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Esen · 08-19-2006, 05:15 AM

Hi all.

I was thinking that it would be really cool if had some TFP get togethers on second life.
If you do not know what second life is, it is a virtual world. It is pretty freaking cool.

Everything you own in the second life world you own in real life you have 100% rights to it.
Anyways I ve been going to a few of the clubs in it and was thinking it would be great if we were all in it and chatting and dancing and what ever,

Second Life is free and only costs money if you decide to buy land, which you really dont need to have.

ANyways I miss some of the cool get togehters we have had with TFP and thought this may be fun.

Anyone already doing this?

rofgilead · 08-20-2006, 02:37 PM

Esen,

I tried Second Life, but it seems slow and somewhat ackward. Do you use Second Life much? What do you do there? I wandered around a little bit, but quickly grew bored with the world. I think, partly, I just need entertainment from my multiple player/person games/worlds and I'm used to games too much. So, if there is no character advancement or fights... gets boring.

Esen · 08-20-2006, 03:27 PM

Hi Rofgilead,
The biggest thing with Second life is that it really isnt a game in the sense of what we in society are used to.

I think some people label it a game due to it is really difficult to fathom what it really is.
The best explanation that I can come up for it is that it is an obtainable parallel universe.

I know this is sounding cheesy.
However, Second life has it's own econimical structure (and not in the way we are used to in a gameing universe. It also has its own social classes, employment and artistic classes.
Ownership of land and property.
In fact everything that you saw while walking around in second life (with a few exceptions) are all entirely user made.
Think about that..
The creators of second life allow you to do all of your own programming to the point where if you can think of it you are able to create it.

everything you create in the game you own!!! I mean 100%.

It is kind of like at one point the earth was empty of human creations on it. a clean slate. then we found ways to create things and eventually sell and trade them. This is what is happening righ now in second life. A planet was created and you are allowed to build sell and buy all that you want.
The currency is Lindens and the U.S dollar runs parallel to it. Same as if you were in Canada.
In Canada you use their currency but the U.S dollar like most other currencies is accepted and able to be exchanged.
Currently the exchange rate is somewhere between 250- 300 Lindens per U.S dollar.

You are able to echange your "in Game $'s anytime very easily into U.s dollars.

WHY IS ALL THIS POSSIBLE?
Supply and demand, people want Items and people want land and since the $'s in second life are convertible to US any $'s made from the sale of property and land is actual tangible assets.
Sure it may be a pixel but since it is tangible it has value.

Now. what can you do in Second Life.
for one thing. I think most in TFP will aprreciate this.. You can have hard core graphic sex lol!!!
as well as
Go to dance clube, stores, movies, concerts, game showa, schools, churches, self help groups, even the 2006 MLB allStar game was live in second life.
You were able to actually go to the stadium in Second life buy a foam finger

and sit in the stands and watch the actual game inside of a stadium!!!!!! as it was happening real time!

Clubs to me are kind of like really fun chat rooms. Instead of just looking at text you are looking at an environment and sharing an eperience with others while you chat and do what ever.

I own my own property built my own home ( not an easy task) and try and build my own products.
Which is the next thing to do.
You can work on and improve your craft. building what ever it is you build and everything can be made to be interactive. I mean cars with Hydraulics that go certain mph and horns and transmissions and also turn into hover crafts and look like a 1950's muscle car.

Also big corporations such as coca cola, American apparell etc. sell their merchandise in the game.
I'm telling you it is a lot more then it seems on the surface and it is still young enough to explode into something that we cannot comprehend.
You can actually go to a real live college in Second life.
Major Universities that when you go and sign up in them in real life out side of second life give you the option of instead of moving to where ever they are to go to their unvieristy on-line in second life. with a real professor and other students. and you have your virtual desk and everything.

Their is also combat in Second Life. The thing about th ecombat in second life is that it is endless. what ever weapon you can think about and create you can! Their are many areas where you can fight and even assasinate openly!.

Also lotsdof games, and casinos in Second Life that actually pay out US $'s that you can convert into US $.
As well a lot of WHore houses, escort services etc.
Anyhow. it can get borng once in a while until you realize that it many ways it is like your first life.
if you stay home and wait for something to happen you will be board, but if you use their search options you can find things to do or if you work on a skillyou will refine it.

