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bookiebye · 12-01-2004, 06:07 PM

George W. Bush has been elected the President of the United States of America. He is the President of U.S.A. For tis alone he deserves the respect of the people of the world. I can only imagine what accomplishments had to be made and how much work was involved to get to the position he holds today. It seems to me that he has many convictions that he is determined to fight for. Whether these convictions come from outside influences or within, most of us can only speculate. And as far as I'm concerned, irrelevant. At least he has the balls to be doing something, rather than just talking about it. Sure, he is pissing some people off in the process but you will never be able to appease the entire population with a single course of action. He was elected by a clear majority of the American population to make the tough decisions for the citizens of the U.S. His tactics and policies may not always be well liked but the changes are evident and the benifits are clear.

I spent the early part of Wednesday afternoon walking throughout the downtown area of Halifax and I have to say it was quite a sight.The preperation, execution and protests were evident througout the downtown core. From excitement to indifference, and everything in between. Even the protesters had a little party on Spring Garden Road, after they performed a mock trial putting President Bush on trial for war crimes (which for some reason there was no representative for the defense).but hey it was "better than sitting in class all day".(heard it with my own ears)

Bottom line a presidential state visit to Halifax is a good thing for Halifax.

silent_jay · 12-01-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

I can't believe I am out of country while all this is going on... such fun. I can say, that none of this has made the news in Singapore... and I haven't seen anything on CNN yet...

Shitty Charlatan, then you missed Carolyn Parrish on CNN with Wolf Blitzer and that asshole Tucker Carlson. Carolyn gave it to Carlson again another brow beating for that little idiot, I wish she would have chocked the shit out of him. Its been a rough few weeksa for Carlson first Jon Stewart makes him his bitch on Crossfire and calls him a dick and then he gets brow beaten by an independant Canadian MP. Good job Mrs. Parrish, the woman alone is reinstalling my confidence in Canadian Politicians.

scotchandwater · 12-02-2004, 07:17 AM

I heard that Bush only showed up here to get his flu shot.

Charlatan · 12-02-2004, 07:40 AM

Anyone have transcripts of Parrish taking it to Tucker? That would be good for a laugh.

splck · 12-02-2004, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

Anyone have transcripts of Parrish taking it to Tucker? That would be good for a laugh.

Here you go..

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BLITZER: Now this Canadian lawmaker is raising eyebrows again. She will join us live. Also, one of the deadliest months yet for U.S. forces in Iraq. Why the cost of American lives is surging.

And a life or death decision process beginning in the final phase of the Scott Peterson murder trial. Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BLITZER: Will President Bush mend that long fence along the 49th Parallel?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BUSH: I want to thank the Canadian people who came out to wave with all five fingers.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: He has his work cut out for him. Joining us now from Ottawa is the Canadian parliament member, Carolyn Paris. She was expelled from the Liberal Party for what Prime Minister Martin called "unacceptable behavior," which included a recent stomping of the George W. Bush doll. And here in Washington, Tucker Carlson, he is the Canada-baiting co-host of CNN's "CROSSFIRE." He has suggested that our northern neighbor, in his words, is a third-rate country. We'll get to Tucker in a moment. Let's begin with Carolyn Parrish.

Thanks very much for joining us. We're going to show our viewers that picture of you stomping that George W. Bush doll. What were you trying to prove?

PARRISH: Actually, I was making fun of myself. We have a program up here called "This Hour Has 22 Minutes." And they love to get politicians to do bizarre things, like put rollers in their hair and jump into bed with strange people. And they kept giving me direction and I kept following it.

BLITZER: So, you apologize for that?

PARRISH: Nope.

BLITZER: Why not?

PARRISH: Because I was making fun of myself. It was a parody on me and my anti-Bush position. And if you can't make fun of yourself in this business, then it's time to get out of it.

BLITZER: What about the sound bite that -- we'll play it right now. I want you to listen to what you said about this coalition the president has been trying to put together.

PARRISH: I've heard it before.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PARRISH: We are not joining the coalition of the idiots.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLITZER: All right. Give us the context of that.

PARRISH: Well, I was speaking to a large crowd on the steps of the House of Commons. There were a lot of people there protesting against Canada's joining missile defense and I happened to agree with them. General Gard (ph) came up from the States, representing 48 former military people, and I had spoken with him about it. We also had Professor Postal (ph) from MIT telling us this isn't going to work. And I think it is an increase to weaponization of space. I think it's a very bad idea. And the coalition of idiots I was referring to I think were mostly the politicians in my own government.

