The Longest Thread Ever!

[Jetée]

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[Zooksport2]

Originally Posted by BadNick

only 872 more until we overtake those non-pros

846 is the Margin now....

[MexicanOnABike]

is it? it's going great then! we'll be done by the end of the month(march).

[LordEden]

Rollin', Rollin', Rollin', keep those posts a rollin', RAWHIDE!

[BadNick]

whips and chains...and some black leather. That's what we need around here. I'm OK with some other leather colors, too.

[Jetée]

[ring]

An attractive palindrome is fast approaching.

[BadNick]

hi ring, I hope your computer problems are corrected


here's a hello wave to all of you

...a friend just sent me an email with 10 really cool wave pics, so here's one of my favorite:

[ring]

Wavies.

[Jetée]

continuing the portrayals from something else previously... overgrown arthropods (anthro?)

Crabzilla is the biggest crab ever seen in Britain - Odd News | newslite.tv

[BadNick]

^ I bet it tasted good, too! ...at least the legs in that type taste good

here's a couple more waves for your enjoyment

[Jetée]

alright, I'm trying to revise and institue a better calendar, so I'm going to be busy working out light rotations, mathematical inputs, and some hard long division?

One question: any suggestions for hours in a day, or are you fine with the set 24?

[Zooksport2]

Happy birthday Jetée !!!!

[Jetée]

Ah, have to remind me of the work still left ahead of me? Conceded.

Thanks.

Now, upwards and onwards: I initially wanted 13 months in my new calendar, but the logistics of finding out leap days in a leap year is too much work to be redone with ; instead the new formula looks somewhat like this:

new day = 27 hours

new month = 27 days

new year = 12 months (but with appopriate names)

final conclusion: every 4 years, the total amount of Earth hours will need to equate to 35, 064.

leftovers: now, what to do with that extra 90 minutes leftover? "daylight savings 22 minutes", or just a leap hour every 4 years?

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Also, New year's (ie the first month) would be next month (I think... need to recheck my dates)

[MexicanOnABike]

I like the metric system for hours. Either 100 hours or 10hr days. divided in equal parts:10min or 100min, 100 sec?

[MexicanOnABike]

I thought I would add another just to speed things up.

Do you agree?
BTW jet: It would be cool to reset every computer/ID/etc.'s date to fit your calendar! haha!

[Jetée]

that's why we need to perfect it before trying to convert the world.

also, my calculations deemd it to be an extra 1.5 hours every month, not every 4 years (as previously stated).

So, each year, it would amount to an additional 18 hours that have not yet been allocated (or 2/3 of a full 27-hour day) towards a leap day, or month.

Besides that, it may seem that this hypothetical new calendar has a new set of 324 days equaling a year. Maybe a 27 x 27 hour by day structure is not the most efficient.

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as a future reference point (mostly for myself) I'm adding this infactoid:


there are 140,253 hours in a 16-year Earth revolution cycle.
(much more accurate than the previously-used 4-year : 35,064 scale)

[BadNick]

Happy Birthday, Jetée!

While I ponder "why", can you tell us what inspired you to come up with a new calendar?

[Jetée]

Originally Posted by BadNick

Happy Birthday, Jetée!

While I ponder "why", can you tell us what inspired you to come up with a new calendar?

Well, for starters, and this is just starters, I don't like that December is the 12th month, when for most of history, it was only the 10th one.

No calendar, as of yet, is precise. They all have some sort of trick, loophole, and clause to make it work longterm. I want a fixed perptual one.

Also, I watched some sort of documentary on Ethopia and I thought their 13-month calendar was more ingenious than having 28, 29, 30, and 31-day months, but theirs is practically the same (they have a leap month, or week). No set defined length of month.

Furthermore, I heard an offhanded comment about "if there three more hours in a day, then I'd definitely read books".

Lastly, I was commisioned by a higher power (my brain) to conquer improve the world in at least one feasible way, and this seemed like the easiest manner in doing so.

This article is much better at explaining it than I am (especially for a nonsense-type thread): Calendar reform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia ; born in the same place and same year as my childhood

PS
I also proposed a new day-naming system ; Nobody even knows who Tiw is anymore. Get modernized. And, I somewhat agree with MOAB; if our most minscule rudiments of time-telling is metrics (nano,milli-seconds) then our entire time philosophy should be structured in this way as well.

[Zooksport2]

Well, guess thats over and done with......

[Jetée]

Nothing's over until we reach the goal.

Thanks for the wishes Zooksport.

(I'd really like to start a hobby talk)

[Zooksport2]

An anti-whaling activist from New Zealand was in custody on a Japanese vessel and will likely be taken to Japan to face charges after secretly boarding the ship as part of a protest, officials said Tuesday.

Diplomats in New Zealand and Tokyo have been meeting to discuss what to do with Peter Bethune, who jumped aboard the Shonan Maru 2 from a Jet Ski on Monday with the stated goal of making a citizen's arrest of the ship's captain, while handing over a $3 million bill for the destruction of his protest ship last month.

[carrot glace]

that thing needs a batman logo

[BadNick]

Blue Whales are the longest animals on Earth, even longer than the longest dinosaurs...as far as we know so far

[Ourcrazymodern?]

I'd reset my watch
except that I don't wear one
& I don't have time.

[Jetée]

Alright, I finally figured out my new calendar. (for now)

seconds' and minutes' measurements stay the same. 60 seconds equal a minute, and 60 minutes equal an hour.

From there, I expanded my calculations abit, and learned that there indeed could be a static number of days in a month, with only one occurence of a leap year every other solar revolution.