One example is.
I was on a live game show the other day that picked contestants from the audience.
It was like :who wants to be a millionaire" it was a lot of fun!!!!

Anyhow I would love to meet up with some TFP in Second life and go to some clubs!
You can also sell your own books and movies, and paintings and Music in teh game and share it ans sell it. and you can make it so that it cannot be stolen or reproduced.

it is insane.
Kurt Vonnegut the authur lives in Second Life.
As well as many other people you wouldn't even realize that are there.

Anyways Ill stop now.

Ace_O_Spades · 08-20-2006, 03:57 PM

haha I never know what's shadow advertising these days.

anyway, I'll probably download it and check it out simply beause it reminds me of Snow Crash and I always wanted to check out what that would be like.

Sage · 08-20-2006, 04:42 PM

I was just thinking about this last night! Great idea!

Esen · 08-20-2006, 06:04 PM

SNOW CRASH!!!!
That is what this game was modeled after.
the developers designed this after the MEtaverse.
Ace.
Second Life is Neil Stephenson's Metaverse from Snow Crash.

I'm not even saying that lol. it's what the creaters who made second Life (created by one of the guys who used to work at real networks) used to model the game.
LOL the Metaverse is a real living thing now.

Cool book btw.

TexanAvenger · 08-20-2006, 06:18 PM

I'd be up for it.

Once I finally get around to installing it.

Esen · 08-20-2006, 06:42 PM

yea, the cool thing is that you do not need any disks.

One thing though, if you go in thinking it will be an adventure game like Worlds of War Craft you will be bored.

You need to look at it for what it is. a second life.
SOme of the social aspects though do remind me of Ultima Online but with the opportunity of making real life Money and fun events like dance clubs and such.

Ace_O_Spades · 08-22-2006, 09:41 AM

I just realized that I was in the beta for this

back when it was called "There"

high_jinx · 08-22-2006, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esen

SNOW CRASH!!!!
That is what this game was modeled after.
the developers designed this after the MEtaverse.
Ace.
Second Life is Neil Stephenson's Metaverse from Snow Crash.

I'm not even saying that lol. it's what the creaters who made second Life (created by one of the guys who used to work at real networks) used to model the game.
LOL the Metaverse is a real living thing now.

Cool book btw.

It also reminds me of the "Otherland" series by tad williams... a sick trilogy on VR.

Ace_O_Spades · 08-31-2006, 12:02 PM

I just sold my first merchandise, this game is addicting.

I also took the plunge and got a premium membership (7 bucks a month is really nothing)

Anyway, I think if this thread were moved to the games forum you'd have more interest.

amonkie · 08-31-2006, 01:23 PM

* Thread Moved as Ace's Suggestion was right on target.. happy Gaming! *

caver · 09-01-2006, 01:26 PM

I am trying this, but dont wish to spend any real money,
so farm, hmm uh this could probably be interesting for a few minutes..... But I do have 2 Lindens rofl

Ace_O_Spades · 09-01-2006, 03:32 PM

I've got just over 1900, but I sold a few bongs which netted me some good cash

caver · 09-01-2006, 09:27 PM

OK, I am thinking I like this. Up to 35L$ rofl. This from sitting on a stump while
I had other things to do. And a friendly citizen playing a fireside game.

Also I totaly suck at the combat interface, ala Samurai Island

Cynthetiq · 09-01-2006, 09:29 PM

I loaded it and was bored... i uninstalled it.

the videos and press made it seem more than it was... a chat room with avatars. did i miss something?

TexanAvenger · 09-01-2006, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

I loaded it and was bored... i uninstalled it.

the videos and press made it seem more than it was... a chat room with avatars. did i miss something?

Hey... uh, it's a big chatroom though.

Nikilidstrom · 09-02-2006, 06:28 AM

how difficult is the item creation process? I watched the video on the website of someone making a virtual guitar for Suzanne Vega, and they made it look pretty easy. But looks are often decieving.

Ace_O_Spades · 09-02-2006, 08:36 AM

Item creation is fairly simple... Especially if you've ever worked in a 3d design studio before.

However, the creation studio has several serious drawbacks.

My kingdom for binary deletion.