BLITZER: All right. So you don't consider President Bush an idiot?

PARRISH: No. How could he rise to the top job in the country by being an idiot?

BLITZER: Tucker Carlson, what do you think of this latest twist in the U.S.-Canadian relationship?

TUCKER CARLSON, CO-HOST, "CROSSFIRE": Oh, well, I mean, it's part of an ongoing sort of battle that the U.S. doesn't really participate in. I think you get the sense that Canadians think much more about the United States than the United States thinks about Canada.

I think, you know, Canadians are nice people, it's a nice country, but it's a country in the grip of a national insecurity complex. Canada needs the United States for trade, for a lot of reasons. Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting. And I think that that makes Canadians -- the dependence that Canada has on the United States makes Canadians understandably resentful.

BLITZER: Carolyn Parrish, those are fighting words.

PARRISH: Oh Tucker, you're way out to lunch on this one, my friend. Most of the top six things you buy from us are raw materials: hydro, gas, oil. You need us more than we need you.

CARLSON: We exploit your natural resources, that's true. But in the end, Canadians with ambition move to the United States. That has been sort of the trend for decades. It says something not very good about Canada. And I think it makes Canadians feel bad about themselves and I understand that. PARRISH: No. I don't agree with you, Tucker. I think Canadians who have a good social conscience and are more European in their outlook live here quite happily.

CARLSON: I bet.

PARRISH: Those who want to make huge bucks and not worry about where they're coming from go to the States. And we're glad to be rid of them.

CARLSON: Well, with that attitude, no wonder they leave. I concede that.

PARRISH: No wonder.

BLITZER: What is the attitude now, Carolyn Parrish, in Canada, President Bush has been re-elected, there's a bigger Republican majority in the House as well as in the Senate, has there been an accommodation, if you will? Are Canadians ready to accept this American president?

PARRISH: Listen. We accept the democratic process. And that was why I was interviewed the day after the election. And I said the people of the United States have clearly spoken. I think this was a non-controverted result and I think as good neighbors, we will wait patiently for another four years.

BLITZER: I was in Ottawa 10 years ago or so, then-President Clinton spoke before the parliament.

PARRISH: Yes, he did.

BLITZER: He was pretty warmly received. You noticed this time, Tucker and Carolyn, the president of the United States is not speaking before the parliament in Ottawa. Carolyn Parrish, why is that?

PARRISH: I think Mr. Clinton shared a lot of our values. He talked about Medicare and he talked about banning weapons. He said that he envied us our gun laws. So he was more simpatico with the Canadian people. And he was very warmly received. He's a very terrific guy?

BLITZER: Would you have heckled President Bush had he come into the parliament?

PARRISH: Absolutely -- no, no, no. I'm not a heckler. I don't heckle anybody.

BLITZER: Would your colleagues have heckled him?

PARRISH: I don't think so either. I think the reason Mr. Bush didn't address the parliament is was they were having a hard time finding common ground that he could talk about. We do not support the war in Iraq. We are not impressed with 100,000 dead Iraqis. We're not impressed with 1,000 dead American soldiers. So, what would be the basis of the conversation? We couldn't solve softwood lumber in a speech in the House of Commons. We couldn't solve the beef problem. So there was no common ground for a speech.

(CROSSTALK)

BLITZER: What about -- Tucker, I was going to say to you, what does it say that the president of the United States on an official state visit to Canada, the first time in a decade, doesn't address the parliament?

CARLSON: Well, you know, he doesn't want to get heckled. That's right. I'm glad to hear Ms. Parrish is not a heckler, merely a person who stomps on dolls. You've got to have standards. And I appreciate yours. No, look. Just simply because the United States and Canada disagree about the war in Iraq and they do doesn't mean they can't have productive conversations. I mean, the United States and China talk about all sorts of things. We're major trading partners. And I think in the end, it only hurts Canada, these attacks on the United States. Again, just to restate a pretty obvious point that I know is foremost on your mind, Ms. Parrish, Canada needs the United States. The United States does not need Canada. But you need us. And so to alienate our administration is probably not such a good idea.

PARRISH: Tucker, that's a really bad attitude, my friend...

CARLSON: It's true.

PARRISH: I think we need each other. I think we have got a long-term trade partnership. I think both countries benefit from that partnership. And when you say to us, we don't need you, that's not a way to make friends...

CARLSON: In fact, it's not even a value judgment, it's simply a recognition of economic reality. Of course it's good for the United States to trade with Canada, but it's vital for Canada to trade with the United States. So you gain nothing by alienating the administration.

