoyment of what will most likely be a great game.

Bobble head = cool.

Guide = 496 pages of awesome.

Bonus map (about 2.5 x 3 feet) amazing.

Art book = surreal.

Install process = killing me.. so slow. :(


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that looks awesome!!

Just found this out last night, for those looking to buy the game and the strategy guide. Circuit City giving out $10 gift cards and a mini guide when you buy Fallout 3.

The official guide from Prima is $20. The mini-guide has a coupon inside which drops the price of the official guide to $9.99 (actually the coupon takes 25% off the official Prima guide's price, but Circuit City fliers say the guide is $9.99 with the coupon, ignore what the coupon actually says and make the store honor their flier).

So if you use the gift card, you basically get the Prima guide for free. You just have to pay the tax on $9.99


Edit: The mini guide comes with the regular version and the collectors edition, so anyone can take advantage of this.

Damn I better see if one of the gamestop's near me has a collector's edition, thats just sweet!

Holy crappamoly, IGN gave this game a 9.6 and said it's a must-buy. It's getting rave reviews on metacritic. I'm getting it.

yeah, some people are saying they don't like the VATS tactical combat in it but it sounds pretty awesome like it adds an RPG or tactical aspect to it, otherwise it might just feel like an FPS with some RPG elements.

BTW, I was able to find a collector's edition of the PC version. I must have that lunchbox!

lol... my power went out and so I didn't get to start downloading it until I got home from work.

This is torture.

Coming in the mail!

Post updates stat! I want to know what people think!

It has its flaws, mostly things that overlap from Oblivion.

BUT they are quite limited and it really does have the fallout feel. (Not 100% mind you, I still want a true tile based fallout!)

Amazing game.

This coming from a Fallout 1 & 2 fanatic.

Does it "feature" level scaling?

From another Fallout 1&2 fanatic, I have to agree. I've only got to play a few hours, but it's alot of fun so far. Just walking around and shooting Molerats in VATS is pretty cool.

Took out a supermutant with a 10mm pistol this morning before work. He scared the crap out of me, but I was able to take him down. Good stuff.

It does NOT feature level scaling. Everything in the game is what it is. Apparently nothing is even remotely challenging once you get to the level 19-20 range. The only way to really make things hard is to head off into random directions while you're still low level.

Personally, I think that's a good design, from your quotation marks, I assume you think so, too.

I don't really know yet. If it does, it's not like Oblivion. I've been able to kill some things real easy and some take a lot more to kill. One person said that it does something like the level you enter a dungeon at is set at that level. So like you go in a place at level 2 the bad guys will be at like level 2-4 and then if you go back at level 15 those bad guys will still be at that level but I'm not quite sure if that's true or not.

Edit: oh well, I guess Frosstbyte corrected me. :)

Well, if this game has level scaling I'm not buying it no matter what. If it does not have it, I WILL be buying it no matter what. I hated Oblivion because of the scaling and didn't purchase it due to this single fact. Scaling ruins RPGs in my opinion.
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I just did a quick search and it sounds like the main questline is somewhat level scaled though not like Oblivion. Also, none of the optional areas/quests are scaled. Once you set foot in them, the level is locked in that area so you can still "do the game" in the order you want without scaled enemies.

I'd rather none of the game at all be scaled but this seems like it won't ruin the experience to me.

I didn't actually play oblivion. How did level scaling work in that and why was it so bad?

Oblivion had enemy scaling that was horrendous. If you went through the main quest without allocating your skill points you could beat the game at level 1 because every single enemy, dungeon, quest, and boss in the game were the same level as you. If you leveled up to level 20, the rats in the starting village were level 20. If you gained powerful armor at a higher level, the plainsmen at the starting village had the same armor. No matter where you went or what you did, every enemy was the same level as you, even the bosses. You changed the difficulty of the game using the option screen (easy, medium, hard, etc.).

Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind had traditional leveling, as in if you get slaughtered in a dungeon and then come back in 10 levels, you will own the dungeon and get revenge. That is what makes RPGs fun: seeing your character progress and get more powerful and then going back and seeing how those previous enemies who killed you now get slaughtered themselves.

Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion did away with this and put in level scaling that made every enemy your level and power level regardless of what happened. There was no revenge. There was no true character progression because as you gained levels, so did the entire world around you. The developers wanted gamers to be able to do any quest, fight any enemy, go anywhere they wanted, anytime they wanted in Oblivion. You could due to the level scaling but that also took away from the best part of RPGs...making your character stronger!! It ruined the game for me.

Thankfully it sounds like Fallout 3 isn't based on this system which is very good.

Ctrl-Alt-Del author said that there IS auto scaling. Enemies level up with you. I'll test it out myself when I play the game.

I've read two reviews that specifically said there isn't. I wonder if people are getting confused with it, maybe? Guess I'll wait on the gamers here to figure it out for us.

Edit: He updated his post and said:

So I guess enemies do scale, but in a limited capacity. They scale to your level when you enter a new area, but then that area is locked to that level... so if you go back later, you're stronger than those guys. That sounds just fine to me.

That sounds good to me as well. I hate auto leveling.

Laz Laz Laz, that's such a lie. You have formed this complete fabrication of what the scaling in Oblivion was like - it's nothing like that. The low level enemies were replaced by higher level enemies, you didn't have level 20 mud crabs chasing you around. The only things that stayed the same were the humanoids, except they got better weapons and armor (which were matched to your level, -not- to the armor you were wearing.)

um were you playing with mods? I distinctly remember rats beating the shit out of me at high levels. Like it would seriously take 5-10 minutes to kill a single rat and I did allocate my skill points well. If another would join in the fight my only option was to run.

Anyway, Fallout 3 is nothing like that.

The really crappy thing about TES IV:Oblivion was not just enemy level scaling but equipment scaling. I don't mean you can only find glass armor on enemies till higher levels, I mean quest rewards equipment. Example: if you did quest at level four your new armor would have 12 defense, but if you had waited to do the quest at level ten the armor would have had 20 defense.




Anyway, back to Fallout 3. The limited level scaling in Fallout III works like this:

Misc Quest A can be started at any time. If you start the quest at level 1 you fight low level Ants named Workers and some Soldiers. If you start the quest at level 20 you fight Soldiers and Warriors. However, this scaling isn't done for every quest in game. As far as I can tell it's only done for certain quests, perhaps for story reasons? Though like Las said, they lock the level of the mobs once you enter a place. Other good news, I haven't seen reward scaling yet.

No, I was playing on the 360. Maybe you had the slider too high? Heaven forbid you have to nudge it slightly to the left ;)

Fallout 3 is quite possibly the best single-player PC game this decade. I have no idea what it's like on console.

--jaded

love the lunch box!

Agreed.

Oblivion's level scaling sucked, but the difficulty slider counteracted it... I felt no shame in taking the difficulty down a notch or two (there are LOTS of notches) if the monsters started getting too hard. The scaling was broken, if you leveled off of non-combat skills, all of the monsters leveled up as well, with combat skills.

So far, Fallout 3 is amazing. There's really no question, F3 totally surpasses Oblivion in my eyes.

Can I rave somemore?

I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a game this much. Potal maybe, but it was so short. I've played for about 24 hours and I've barely even started. I usually wake up an hour early and play before getting ready for work. When I'm at work, I'm thinking about what I'm going to work on in the game when i get home that night.

So glad the game is equal to it's lineage.

VATS is the greatest invention since the wheel. This game had me from the first head shot induced decapitation.

For those who are worried, just pick up the game. You won't be disappointed.

With the VATS system the game plays like Elder Scrolls meets Mass Effect. If you don't want to use the VATS you can just FPS the game, tho there are obvious advantages to the VATS.
If you're in a crazy situation pause with VATS and check out your options. Shoot a gun out of someone's hand, take out their leg.. the arm they're swinging that bat with.. etc. Of course you have to be careful with it too cuz if you're standing there shooting with VATS you're standing there getting shot at while the action plays out.

Be sure to take your time and do the side quests and explore. Shit is hidden in every nook and cranny and lots of goodies can be easy to miss (hard to notice safes, stuff shoved into crates that are shoved into shelves, garbage cans, mailboxes, PET DOG!, etc.) You can EASY milk 100+ hours out of this game without even realizing. With other games these days you're lucky if you get 6.