And yeah, it's basically a huge chatroom... but only if you're playing the free side of it. If you own land and run a business it can be fairly fun. Especially if you operate in a niche market. IE: NOT female skins.

08-19-2006, 05:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
Esen TFPer formaly known as Chauncey Location: North East	TFP And Second Life Hi all. I was thinking that it would be really cool if had some TFP get togethers on second life. If you do not know what second life is, it is a virtual world. It is pretty freaking cool. Everything you own in the second life world you own in real life you have 100% rights to it. Anyways I ve been going to a few of the clubs in it and was thinking it would be great if we were all in it and chatting and dancing and what ever, Second Life is free and only costs money if you decide to buy land, which you really dont need to have. ANyways I miss some of the cool get togehters we have had with TFP and thought this may be fun. Anyone already doing this? __________________ ~Esen What is everyone doing in my room?

08-20-2006, 02:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
rofgilead Crazy Location: Nowhere	On Second Life Esen, I tried Second Life, but it seems slow and somewhat ackward. Do you use Second Life much? What do you do there? I wandered around a little bit, but quickly grew bored with the world. I think, partly, I just need entertainment from my multiple player/person games/worlds and I'm used to games too much. So, if there is no character advancement or fights... gets boring.

08-20-2006, 03:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Esen TFPer formaly known as Chauncey Location: North East	Hi Rofgilead, The biggest thing with Second life is that it really isnt a game in the sense of what we in society are used to. I think some people label it a game due to it is really difficult to fathom what it really is. The best explanation that I can come up for it is that it is an obtainable parallel universe. I know this is sounding cheesy. However, Second life has it's own econimical structure (and not in the way we are used to in a gameing universe. It also has its own social classes, employment and artistic classes. Ownership of land and property. In fact everything that you saw while walking around in second life (with a few exceptions) are all entirely user made. Think about that.. The creators of second life allow you to do all of your own programming to the point where if you can think of it you are able to create it. everything you create in the game you own!!! I mean 100%. It is kind of like at one point the earth was empty of human creations on it. a clean slate. then we found ways to create things and eventually sell and trade them. This is what is happening righ now in second life. A planet was created and you are allowed to build sell and buy all that you want. The currency is Lindens and the U.S dollar runs parallel to it. Same as if you were in Canada. In Canada you use their currency but the U.S dollar like most other currencies is accepted and able to be exchanged. Currently the exchange rate is somewhere between 250- 300 Lindens per U.S dollar. You are able to echange your "in Game $'s anytime very easily into U.s dollars. WHY IS ALL THIS POSSIBLE? Supply and demand, people want Items and people want land and since the $'s in second life are convertible to US any $'s made from the sale of property and land is actual tangible assets. Sure it may be a pixel but since it is tangible it has value. Now. what can you do in Second Life. for one thing. I think most in TFP will aprreciate this.. You can have hard core graphic sex lol!!! as well as Go to dance clube, stores, movies, concerts, game showa, schools, churches, self help groups, even the 2006 MLB allStar game was live in second life. You were able to actually go to the stadium in Second life buy a foam finger and sit in the stands and watch the actual game inside of a stadium!!!!!! as it was happening real time! Clubs to me are kind of like really fun chat rooms. Instead of just looking at text you are looking at an environment and sharing an eperience with others while you chat and do what ever. I own my own property built my own home ( not an easy task) and try and build my own products. Which is the next thing to do. You can work on and improve your craft. building what ever it is you build and everything can be made to be interactive. I mean cars with Hydraulics that go certain mph and horns and transmissions and also turn into hover crafts and look like a 1950's muscle car. Also big corporations such as coca cola, American apparell etc. sell their merchandise in the game. I'm telling you it is a lot more then it seems on the surface and it is still young enough to explode into something that we cannot comprehend. You can actually go to a real live college in Second life. Major Universities that when you go and sign up in them in real life out side of second life give you the option of instead of moving to where ever they are to go to their unvieristy on-line in second life. with a real professor and other students. and you have your virtual desk and everything. Their is also combat in Second Life. The thing about th ecombat in second life is that it is endless. what ever weapon you can think about and create you can! Their are many areas where you can fight and even assasinate openly!. Also lotsdof games, and casinos in Second Life that actually pay out US $'s that you can convert into US $. As well a lot of WHore houses, escort services etc. Anyhow. it can get borng once in a while until you realize that it many ways it is like your first life. if you stay home and wait for something to happen you will be board, but if you use their search options you can find things to do or if you work on a skillyou will refine it. One example is. I was on a live game show the other day that picked contestants from the audience. It was like :who wants to be a millionaire" it was a lot of fun!!!! Anyhow I would love to meet up with some TFP in Second life and go to some clubs! You can also sell your own books and movies, and paintings and Music in teh game and share it ans sell it. and you can make it so that it cannot be stolen or reproduced. it is insane. Kurt Vonnegut the authur lives in Second Life. As well as many other people you wouldn't even realize that are there. Anyways Ill stop now. __________________ ~Esen What is everyone doing in my room?