PARRISH: It's pretty vital for California to take our hydro-oil (ph). I think it would be dark the next day. I think this is not a productive conversation. I think we're long-term friends, we are long-term trade partners. And we will weather this recent storm. We are fundamentally opposed to might is right and brute force and preemptive attacks on other countries. That's fundamental in Canada.

CARLSON: Well, you have the benefit of being protected by the United States and you can say that. But I think if Canada were responsible for its own security -- you would be invaded by Norway if it weren't for the United States and so you...

PARRISH: We're a very secure nation because we haven't ticked off the rest of the world. We march with the world. We're not out of step.

BLITZER: Tucker, don't you believe that this 3,000-mile border that the United States shares with Canada that it's imperative that the U.S. has a friendly ally on the other side?

CARLSON: Oh, of course. In the end, the countries are friendly. There are some French politicians who get something out of...

BLITZER: But when you say the United States doesn't need Canada, the United States has a 3,000-mile border with Canada.

CARLSON: My only point is as a matter of trade, Canada is far more dependent on the U.S. than the U.S. is on Canada. That's simply a fact, again, not even a value judgment. But of course the United States needs a good relationship with Canada and I suspect it will always have one unless some separatist government comes to power and the country splits into two, which is always possible. But short of that, no, absolutely the countries will remain allies and there will always be politicians who see it to their benefit to stomp on Bush dolls. But no, I don't think the average Canadian feels -- the average Canadian is busy dogsledding. You know that.

PARRISH: That is such -- that's such a caricature and you have to understand from this lowly backbencher that shouldn't even be on your show, I am of total insignificance within my own party and within the country, you're sure putting up a lot of fuss and putting a lot of attention on this. It shows a very weak ego, in my opinion. I think if you're as strong as you say you are, anything I have got to say can't hurt you.

BLITZER: I will point out to our viewers as well as to Carolyn Parrish that Tucker Carlson often speaks with tongue in cheek. Is that a fair assessment, Tucker? Just want to make sure our viewers don't literally believe that every word that you're saying.

CARLSON: I don't think every Canadian is dogsledding at all times but I do think there's a lot of dogsledding in Canada. Yes, I do think that's true.

PARRISH: Very little, my friend.

CARLSON: You know that's true, Carolyn. (UNINTELLIGIBLE). But there's a lot of dogsledding.

PARRISH: No, there's not a lot of dogsledding. There's a lot of dog walking, my friend. Not a lot of dogsledding.

CARLSON: Welcome to our century.

BLITZER: There's some dogsledding in the United States as well, including the beautiful state of Alaska. Tucker Carlson speaking tongue in cheek sometimes, not always. Sometimes.

Carolyn Parrish, you're an important guest. All of our guests are important. Thanks very much for joining us.

PARRISH: Thank you, Wolf. I've enjoyed it. Thank you, Tucker.

CARLSON: Thanks. Thanks a lot, Carolyn. See you in Canada.

PARRISH: Yep.

BLITZER: U.S.-Canadian relations, a very, very important subject to all of our viewers, both south and north of the U.S. border.

I love this quote..

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BUSH: I want to thank the Canadian people who came out to wave with all five fingers.

splck · 12-02-2004, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bookiebye

George W. Bush has been elected the President of the United States of America. He is the President of U.S.A. For tis alone he deserves the respect of the people of the world.

He deseves the respect of the world? Sorry, one has to earn respect in my book. I can respect the office of the president to a degree, but not the person.

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Originally Posted by bookiebye

I can only imagine what accomplishments had to be made and how much work was involved to get to the position he holds today.

You're saying that tongue in cheek right?

Yakk · 12-02-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bookiebye

George W. Bush has been elected the President of the United States of America. He is the President of U.S.A. For tis alone he deserves the respect of the people of the world.

Quite seriously, being President of the United States of America means you deserve fear. Fear is in many ways similar to respect, but it isn't the same thing.

You have to earn respect.

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I can only imagine what accomplishments had to be made and how much work was involved to get to the position he holds today. It seems to me that he has many convictions that he is determined to fight for. Whether these convictions come from outside influences or within, most of us can only speculate. And as far as I'm concerned, irrelevant. At least he has the balls to be doing something, rather than just talking about it.

The balls to do something isn't a virtue I care about. It makes you more of what you are, it doesn't make you better.

Having the balls to kill someone is a good thing if the person needed killing. Having the balls to go to war is a good thing if the war needed doing.

