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View Poll Results: Who would win in a fight, a Pirate, Samurai, or Ninja
pirate--samurai--ninja 0 0%
pirate--ninja--samurai 4 9.52%
ninja--pirate--samurai 5 11.90%
ninja--samurai--pirate 20 47.62%
samurai--pirate--ninja 0 0%
samurai--ninja--pirate 13 30.95%
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Old 04-29-2005, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who would win in a fight, Samura, Pirate, or Ninja

My students are being tested by the counselor, my third quarter grades are finalized and posted, and I'm bored out of my skull. So here goes:

This is a debate that has been raging among the boys in my classes for a couple of weeks now. There's no agreeance yet, but the most common result I've heard is that the pirate beats the samurai, but the ninja beats the pirate.

So I'm wondering, who beats who in a fight?

I think it's pretty clear that the samurai beats the ninja, and the ninja takes out the pirate. I mean, pirates may be skilled at sailing and stuff, but a couple of ninja stars or a well placed arrow and it's goodnight baby!

Samura-Ninja-Pirate, no question about it.

What order do you think they'd finish in, first to last?
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Old 04-29-2005, 09:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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well if the pirate had a gun. its game over.
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Old 04-29-2005, 09:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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after watching something on the technology of samurais, i'm going with samurai, ninja, pirate.

samurai armor rivaled that of knights but was even more flexible.

and samurais had guns too...
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Old 04-29-2005, 09:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I disagree there Gilda... I think it's pretty obvious that the ninja would be able to take the samurai, while the samuri could clearly beat the pirate.

Ninjas have stealth, and are trained as assassins, able to kill without even being seen. While the samurai is in honorable and highly trained, their skills could not match those of the ninja.

The pirate's gun would have less effect than you would think. You miss one shot and you're screwed, as you now have to reload the damn thing. Sure, the pirate's ruthless... but can you see him getting through the armor of a samurai? I think not.
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Old 04-29-2005, 09:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Pirates RULE! Not to mention they had better technology and wouldn't fight fair. Pirates of the Caribbean said it perfectly:

Johnny Depp pulls gun/ Orlando Bloom: "You CHEATED!"

Johnny Depp, shaking gun with a no duh look on his face: "Pirate!"

There would be something to be said about stealth, but shooting a ninja from 400 yards with a 9 pound explosive ball isn't going to leave him with much stealth option. Though the entire argument changes based on the environment and circumstances of the encounter. I also say that the ninja would whoop the samurai because they'd meet on land and the samurai would never know the ninja was there.
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Carrot-top would win because he is the best
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Old 04-29-2005, 11:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Cha, the ninja would KICK ASS! Duh! The pirate wouldn't even see the ninja, so how could he shoot him?
Ninjas are master at stealth, so he would take out the samurai and the pirate AT THE SAME TIME! Oh yeah!
And before you say that the pirate is at sea, i'm sure we've all heard of stow aways. Ninjas are masters at being where they shouldn't, so getting on a ship is no problemo.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The pirate wouldn't even stand a chance...and the ninja would tear apart both of them. The Samurai would put up a good fight though.
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Ninja, samurai, pirate.



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Old 04-29-2005, 12:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Come on! Pirates used muzzle loading smooth bore pistols that fired musket balls. They'd be accurate at about a distance of, oh, eight inches or so. The samurai would make a pincushion of the pirate before he could hit the samurai.

Think before you post people. This is a serious discussion of the relative merits of various modes of combat. .
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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A pirate is useless.

So it is just a matter of who would win a fight between a Samurai and a Ninja.

My vote
Ninja - Samurai - Pirate
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Use . . . USELESS!! Being a pirate I take offense to that me harty!! DRAW!! /pulls sword and pistol
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think this is an incomplete discussion. What are the terms of the fight? Daytime? Nighttime? On water? On land? On a boat? With a goat? Each fighting unit has its own strengths and weaknesses that evolved as that particular unit adapted to its environment.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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samurai, ninja, pirate. Looks like pirate is the one who arse is going to be kicked the most so far.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'd put my money on this ol' boy any day:





even if he couldn't beat 'em up, he'd be having them all sing 'We Are Family', within no time.
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Old 04-29-2005, 03:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Impossible to say without more information...

Where does the fight take place?
What time of day is it?
Is surprise a factor?
Do all 3 go at once or is it one at a time...who's first?

For example:
If it's at night and suprise is factor, I'd go with the Ninja.
If it's in the day time, and at sea. The pirate, since he has a boat...the other fuckers would drown eventually.
If its all three going at it at once, the Samurai would win, since he is the only one trained in fighting multiple enemies.
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Old 04-30-2005, 04:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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^^^^ yeah, what the_marq said. i said ninja, samurai, pirate. but i could have just as easily said samurai, ninja, pirate. basically, i think the pirate doesn't stand much of a chance against either one of those other guys.
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Old 04-30-2005, 04:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Ninja!

Especially if it's a flying robot death ninja from the future

Ominous!

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Old 04-30-2005, 09:30 PM   #19 (permalink)
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only a ninja can kill a ninja so thats why its number one and www.maddox.xmission.com is the only pirate that i know that doest take any shit from any one so he would have to be second and the sunrise sammari would be last
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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well if the pirate had a gun. its game over.
Hey, hey. The Ninja's got the moves to dodge bullets with his 'ninja moves'.