So, with that, there are now 27 hours within a day's span, and 27 days that make up a month. There will still be 12 months within a year, but now the number of days that make up a year has been reduced to 324 total days. The number of hours present within a year is the exact same as that which would be found in the old Gregorian Calendar, but my new method better disperses the "leftover" hours from uneven time intervals found within a year.

Reguarly, in the Gregorian Calendar, there would have been 5 hours, 49 minutes, and 12 seconds left over from each Earth revolutionary cycle (a year), and over time, it was decided to have muliple intances of leap years, beginning with one every 4 years, and then some other ones every 50, 100, 1000 years depending. I also calculated that while this isn't very efficient in tracking exact dates over long spans of time, the way in hich the time was kept accurate was only off around ~8.72 seconds (in my calculations ; the official offseting stated by scienists is closer to an ~27 second differential in true precision time.

My new calendar has a "leftovers" holding time of 17.82 hours precisely, but like the Gregorian Calendar above, in rough estimations, this can be rounded up in order to caculate when to add a full extra day, constituting a leap year.

So, with that, my new calendar will have 324 days in a common year, and every other year, a leap year will be institued to expand the calendar to 325 days in a leap year. (it's a cycle of 3: 324 days common, 325 days leap, and then 324 days common again.)

Additionally, because of the extra 32.4 minutes held over by undistributed time, over a period of 4 years, there will also an implentation of a leap age, which will occur every 200 years. Whereas the Gregorian Calendar was accurate to within an 27 second differential (1 day every 3,236 years)

With my "yet unnamed new proposed calendar" system, it is accurate to within a .005 second differential every 1,000 years. (or 1 day left undistributed every 172,800,000 years)

helpful aid that assisted my reasearching: The Leap Year and Leap Day - February 29

[cdwonderful]

Originally Posted by Jetée

With my "yet unnamed new proposed calendar" system, it is accurate to within a .005 second differential every 1,000 years. (or 1 day left undistributed every 172,800,000 years)

helpful aid that assisted my reasearching: The Leap Year and Leap Day - February 29

I predict your new calendar will find its place next to the" garfield" and "what white people like "calendars
in
Barnes and Nobles everywhere. I will be the first to buy it.

just after new years.............

[Jetée]

Yeah, but I better get going fast then... I want my new year's to coincide either with Chinese New Year's (crap, it was over the weekend) OR with why we even have a calendar at the date it is now: Anno Domini (basically, the date Jesus was said to have appeared on Earth, and if I'm not mistaken, he was born and died within a month or a week of each date, if not the exact same date.)

Maybe I'll shoot for sometime in Mid-March to finalize this thing and send it to NASA.

[MexicanOnABike]

if seconds and minutes stay the same and we have 27hrs, do you mean to change the actual time length of seconds and minutes and hours? so a second would be a little bit shorter than it is now right?

[Jetée]

Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike

if seconds and minutes stay the same and we have 27hrs, do you mean to change the actual time length of seconds and minutes and hours? so a second would be a little bit shorter than it is now right?

no, the total number of seconds, minutes and hours found within a solar year would be exactly the same, I'm just reconstituting them into compartmentalized "longer" days of 27 hours, and then further making each month in a year consist of 27 days (save for month 1 that will have 28 days every other year). If anything, I'm just sliding hours along to make "better" days.

It's just a better solution to the odd-number of months we have now (which consist of 28, 29, 30 and 31-day months) and also allowing for a single day's span to be slightly elongated.

[Ourcrazymodern?]

Sunrises & sets
must still remain the basis
for figuring days.

(2x1)+2=3x1

[Jetée]

That's true, but neither phase of day (day or night) has a specific allocation of a time period (I think) other than the some parts on the Equator, where I believe morning and night are exactly the same length of time.

I will revisit this and see where an extra 3 hours can be squeezed into a normal day.
Feb. 18 will be the trial run.

[Zooksport2]

Isn't all that gonna muck up the tides, phases of the moon, womens menstrual cycle (ok that might be a stretch ) and the seasons?

[Plan9]

Crabzilla haunts me in my sleep.

[cdwonderful]

Originally Posted by Zooksport2

Isn't all that gonna muck up the tides, phases of the moon, womens menstrual cycle (ok that might be a stretch ) and the seasons?

dude, jette knows what he's doing

[Zooksport2]

Look I'm happy to go along. After all, Jets like a god 'round here, but, well.... if it aint broke....... hehehehehe

[BadNick]

sounds like we might not need a new mnemonic ...that sounds strange: new mnemonic new mnemonic... mnemonic device that helps us remember these months since they're all the same except the one 28 odd ball:

27 days has September
October, November, December, too
January, February, March and April
May and June and July, also
But August has 28 and no more
And don't forget the every other year leap year.

Jet, this is just an example. Feel free to change the 28'er to whatever month you choose.

[Ourcrazymodern?]

Originally Posted by cdwonderful

dude, jette knows what he's doing

I would never dispute this
unless I'm unclear on the meaning
of his knowing & doing.

(2x1)+(2x3)=8

[Tophat665]

Sounds like another simplification that will make things more complicated. The thing is, while the relative length of dark and light may vary, the time it takes to make a full rotation is constant, whether you stand at the equator or at a pole. Now, it's true that the farther you get outside the tropics the more variance there will be in the length of the daily light and dark periods, but nevertheless, the circadian rhythm responds to it similarly the world over. You think the day after the daylight savings changes would be bad for traffic? Imagine that happening every day? I remember how hard my mom had to work to get my brother and I to go to bed at a reasonable hour in the summer when it stayed light until 9:30, but imaging how bad it would be if it cycled around all year.

No, a rational calendar would be nice, but this idea has a fundamental flaw.

[BadNick]

Tophat, that's too sensible...not to mention it's the longest sensible post I've read in a long time.