And then there was Carolyn Parrish
 

As a good Canadian, I usually try not to focus on our intellectual lightweights perse, especially those politically bound, but this takes the cake. Somewhere Sheilla Copps (another intellectual lightweight) is laughing her ass off.

I'm not.

As a proud Canadian I am embarrassed. Andy Warhol said everyone deserves their 15 minutes. Carolyn Parrish deserves to be,...I won't say it,..might offend some of the deep rooted Canadian bleeding hearts,...but she deserves to be atleast FIRED.

It won't happen though. Anti-Americanism is very chic these days in Canada, the supposed "best country in the world" and,... very en vogue to boot, certainly when slamming the ONLY superpower left in the world who happen to be THE country we most rely on for our basic survival.

Let all of us collectively slander those bastard Americans. It's hip. It's the IN thing. Com'n y'all,..you can do it. Let's be as ignorant of our friends and neighbours as we can be. Afterall,..WE'RE CANADIAN,..WE'RE FUCKING SPECIAL.

Maybe Carolyn Parrish needs a good,..............I won't say it. Might offend some of you fucking gentlemen asshole bleeding heart, fucking Canadians out there.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Ottawa...27/603922.html

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio..._pm040826.html


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bush is a fuckwad

It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

I think she's a complete idiot herself but, at least she's being honest about how she sees the Bush Administration. You have to admit it gives people something to talk about, so it's not so bad. I also agree that Canada should avoid getting in bed with Bush on anything especially weapons in Space that other countries won't have. This is the Cold War all over again.

Admit it, "Proud Canadians" like you would've gotten us into the Iraq war if you had your way. No doubt you're against same-sex marriage, legal cannabis and everything else that Bush doesn't like about us. Let me be the first to say thank fucking christ you're confined to little messageboards and not the real world. Go buy Stephen Harper a beer if you can find him.

I want to also point out that there's a difference between disagreeing with the Bush government and hating the American people. I have relatives in the states and have traveled in there plenty of times. 90% of the people I've ever met there have been nothing but kind towards me. It's an amazing country and we're lucky to have them as trading partners. I just wish they'd keep their politics on their side of the fence.

Anti-Bush? YES
Anti-American? NO

It's incredible how one using their right to free speech makes them a target. Its incredible how, since I disagree with you, I must be an asshole bleeding heart. Whats most incredible of all, is you assume that because she's against the missile defence shield she's anti-American. She never once made an anti-American comment, she made an anti-Bush/Anti-Missile defense shield comment.

Whats more, she will be held accountable for her actions. By the electorate in her riding. Thats the way democracy works. As someone who lived in Stockwell Day's riding, I can completely understand what it is like living with an elected representative who speaks before they think.

I have much respect for the Americans. I strongly disagree with many of their policies, and I do not agree with the missile defense shield. Does this make me Anti-American? Or I'm sorry, was it the "Coalition of the Idiots" comment? That again is not anti-American. Misguided and perhaps not the most eloquent way to say your thoughts, but still not Anti-American.

I think maybe you're melding two subjects into one here mate. Parrish may be against an American policy, but thats not anti-American, nor are the people that agree with her

I agree with Antikarma in that you kind of phrased your statement so that if we dont agree with you then we're "fucking gentlemen asshole bleeding heart, fucking Canadians"

I disagree with so many of Bush's programs and policies that it almost seems like I'm anti-Bush... but the thing is, if he ever did something half-way sane, logical, or with valid reason, then I'd give it support

She has the right to make comments on how she feels.. its a little thing called free speech... If we all just said what everyone wanted us to say then we'd be living in a self defeating society, where no new ideas would emerge.

Well, you have to ask yourself,

"What good came of Ms. Parrish's remarks?"

Answer - None.

She's entitled to her opinion, sure.

And I also think that BMD is a complete waste of money, and probably won't work anyway. Never the less, her choice of the word "Idiots" in combination with her previoius comments something to the effect of "Americans, I hate the bastards" is nothing but bad news.

She should use her head before she speaks in such an inflamitory fashion.

No good will come of her remarks.

If you had an American politician saying similar stuff, ok, wait, there was Strom Thurmon and Jesse Helms I forgot, then all that "Canada is a terrrorist haven" stuff.

sigh

and them being pissed we didnt follow them into iraq

Everywhere I look I keep seeing this same phenomenon occuring. That is; if you don't like George W you must hate the United States.

The Republiucans have tried to paint Al Franken and M Moore and a whole host of their other detractors with that brush for the last 4+ years. It's just really sad that anyone who dissents against the gov't (even a minor league Canadian politican) is made out to be tantamount to a terrorist.

Question your government, that's the fucking point . If Ms. Parrish manages to get relected then I guess she's not alone in thinking Mr. Bush is a knob. I know I agree with her.

If only the above were true. In the past federal election she was elected by a clear majority again.

Her riding is Mississauga-Erindale, my parents live in that riding and I live in the riding beside it.

Everyone who I talked to who voted for her claim that they had to vote while holding their nose, but they wanted Martin in, and had to give liberals the vote.

That is the problem with our system, we have to vote for the party and not the candidate.

I think I'd prefer to vote for the prime-minister seperately like in the states.

you have captured my feelings exactly. thank you.now to add one of my own. maybe we should be relying less on american trade and fostering better trade relations with other countries so that we wouldn't be catching a cold every time america sneezes.let's stop being so lazy and dependent on easy cross- border trade.also we would and should push back when America tries to impose their paternalistic and arrogant business practices on us re;the ban on beef,and the softwood lumber duties.i feel better now .potatoman

Back from vacation. Couldn't have been better. Shot 78 off the tips for the first time. Yeah baby.