Bush will do what he will do. Reason, logic, changing circumstances, hell, nor high water will get in his way.

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Sure, he is pissing some people off in the process but you will never be able to appease the entire population with a single course of action.

Appease is such an ugly word.

Appeasing the radical right with tax cuts, justified first by a large surplus -- when that reason became bumpkus, then as a short-term economic stimulus -- when that reason became bumpkus, then as a long-term economic stimulus.

Appeasing the radical right with a war, first to attack a state that supports Al'Queda -- when that reason became bumpkus, then to attack a state working on nuclear weapons -- when that reason became bumpkus, and then to overthrow an evil dictator.

Putting forestry company executives in charge of a plan to make healthier forests by having forestry companies cut down more forests.

Putting oil executives in charge of a plan to move to alternative energy sources, by drilling for more oil.

Again and again and again, the radical right in the USA has lied about why it is doing what it is doing. It has also told the truth.

The war in Iraq is in order to generate an American miltitary empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
This project is signed off by the vice president, the secritary of defence, and if I remember correctly, the current secritary of state. They knew Iraq didn't have nukes and wasn't conntected to Al'Queda, but they where convienient excuses. The only thing that stayed constant was 'we will attack Iraq'. And this has been on the agenda since 1992.

The tax cuts exist as a step to completely dismatle the american welfare state. Taxes on capital investments and inheritance will be completely removed -- it is an explicit attempt to increase the divide between the ownership caste and the worker caste. If you aren't rich, you should either join a church or political party which will feed you, or starve. The radical right is open in its wish to dismantle social security, welfare, and unemployment insurance. The excuses put forward at any one time are but excuses -- they want tax cut on the rich for the sake of tax cuts, not to stimulate the economy, return surplusses, or anything else.

The radical right doesn't hold with the structures of American Democracy. People who politely disagree with them are called traitors. Political checks and balances that get in their way are to be dismantled. Elections that are riggable should be rigged, because they believe they are on a holy mission.

The radical right is a revolutionary force. If you disagree with them, they'll attack you -- even to the point of threatening your life, as with the CIA operative whose cover they blew. Their objectives aren't limited. They aren't aiming for a reduction welfare, they aren't trying to reduce environmental requirements -- they want to completely rebuild the government.

I believe the radical right now. Not what they say on a day to day basis, but their core beliefs. They aren't aiming for limited success.

Kissinger: "It is the essence of a revolutionary power that it possesses the courage of its convictions, that it is willing, indeed eager, to push its principles to their ultimate conclusion."

Fuck appeasement.

If you know that voting machines can be hacked, don't just whine about it. Hack the god damn machines so your side will win. If your opponents are hacking them, they sure as hell won't fix the machines, and they can accuse of you having a tin foil hat on. Prove that it can be done.

If your opponents are willing to spend the country into debt, call them on it, and then play chicken. Put forward a bill to increase military baseline salaries by 20%-50% -- after all, they are putting their lives on the line. If your opponents are appointing judges without senate approval by using the 'emergency recess appointment' provisions, use loopholes back.

The radical right isn't "playing politics". They mean war, and they fight dirty.

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He was elected by a clear majority of the American population to make the tough decisions for the citizens of the U.S. His tactics and policies may not always be well liked but the changes are evident and the benifits are clear.

An economy whose greatest achievement was an inventory bounce?

A war with 100,000 people dead?

Higher levels of terrorism than the world has ever seen?

A uniter who has managed to polarize the American people like never before? (ok, Lincon and the American Civil War divided the American people more)

Government balance books that look like a teenager with her first credit card?

A military facing a manpower shortage?

A huge trade deficit?

A currency with nowhere to go but down?

Squandering the largest outpouring of goodwill towards America since WWII with a preemptive attack on Iraq, whose official justification turned out to be a pack of lies?

Don't get me wrong. I'm far to afraid of the American radical right to seriously propose a nuclear weapons program in Canada, so the earlier posts I made on the subject where actually in jest.

But don't expect me to respect the US president. He has earned my fear. He has not earned my respect.

edit: my seplling is terrible

Janey · 12-02-2004, 09:11 AM

[QUOTE=silent_jay]I think by Janey's location he lives in Toronto, unless you meant the West end of Toronto then disregard what I just typed.

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as i look down at my burgundy blouse, and black skirt, and not badly formed figure for a little chinee person, I'm glad that I'm not a 'he'.

just razzing you jay... maybe your fingers mistyped. I do live in Toronto, but settled in the Beaches area. reminds me a bit of Kitsilano.