I bought it for PC. It runs at 60 FPS on my PC with high settings but the game feels choppy for some reason. I turned Vsync off but it's still happening. Anyone else getting a choppiness like this? I have an FPS counter on so I know it's always at 55-60 FPS so the actual framerate is good. I'm still only 10 minutes into it but so far the atmosphere is really cool (and that is very important to me in a videogame).

The only time I had any lag or chop was when I tried it on Ultra, and then it was only in large outdoor environments. I have a mid grade setup.

Las I read about a fix for conditions for that:

Hit up your My Games\Fallout 3\Fallout.ini

iFPSClamp=0 ------> iFPSClamp=60

Give it a try, suppose to fix that issue.

I'm playing as a good guy (and looking forward to beating the game and starting over as a bad guy), so I've got Talon Co. Mercs after me all the time.

Last night I popped out of a metro station and got swarmed by supermutants. Got killed and respawned at the metro entrance. This time though... no super mutants. I started hearing gunfire around a corner and snuck a quick look.

The game had randomly thrown the Talon mercs at me, but now they were fighting the super mutants! It came down to one Talon guy with a sniper rifle taking out the last of the mutants. I almost felt bad about popping him in the head... almost.

All that was left was to walk around and pick up the stuff I wanted off the corpses. Pretty sweet.

Thanks I will try that after work.

I love this game. I've Role Played more with this game than any before.

Essentially I'm a "Good" guy in that I save the weak, punish the bad, and more or less leave alone those in the middle. However... I'm a Klepto. I MUST steal stuff if I can get away with it. I don't necessarily want the stuff, and certainly don't need the plates/cups... I just have to steal it.

Makes it interesting when you save the caravan-er from a bunch of raiders, only to pickpocket him and his ox of anything valuable the second he turns around. Only to drop 80% of the useless stuff because I can't carry it.

I get huge + Karma mixed with huge - Karma, but I love it regardless.

I'm having the same problem. To me it feels like mouse lag or massive mouse acceleration. In cod4 and hl2 based games the mouse feels really natural, in this game I can tweak the mouse by hardware and/or software but it always feels weird and skips.

I ended up changing my desktop refresh rate to 75 Hz in XP and most of the stuttering is gone in Fallout 3. It still feels slightly choppy when strafing but it is definitely playable without being annoyed now. I have to exit the game and reload my save every hour or so when the framerate mysteriously goes from 60 constant to 15 constant though. This game has major memory leaks or something.

The game is definitely fun. I played it for almost 3 hours last night. It's fun just exploring or doing the quests. The combat is fun and the rads implementation makes the game much more challenging and rewarding. The graphics are awesome as well.

Anyone getting the "Fallout3 has encountered a problem and needs to close. " on start up? I read their forum, tried the codex fixes but nothing.

Damn, I wish I had a good PC...

There's new Fallout 3 DLC for the 360 and PC.

I found this on another site.

I would love to try creating some cool new weapons.

Does anyone out there have this for a consol?

I bought it on the ps3 and I absolutely love it! My guy is as evil as they get. I told some kid his mom was a bitch and told him to run away from her, he did it. I slaughter most everyone I see out in the wide world, so far it works pretty good.

Where's the PS3 love? I understand that Valve hates the PS3, but does everyone else as well?

Finally collected all the Bobbleheads and got tired of roaming the wastes yesterday so, after 103 hours of playing, I finished the storyline. Good stuff. Now to play an evil character. :thumbsup:

I just got it for the PS3 but I've only played an hour or so into it. So far it looks pretty good. I can't wait to get home from work to play it some more.

Where do you guys store all your loot? I've been using the house in Arefu, but I wanna move somewhere else. Tenpenny Tower is too fancy, Rivet City takes too long to get to my hotel room.

I use my house in Megaton. Nice simple space and I have plenty of storage.

I just sell the stuff. :)

Need somewhere else besides the house in Megaton. Dragonlich, you sell everything? How many caps do you have? What about if you want to build nuka-grenades or repair stuff and its too heavy to carry all the components?...Im a packrat, I have like 20 assault rifles, shotguns and submachine guns for repairs, plus dozens of miscellaneous components, and a full wet bar hehe, can't carry them all at once. My little room in Arefu used to have 2 dead, blood spattered corpses on the floor, but they were 'cleaned up' after completing a certain quest. Now Im stuck with a roommate and concerned he might steal my stuff.