My apologies to all offended. Admittedly 50% of me didn't want to push "Submit Reply" but the other 50% said 'yeah, do it.'

Lot's of people were wrong about Iraq. CNN has it at 51/49% for either and or. Same sex? My sister is gay. Pot? Smoke it all the time, favour de-criminalization across the board. I'm also areligious, go figure. As for the real world, tour dates will be confirmed later in the month. How many times have you been around the world? Sorry, that goes against my meditation/relaxation/visualization treatments a little chinese man is teaching me. Sorry again.

Diplomacy is a natural extension of character. It's not hard to do. Hopefully Ms. Parrish's comments went under the radar. I'm not a fan of George Bush either. I'd laugh at his gaffs too if they didn't scare the shit out of me so much. Either way, the point is that elected officials who represent this country should respect the office that appoints them through democratic processes, first as representatives of our country and secondly as citizens of this country.

But in the end, does it really matter?

without prejudice:

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Actually the first time that she got noticed in this manner (it must have been minutes 1 through 4 of her 15 minute allotment) she managed to call "Americans" in general bastards, and claimed that she hated them. sounds fairly anti-American to me.

Having said (typed) that, would like to point out that I do not agree 100% with UFKUO, and support that (most American of) instution "free Speech". Let Ms Parrish sink or swim according to her ustilization of the fine weapon of free speech.

During the meanwhile, I dislike being lumped into just one camp or another simply just because i don't agree 100% with what UFKUO posted. It sounds very much like the 'you're either with us or against us' statement of Mr. McCArthy. ooops I mean Bush.

A little off topic, but maybe Carolyn Parrish can hold a Liberal Party luncheon and invite and thank those " bastard and moronic 'coalition of idiots' Americans" that pulled a piece a shit submarine back to safety. If I heard right the Americans acted before being formally involved in the rescue. Those fucking bastards. But if more sailors died and the U.S didn't do squat,..well the roof would fall in.

Actually while our PM made an official speech to U.K delegates he only thanked the British and not the Americans. At least I didn't hear him mention it.He must just have been a bit nervous. Knowing my party's complete neglect of military support for a decade I would be nervous too. Perhaps even feel in part responsible. Nah,..whose gonna care tomorrow.

OFKU0

Maybe it makes up for America not fucking thanking us for taking in ALL THOSE PLANES after Sept. 11 when all air traffic was grounded... GWB didn't fire us a thank you for that...

America is a great country. Sure they are rough around the edges but that's why Canada is here. To help them out, not make slanderous remarks.

The problem with the Liberals is, given all of their foibles, consider the alternatives. OMG there are no alternatives. So the Liberals will be in power until the conservatives provide an option that is palatable to the majority of the voters in the country (read more progressive than conservative). In other words a centrist conservative gov't. hey! that's what the Liberals are now!

So, I guess that what people want is to turf the old group of guys that are in power who are hold-overs from the Chretien era. But the Liberals wouldn't have gained such a strong foothold on power if it wasn't for the hate engendered by the Mulroney PC's. People always seem to forget the cyclic nature of voter preference in this country. It seems power is held by the party that is least hated. And it changes not based on policy, but on the desire to change.

Well the tit for tat lack of diplomacy on both the Americans as well as Canadians part certainly defines a gapping hole especially regarding leadership. But then again, leadership has nothing to do with it. It's all ego and power.

And I can't remember if any country whose departing planes were directed to Canada on 9/11 thanked Canada either.

This whole issue is so petty, and small minded. Why would we be so small as to want/expect a thankyou? Isn't it our duty as civic minded world citizens to accommodate to all who are in dire straits?

If your neighbour on your street had a house fire, wouldn't you take in their family until the emergency is over? would you expect anything in return? think of the emotional turmoil that they would be going through.

Yes It would have been nice to have been recognized by Mr. Bush when he was handing out praise to his sycophants (Blair etc) but I think that we are bigger than that. We helped a friend in need, and we can go forward in quiet confidence that we were there for them.

The wining is unbecoming.

Agreed. We're starting to sound a little "needy" here. Stop keeping score, dammit! ;)

sweet sweet

Mrs. Parrish's statement echoed my exact feeling about the US administration. I'm sick and tired of the US's new if you're not with us, you're against us. Yes I'm against the war in Iraq, they didn't prove anything, just that they have no clue why they went to war. Does this make me anti-American? I think George Bush is a putz, and he is slowly smothering the world, does this make me anti-American?

Mrs. Parrish only said what is on many Canadians minds, she's jus ta little more high profile, I was sorry to see Martin remove her from cabinet but I guess it doesn't go along with his new policy of having his lips wrapped around W's ass for the first day of his visit. Oh how I miss Chretien a PM who wasn't afraid to tell the US to go fuck themselves.

when you think about it...aside from america having a texan for a leader we really arent that different. granted paul martin never declared war on anybody...but he sure can waste money like george bush. caroyln parrish got her come uppins when she was fired. good riddance, i think that everyone who rises to a level of authority as her should realize the responsibility it entails. sure george is an idiot. so is paul. but should people (particularly members of a party in power) be bad mouthing these people with complete disregard for anything? of course not. to the same token, calling us canadians better than americans is completely naive and is an unbased opinion. seeing as we are similar to most of america.

end result...most of the population in both canada and america are really nice people who generally dont have huge presumptions that they stick to. the sad reality is that it is the few people who do have these presumptions that end up running our country. insert disappointment here _________.