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Old 04-30-2005, 11:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hmm. What if the Samurai was The Mandarin, the Ninja was Wolverine, and the Pirate was the Psycho Pirate? Who would win out of those three?

I gotta go with The Mandarin, Wolverine, and Psycho Pirate in that order. The Mandarin is badass enough to take on all of the Avengers by himself, and the Psycho Pirate's main attack is mental, which would mean that .

But how about The Silver Samurai, Deadly Little Mijo, and The Tatooed Man? Gotta go with Silver, Mijo, and Tatooed Dude.

Yep, still gonna have to say Samura, Ninja, Pirate.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Hold on there! According to googlefight, it's Ninja, Pirate, Samurai! Ninjas are almost more than the other two put together though.

Stats:

Ninja: 12,700,000
Pirate: 6,940,000
Samurai: 5,780,000 results

I think we can thus see that the ninjas are by far the best!

Source: Googlefight!
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Old 05-01-2005, 04:49 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Hmm, putting an anime twist on this...

Naruto crew vs One Piece crew vs Jin and Mugen from Samurai Champloo

Special powers aside and going on pure fighting skill, who's going to come out tops? My vote's on the Champloo lot

Just because I've also reached the boredom event horizon, plus this thread was asking for it.
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Old 05-01-2005, 05:08 AM   #24 (permalink)
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From what I know of pirates they don't travel alone..they travel in groups and ambush..nor do they fight fair. Ninjas go either way, alone or with company and are indeed stealth. Samourai are proud. More than likely they will fight face to face with no surprises. Samourai to my knowledge were exceptional with a sword and would probably slaughter both the pirate and the ninja if face to face, blade to blade.

Definitely hard to tell because circumstances would have to be specified but this is a kids poll and the way kids think they think all of them at the same time, face to face, in an arena of some sort lol. With a referee, crowd and everything. So given those circumstances as they seem the most likely a child would come up with I'd go with the original wager of Samourai, Ninja, Pirate.

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Old 05-01-2005, 06:29 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You all are way to fixated on ninjas. Samurai were much more deadly than ninja one on one. (<i>Shogun</i> notwithstanding, pirates really aren't even worth mentioning.) The stealth skill of a master ninja opposed to the awareness of a master samurai would be a very, very hard call to make, and I have no basis for calling it one way or the other, so surprise is a toss up. Unarmed and unarmored, their martial arts skill would also be about equal, but, on the average, the samurai would be stronger (wearing armor will do that to you). So that's an incremental advantage.

It really does come down to the kind of fight, though. In a stand up fight, an individual ninja would present a Samurai a challenge on the same order of magnitude as a daikon. In a long running feud, where all that matters is who's alive at the end, the nod oges to the ninja, but the samurai would reduce them to a lone savage hunted by all before the ninja finally garrotted the samurai on his tatami. I mean, the samurai would, if threatened, think nothing of totally depopulating the ninja's district and burning all the towns to the ground. I have no doubt that the Samurai would eventually be assassinated, but the cost would be horrible unless the ninja got very, very lucky.
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Old 05-03-2005, 01:42 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Ninjas are trained for assassination. They're good for surprise attacks and escaping. I'd also expect a ninja to be quicker on his feet.

Samurai are trained for combat. With multiple people, no less. The rigorous training of a samurai teaches him that there can be no mistakes. Every sword strike must count, and misteps will cost your life. Samurais also developed techniques to combat firearms when their era was waning.

Pirates are trained... well, they train themselves to fight as dirty as possible. Where ninjas and samurai follow codes of honor, pirates will not. However, I doubt very many pirates are expertly trained. This would be their downfall.

I would say that pirates come in at last place unless it's something like 50 to 1 (piraty strategies). Then it depends on other conditions for samurai versus ninja. What would make this even better is if you added somebody trained in a Western sword art like fencing.
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Old 05-03-2005, 03:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Samurai... Ninja... Pirate

Pirates are just bar fighters. They might get lucky but let's face it they'd rather be drinking rum

Ninja. Stealth but in a toe to toe fight they could beat a pirate but no way they could take a Samurai.

Samurai... superior armour, guns and wicked sword that would cleave a pirate's skull not to mention a pirate's inferior blade...


Now if that Pirate happened to be Half Cocked Jack Shaftoe... there is no question that I would put Pirate at the top of that list...
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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True enough, Charlatan, but remember, Half Cocked Jack had a Samurai as part of his crew.

Slavakion, funny you should mention the western trained weapons expert. Just today, I ran across a link that discusses at extreme length why a fight between a medieval knight and a samurai is an undecidable proposition, and, poking around that site, found another essay regarding a fight between a samurai and an italian renaissance fencer, but, since the knight/samurai essay is quite exhaustive, I didn't have time to read the fencer/samurai essay. It might actually be germane to the samurai vs. pirate debate, though. They're at the Association for Renaissance Martial Arts web page at <a href="http://www.thearma.org/">http://www.thearma.org/</a>, in the Articles and Essays section.

Direct links to: <a href="http://www.thearma.org/essays/knightvs.htm">Knight vs Samurai</a> and <a href="http://www.thearma.org/essays/katanavs.htm">Katana vs Rapier</a>
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