Pierre, I was mortified when I read your post and apologized profusely for having a pickle up my ass (and I don't mean in a good way...). so yes, definitely friends, pLease

silent_jay · 12-02-2004, 11:12 AM

Sorry Janey, I was contemplating putting the he/she in my post but thought I had it all figured out.

vox_rox · 12-02-2004, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Janey

Pierre, I was mortified when I read your post and apologized profusely for having a pickle up my ass (and I don't mean in a good way...). so yes, definitely friends, pLease

Firstly, I knew you were a her, just didn't know the specifics. Thanks for the run down of the attire, I think I have the picture now, mentally anyway.

I did, ohwever have th elocation wrong. I thought you lived in Vancouver, and maybe I got that misconception from the "beaches" thing. So know I understand more completely why my little barb stung as it did. Still, it was only in fun, and I do apologize.

And, yes, friends of course. I was failrly cedrtain that you were not referring to me, but having recently graduated from university, I am acutely aware of sentences possessing misplaced modifiers, and sometimes I find them interesting and funny.

Anyway, if you ever want to "barb" me back, don't forget that I live in Calgary Alberta, that should be fodder enough for the lampoon mill to work with. Sometimes I just wake up mortified to live here. I wish it wasn't so beautiful and so close to the mountians, it would make it easier to say good-bye to Ralphie, but I digress.

Take care, Peace,

Pierre

Janey · 12-02-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by silent_jay

Sorry Janey, I was contemplating putting the he/she in my post but thought I had it all figured out.

as a race, we are inscrutable aren't we? even so, there's a thread in here (I think inmembers playground) where people post ids for those members for whom they've mistaken their gender...

So to you and vox,

I am currently living in toronto (which i love) but grew up in Vancouver. I went to Queen's so I know Kingston, and have had many intimate moments in Montreal and Ottawa (mckill mcgill, and what the fuck is a Gee Gee?). So that's my brief geographical bio.

vox, you would have loved my barb in a (much ) earlier post, comparing Ralph Klein to Mel Lastman.....

:>

vox_rox · 12-02-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Janey

as a race, we are inscrutable aren't we? even so, there's a thread in here (I think inmembers playground) where people post ids for those members for whom they've mistaken their gender...

There is something that would be a hoot. But as I said in the other thread regarding the smatrcard, I have no access to the personal forums and, as such, cannot take part

. Alas.

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Originally Posted by Janey

I am currently living in toronto (which i love) but grew up in Vancouver. I went to Queen's so I know Kingston, and have had many intimate moments in Montreal and Ottawa (mckill mcgill, and what the fuck is a Gee Gee?). So that's my brief geographical bio.

Yup, read the bio when I realized that I may have something to make you mad, which I did not want to do. As it turns out, everything is cool, but I still read the bio. By the way, I was born and raised in Ottawa, but spent a LOT of timein both TO and Montreal. I love Montreal, too bad it's in quebec where politics are so diseased or I'd live there!

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vox, you would have loved my barb in a (much ) earlier post, comparing Ralph Klein to Mel Lastman.....

:>

Oh, maybe I'll see if I can dredge that one up. The Lastman era was a classic tale of politics turned theatre, never a dull moment, even thousands of km's away! Thanks for the chuckle Jane, I appreciate it!

Peace,

Pierre

hiro-acid · 12-03-2004, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by yakk

One beef problem is we don't have the beef processing capabilities in Canada. We ship live beef to the USA to get processed.

Thanks for the sound byte, but that's an over-simplification of the industry.

The Canadian and American beef industries are interrelated on so many levels it's not really accurate or meaningful to separate the two and attempt to distinguish between them. Prior to the border closing the wide-spread and standard operation involved American cattle being shipped to Canada for "finishing" (6 months to 2 years of growth) and then shipped back for processing (due again primarily to economic reasons, ie: cheaper over-all labour costs when proximity to market factors are taken into consideration). There are few Americans actually in favour of the border closing, those that are being the producers directly benefiting from it, but it is hurting the American packers substantially as you've got nearly two year's worth of cattle sitting up here they won't be receiving to process.

As someone living on the prairies I can tell you that you won't hear of another BSE case in Canda again, not if anyone in the industry has any chance of covering it up.. no one can afford the economic realities it would bring to bear, far easier just to dig a hole and bury it.

