Sion

Peetster:

!. yes, I do. The key is NOT to take a left at Albuquerque.

2. on average, 396.

3. depends. is this person a friend? then in person or by phone? if YOU are the one who is going to give this person a world of shit, then upside the head is the best method for delivering that message.

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monkeydriven

Do you have any yarbles?

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Peetster

Should I commute the vectors or integrate the curve?

Sion

monkeydriven: alas, I am yarbleless

Peetster: commute the curve and integrate the vectors.

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todd

When is my next TFP promotion?

Fly

wtf?

why the fuck?


....and where the fuck?


can you help me out on this one?

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Sion

everquestjoe: promotions here at TFP are merit based. when (if) Halx and the rest of the mods feel you've contributed enough, and shown enough inititiative, only then will you get promoted.

flyman: if you need to ask, yer not ready. sorry.

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Eugeni

Is it possible to predict the future?

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Kostya

This sentence is not true...

True or false?

todd

So my Titled rank was achieved by the same principle?

Somebody loves me!

Fly

holy shit!!!


how did you know i wasn't ready?

do you read minds?

if so.....what am i thinking at the moment you read my post here?

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Sion

Eugeni: I knew you were going to ask that.

Kostya: Kostya has performed an illegal function and will now be shut down.

everquestjoe: of course. and we all love you.

flyman:

sion always knows.

only if they are open.

you are contemplating how to improve the efficiency of the penis bong.

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Kostya

You can't shut me down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, consider the set of all sets which are not sets of themselves, is this set a self member? Or not???

Sion

Kostya: "sets which are not sets" though I know what it is you are asking, you might want to reword this. the answer is no.

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todd

Sion is a genius.

That was awesome.

Kostya

Ok dig this dude.

You can construct a set of anything right, as a mental construct. Such as the set of all humans ok. I'm in that set, you're in the set and so forth. Then you could have a set like 'the set of all sets', which means ANY set that could possible exist is a member of this set, including the set of all sets, thus it is a self member.

Now, consider all the sets which are not self members, is this set a self member or not?

If the answer is yes, then it is a self member and can't be a member of the set of all sets which are not self members.

If the answer is no, then it is not a self member and thus ought to be a member of the set of all sets which are not self members...

SO I don't see how the answer could be no...

Sion

everquestjoe: thanks.

Kostya: again, as I said, I know what it is you are saying (and you explained it very well, I might add) but this part of your question is a logical impossibility:

"sets which are not sets"

how can a set not be a set? a thing either is, or is not <some arbitrary descriptive>. if it is a set, then it can not NOT be a set.



what I was getting at is that your question was poorly worded. what you were trying to ask was this:

"Ok, consider the set of all sets which are not self-members, is this set a self-member? Or not???"

for example, let us take the set of all dogs. is it a self-member? no, because the defining characteristic is that the member objects are all dogs, not sets. so, the set of all sets which are not self-members includes any and all sets for which the defining characteristic of the member objects is something OTHER than being a set. so, can this set be a self-member? its defining characteristic necessitates that the member objects are sets which are NOT self-members. so a set which IS a self-member cannot be a part of a set of non-self-members. but as you said:

"If the answer is no, then it is not a self member and thus ought to be a member of the set of all sets which are not self members..."


or look at it from another perspective. let us look at what is a set. a set is a group of objects that all have at least one thing in common (ie they are all red, or they are all dogs, or whatever). now consider a group of things in which none of the member objects has anything in common with any other. that TOO is a set, because you can say that the one thing they have in common is that they have nothing in common. but then they no longer have nothing in common, now they have something in common. but we just defined these things as having nothing in common, then found something they have in common, which is having nothing in common. etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

the link between your example and mine: in each case, its a logic loop that yields no final answer or solution, just keeps turning back on itself.


now, here is where I have to admit that I did not word my answer as well as I should have. I should have said "no, that question cannot be answered".


man, my brain hurts now. where's flyman with some herb when you need him?

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Kostya

Do irritate you?

todd

What the hell is a set?

SixEdxMia

*blows smoke in your face*

Where have I been?

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Eugeni

Can you please illustrate the use of the word 'bust'?

Sion

Kostya: negative

everquestjoe: the answer to your question should be evident in the two long discussions (mine and Kostya's) about sets.

SixEdxMia: thanks. where the hell have you been, anyway.

Eugeni: that woman has a terrific bust.

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GakFace

Did you ever figure out how you got your keys in the middle of a frozen cheese log?

if so... How?
(don't blame this on the vodkarnians(this is also your and everyone elses hint as to where this question refers to))
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If you masturbate with clay... does god kill a porcelain kitten?

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Sion

that wasnt me with the cheese keys. (or was it, I cant remember) no, im pretty sure it wasnt me.

as for the Vodkarnians, its ALWAYS their fault. thats why they are universally loved.

masturbate with clay? remind me not to join any pottery classes with you.

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GakFace

they weren't cheese keys.. you somehow found your keys in a cheese log which was in the freezer...

Why did I ask the question of asking the questions?

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Sion

because you wanted the answers of the answers.

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Rubyee

When I get married, will I be wearing white?

Am I going to be rich when I grow up?

Why does my mouth taste like dog poo when I wake up?

Do I give the best BJ's in the world?

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gorilla

Did the dinosaurs eventually develope technology and cars, and the cars caused global warming, which caused their extinction?

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Peetster

Are you gonna finish that?

Can I have one?

gorilla

Why did my wallet get stolen? (and my cell phone for that matter)

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Sion

Rubyee:

1. That will be entirely up to you. That whole white dress = virgin thing is tres passe.

2. Since most people grow up not to be rich, Im gonna go with the odds and say no. Sorry.

3. Because my neighbor lets his Doberman shit in your mouth while you sleep. I've tried telling him to stop, but it does no good.

4. Dunno, why dont you come over this weekend and let me be the judge of your skills?


gorilla (good to see a new face in here, welcome): no


Peetster: yes and yes.


gorilla: coz some lowlife felt that he needed it more than you did. If I find him, I'll kick his ass for you.

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ruggerp11

What is your favorite brand of peanut butter?

annnnd

What kind of Jelly do you use in your PB&J sammwiches.

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mml

What happened in the split second before the Big Bang?

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gorilla

whats your phone number?

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Kostya

Godfather Part I, or Godfather Part II?

Sion

ruggerp11 (welcome also to another new face): Jif ExtraCrunchy. I dont eat pb&j sammiches. Its an unholy combination.

mml: the big fuse was lit

gorilla: 123-456-7890

Kostya: I dont make distinctions between the two. I view the Godfather films the same way I view the LoTR trilogy, as parts of a whole.

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jaco

why was the universe split into 4 and 6 dimensions?

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Kostya

The only acceptable answer...

You rule.

Ok,

Who's the most intriguing cat on TFP?

GakFace

Q?

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SixEdxMia

Meow?

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