There are tons of empty houses in Minefield. Another place with a lot of empty homes would be Big Town depending on how you did the quest line. Also lots of homes in Greyditch.

After each save I experiment with different scenerios and save again with an outcome I like. Its a way of playing good and bad at the same time. There is something fun about killing everyone in Megaton.

In my last game, I ended with something like 8000 caps. I also had high strength, and only carried the stuff I really needed. This way I usually didn't have any problems with carying heavy stuff. I didn't need to carry tons of weapons around for repairs; I could easily go to a shop for repairs, or get spares/replacements from dead enemies.

Perhaps in my new game I'll buy a house or something. See how that works out for me. :)

I just got the game last night. It's hard to read the text on my crappy bedroom TV so I'm waiting to move it to my living room after the Christmas mess is cleaned up. I'm probably going to just restart because I'm not happy with the stats and choices that I chose on my first trip through the Vault.

Before you exit the vault, it asks if you want to change appearance/stats one last time.

I bought the scientist theme for my Megaton house, but it's still just so ghetto. Can you use the editor to create a custom house in the game?

Also, do you think this game will be modded as extensively as Morrowind/Oblivion?

I found that the first half of the perks didn't seem very good. Until Finesse. So I kept choosing Intense Training. So I have max Strength, Intelligence, and Luck as well as a 4 or 5 in everything else.

Yes, you can create your own house in the game, and yes, there are already many mods out there. Try Fallout 3 Nexus - Fallout 3 mods and community

Cool, thanks, last time I checked on some fallout wiki like only a week or so ago, there were only 10 simple mods, variable changes. I see that the G.E.C.K was what everyone was waiting for.

Yeah, I'm definitely looking to pick this up for PC now. The mod scene has started to go nuts.

Just got an HD tv (It was too good a deal to pass up). I loved Fallout on my regular tv, so I'd imagine this thing is going to blow me out of the water. I'm throwing it back in once I'm done with Resistance 2.

I'm about to buy Fallout 3 for the 360, but wanted to find out some things about the character's maneuverability before I commit to it.

I recently dl'ed the demo for RE5 and was appalled by the bad maneuverability of Chris Redfield.
I was looking forward to the game, but I won't even rent that crap, now.

Since I picked Fable II over F3 back in November to buy, I've had F3 in my Gamefly queue, and it's still at Low availability.

Now, I looked at a bunch of YouTube vids, checking out the action, but mainly all I saw was action from the first person perspective.
A few times I saw him climb down into crevasses, but never saw him climb up or jump over anything.

My question is, can he climb, jump, kneel, dodge, strafe or hide behind objects?
Any of those are acceptable.

I don't want something anywhere as bad as RE5.

I'll buy the game if I'm happy with your answers.
Thanks in advance.

Yes you can do all of those. There's no hide behind objects button like in gears of war though (at least on the PC as far as I can remember).

RE5 has great controls though, I don't know what you're talking about? Did you play RE4? It's a completely different type of game though than say F3 or Gears of War of FableII (whose controls I hated). The games are really like comparing apples to oranges.

Thanks, YaW. :thumbsup:
And, yeah, I played RE4 a bit on my GameCube, but I don't remember the controls.

If the game control in the actual RE5 game is better than the demo, then I'd be interested in playing it, but from what I've read online, and seen on X-Play, the controls are the same, and it just wasn't fun at all.
It was very frustrating to say the least.

It's good to hear your comments on Fallout 3, though. Thanks. :)

You can take cover behind objects, (my fave is hiding behind a column or tree, waiting for my VATS to fill back up, then popping out) jump, do all that stuff. No reason not to get Fallout 3.

Even better with the HDTV. There were a few times I got so caught up in how "pretty" everything was that I didn't realize I was being shot at. Stupid raiders!

Wow I can't believe I didn't update this thread.

I ended up logging a gigantic 52 hours on my Fallout 3 file (which is a ton for a single player PC game). It took me 52 hours to beat the main quest because if I did anything for the main quest, I explored every area on the way there.

This game is the 2008 GOTY for me. It was an experience I won't forget. The atmosphere in this game is easily as good as Bioshock, and that is saying something. The graphics on PC are out of this world. The plot was great as well and each location, while all dreadfully reminiscent of a nuclear holocaust, was beautifully created and unique.