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The war in Iraq is in order to generate an American military empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
This project is signed off by the vice president, the secretary of defense, and if I remember correctly, the current secretary of state. They knew Iraq didn't have nukes and wasn't connected to Al'Queda, but they where convenient excuses. The only thing that stayed constant was 'we will attack Iraq'. And this has been on the agenda since 1992.

Great site btw, nice to see I'm not the only one who reads it..

But the point I wanted to bring up is that Iraq has been a target far longer than since 1992. If you consider George H. W. Bush was director of the CIA during the period in the 1970s in which America began moving weapons back to his dictatorship, obstensively under the guise of fighting the Iranians, I think a more clear picture of the agenda develops: stage 1) install/support a puppet dictatorship in an oil-rich country, 2) create a situation in which said dictator is now a "threat" and must be removed, 3) remove dictator and keep troops in country for as long as possible to protect "democracy", and you've got the basic vision.. and really, it didn't take that long, a mere 25 years from having no easily controllable oil-source in the middle-east (the Saudis are anything but easily controlled, as Osama and his 9/11 buddies have shown) to having what might as well be described as a domestic supply-chain. I'm sure the history books of the 2500s will write it this way at least..

Hey splck, thanks for the transcript.. I hate Tucker Carson. He always seems to me to suffering from a gross case of over-compensation brought on by an inferiority complex (never ceases to amaze me how many people in the "greatest" country and lone super-power suffer from this problem, see: America & Guns, America & SUVs, America & <insert random item here>). Anyways, nice to see him bitchslapped again (I'll have to search the torrents for an AVI.. the Jon Stewart one was hilarious, especially when he called him to task on being a corporate/media troll

).

Good posts all, nice discussion.. keep it up.

silent_jay · 12-03-2004, 03:43 PM

I tried finding a clip of the show, but haven't been able too so far, tried all the usual avenues, hopefully a site has it somewhere, I want to see it again.

Have I mentioned I love Carolyn Parrish yet?

12-01-2004, 06:07 PM	#41 (permalink)
bookiebye Upright	George W. Bush has been elected the President of the United States of America. He is the President of U.S.A. For tis alone he deserves the respect of the people of the world. I can only imagine what accomplishments had to be made and how much work was involved to get to the position he holds today. It seems to me that he has many convictions that he is determined to fight for. Whether these convictions come from outside influences or within, most of us can only speculate. And as far as I'm concerned, irrelevant. At least he has the balls to be doing something, rather than just talking about it. Sure, he is pissing some people off in the process but you will never be able to appease the entire population with a single course of action. He was elected by a clear majority of the American population to make the tough decisions for the citizens of the U.S. His tactics and policies may not always be well liked but the changes are evident and the benifits are clear. I spent the early part of Wednesday afternoon walking throughout the downtown area of Halifax and I have to say it was quite a sight.The preperation, execution and protests were evident througout the downtown core. From excitement to indifference, and everything in between. Even the protesters had a little party on Spring Garden Road, after they performed a mock trial putting President Bush on trial for war crimes (which for some reason there was no representative for the defense).but hey it was "better than sitting in class all day".(heard it with my own ears) Bottom line a presidential state visit to Halifax is a good thing for Halifax. __________________ Get it done!

12-02-2004, 07:17 AM	#43 (permalink)
scotchandwater Upright	I heard that Bush only showed up here to get his flu shot. __________________ Got to keep the looneys on the path.

12-02-2004, 07:40 AM	#44 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Anyone have transcripts of Parrish taking it to Tucker? That would be good for a laugh. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

12-02-2004, 11:12 AM	#49 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	Sorry Janey, I was contemplating putting the he/she in my post but thought I had it all figured out. __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

12-03-2004, 03:43 PM	#54 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	I tried finding a clip of the show, but haven't been able too so far, tried all the usual avenues, hopefully a site has it somewhere, I want to see it again. Have I mentioned I love Carolyn Parrish yet? __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

12-02-2004, 09:11 AM	#48 (permalink)
Janey Junkie Location: Toronto	[QUOTE=silent_jay]I think by Janey's location he lives in Toronto, unless you meant the West end of Toronto then disregard what I just typed. QUOTE] as i look down at my burgundy blouse, and black skirt, and not badly formed figure for a little chinee person, I'm glad that I'm not a 'he'. just razzing you jay... maybe your fingers mistyped. I do live in Toronto, but settled in the Beaches area. reminds me a bit of Kitsilano. Pierre, I was mortified when I read your post and apologized profusely for having a pickle up my ass (and I don't mean in a good way...). so yes, definitely friends, pLease