08-20-2006, 03:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	haha I never know what's shadow advertising these days. anyway, I'll probably download it and check it out simply beause it reminds me of Snow Crash and I always wanted to check out what that would be like. __________________ Feh.

08-20-2006, 04:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sage hoarding all the big girl panties since 2005 Location: North side	I was just thinking about this last night! Great idea! __________________ Sage knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's She answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox She quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus In conics she can floor peculiarities parabolous -C'hi

08-20-2006, 06:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Esen TFPer formaly known as Chauncey Location: North East	SNOW CRASH!!!! That is what this game was modeled after. the developers designed this after the MEtaverse. Ace. Second Life is Neil Stephenson's Metaverse from Snow Crash. I'm not even saying that lol. it's what the creaters who made second Life (created by one of the guys who used to work at real networks) used to model the game. LOL the Metaverse is a real living thing now. Cool book btw. __________________ ~Esen What is everyone doing in my room?

08-20-2006, 06:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
TexanAvenger Born-Again New Guy Location: Unfound.	I'd be up for it. Once I finally get around to installing it.

08-20-2006, 06:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Esen TFPer formaly known as Chauncey Location: North East	yea, the cool thing is that you do not need any disks. One thing though, if you go in thinking it will be an adventure game like Worlds of War Craft you will be bored. You need to look at it for what it is. a second life. SOme of the social aspects though do remind me of Ultima Online but with the opportunity of making real life Money and fun events like dance clubs and such. __________________ ~Esen What is everyone doing in my room?

08-22-2006, 09:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	I just realized that I was in the beta for this back when it was called "There" __________________ Feh.

08-31-2006, 12:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	I just sold my first merchandise, this game is addicting. I also took the plunge and got a premium membership (7 bucks a month is really nothing) Anyway, I think if this thread were moved to the games forum you'd have more interest. __________________ Feh.

08-31-2006, 01:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	* Thread Moved as Ace's Suggestion was right on target.. happy Gaming! * __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

09-01-2006, 01:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
caver Tilted Location: Texas, Lbk	I am trying this, but dont wish to spend any real money, so farm, hmm uh this could probably be interesting for a few minutes..... But I do have 2 Lindens rofl

09-01-2006, 03:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	I've got just over 1900, but I sold a few bongs which netted me some good cash __________________ Feh.

09-01-2006, 09:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
caver Tilted Location: Texas, Lbk	OK, I am thinking I like this. Up to 35L$ rofl. This from sitting on a stump while I had other things to do. And a friendly citizen playing a fireside game. Also I totaly suck at the combat interface, ala Samurai Island

09-01-2006, 09:29 PM	#16 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	I loaded it and was bored... i uninstalled it. the videos and press made it seem more than it was... a chat room with avatars. did i miss something? __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

09-02-2006, 06:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
Nikilidstrom Stick it in your five hole! Location: Michigan, USA	how difficult is the item creation process? I watched the video on the website of someone making a virtual guitar for Suzanne Vega, and they made it look pretty easy. But looks are often decieving.

09-02-2006, 08:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	Item creation is fairly simple... Especially if you've ever worked in a 3d design studio before. However, the creation studio has several serious drawbacks. My kingdom for binary deletion. And yeah, it's basically a huge chatroom... but only if you're playing the free side of it. If you own land and run a business it can be fairly fun. Especially if you operate in a niche market. IE: NOT female skins. __________________ Feh.