A few complaints with the game: the voice acting sucks (except Dad, and a small quantity of other characters). The animations for NPCs and your main character are below average as well (you pretty much have to play it in first person mode). Most of the characters in the game are voiced by the same 2 actors, just like Oblivion. Also, oddly enough, currency in the game is pretty useless (by the end I had 31,000 caps and nothing to spend it on). I would have loved to been able to upgrade my weapons and armor with my money but instead all I used it for was...buying ammo.

These things do not ruin the experience and I wholeheartedly recommend this game to ANYONE that loves a game with atmosphere and attention to detail. You won't find another game with this much work put into the environment (sans Bioshock of course).

I clocked 82 hours, and didn't even explore all of the map. I did a lot of pointless shit though, just for kicks.

I agree with your gripes. I didn't even have to buy ammo. So I wasted my money on stuff for my house. I also found the range of weaponry unnecessary, since there is no tactical reason for a given weapon - thje advantages of optimal weapon choice is too small. Of all the "custom weapons", I only found the shishkebab and nuka-granades worth it. The rock-it launcher is funny (decapitating a super mutant with a teddy bear), but that's about it. The NPC's have crap party AI. They ended up getting themselves killed more often than not, and the tactical settings are far inferior to NWN and KOTOR- I'm making the comparison because the party settings are similar. I even ended up sending dogmeat away, cuz I couldn't bear to see him die again.

That said, its a shooter experience unlike any other this year. Easily GOTY for me.

Oh, and I played it on X360. I can't play FPS on PC's anymore - I've lost the dexterity for it. lol.

Thanks to this thread, I installed a mod that let me continue to gain experience past level 20. I reached level 20 at around 75 hours, I'm now at 160 hours of gameplay and still going, with one more quest to go (the main one). Agree that money is irrelevant now, but it wasn't for the first 10 levels or so. Coming out Vault 101 into the blazing sun of a dead world was a most unique gaming experience. I had setup a base at Arefu and had a pet Yao Guai for 40 hours or so. It was a caravan guard and apparetnly the caravan guy was killed and the YG just stuck around. It would walk around panting and growling, occasionally laying down to rest. I would leave him scraps of food but I don't think it ever ate them lol. He was eventually killed by a Deathclaw that wandered into the base. Lately I've been in Recon Armor and sneaking around taking out enemies with the dart gun...great fun. Jericho was a good, funny partner to have, especially in the dark, underground levels. I understand there are now 2 (3?) exapnsion packs now availale. One of the alltime great computer videogames.

I logged over 100 hours as my evil character "shithead." I got the explorer perk and just roamed the wastes, which proved to be alot of fun. However, being evil wasn't and I soon found myself killing slavers and helping people out of jams. I was still a "scourge of the wastes" though. :)

Sadly, I'm on the PS3, so I don't get downloads. That's a pretty crappy way to run a railroad, if you know what I mean.

I was a bit disapointed with the game overall. Still above most games of that type of course, but it just didn't keep my attention for longer than running straight through the main campaign. I also didn't care for the ending.

Yeah, if there was one flaw in my mind, this was it. One of the great things about Fallout and it's sequels was that, after the main campaign was over, you could still roam around and do stuff. Would that have been hard to do this time?

I guess you can on X-Box, but some of us are smelly, stupid PS3 users. We aren't good enough for additional levels and addons.:grumpy:

I don't think you can on Xbox either. At least I wasn't able to.

That's odd. I thought the add ons (Anchorage, The Pitt, Etc.) allowed you to level up past 20. Once I realized I couldn't get the downloads on the PS3, I kinda stopped listening.

After months on Low Availability in my Queue at Gamefly, they finally sent Fallout 3 to me yesterday.
Now I get to try it before I buy it. :thumbsup:

It's looking good so far. I haven't made it out of the vault. I had to start over.
I went to save the game, and realized I was logged into my buddy's gamertag. (At least I didn't get too far.)

Dunno how it works, but the add-on probably allows you to import a player, or you create a player in the holopod. *shrugs*.

You have to start the add-ons prior to finishing the main story.

Are any of the Fallout 3 expansions out yet? A simple question yet I'm finding it difficult to find an answer.