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fresnelly 06-22-2008 01:27 PM

What best for killing Godzilla?
 
Okay bear with me here.

Last night I finally got around to watching the movie Cloverfield, where a giant monster rampages Godzilla-style through Manhattan.

A couple of the coolest scenes involved the military strikes againt it, from tanks and ground forces chasing after it to a stealth bomber carpet bombing it directly from above.

At the end of the movie, the monter's fate is unknown, although it's hinted that it's still alive, even after a so called "Hammer Down" operation which we never see.

So short of Nukes, what's available? How do you take out Godzilla in the real world?

MexicanOnABike 06-22-2008 01:34 PM

depending on how their health is, I would try a bio attack to calm it down and once it's out(dead or sleeping), you see how to possibly kill it otherwise.

now if they're 100% against any bio attack, then of course I would try the standard military gun/tank/air attacks. but seeing as that totally failed in most movies, I would try some sort of capture device from a hook to large chains or even a sort of bear trap.

debaser 06-22-2008 02:29 PM

I would use a GBU-24E/B Hard Target Penetrator. Supernatural or not, there aren't many creatures who can stand having 2000 lbs of high explosives detonate inside thier chest cavity...

Willravel 06-22-2008 02:40 PM

I'm more for neutralization, personally, which means the chemical route. I'll admit my first thought runs to a large dose of THC, but you don't want to make it more hungry. Perhaps the best way would be to simply expose the animal to an incapacitating chemical based on an opiate. Fentanyl would probably work just fine on most mammals, fish, birds, reptiles, amphibians, or insects. One would have to evacuate the area, of course, but rendering the chemical aerosol in close proximity to whatever orifice it breathes through in a decent dose would likely knock it out.

After it is unconscious, the task would be to keep it sedated while trying to move it.

ratbastid 06-22-2008 02:49 PM

And then what, Will? Back to Monster Island?

I don't mean to be callous, here. I'm as pro-rehabilitation as the next guy when it comes to human offenders, but for 20-story-tall monsters? No, death is the only long-term solution. Nothing we've got can contain it--King Kong proved that. The creature has to die and that's all there is to it.

Once it's unconscious, the most humane thing would be to drown it. Use a crane or a few heavy-lifting helicopters to lower it into the harbor. Send divers to monitor its life-signs until it's clearly deceased. Bonus: its body becomes nutrition for a huge resurgence of marine life! It's the circle of life, friends.

Willravel 06-22-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid
And then what, Will? Back to Monster Island?

No, Cesar Miilan.
http://muttnews.files.wordpress.com/...blog-photo.jpg

Neeways, an organism like that should be studied at length. If there are more, we need to know where they're coming from and why we didn't see them before. This means more than dissection. This means studying it's behaviors and habits. Not only that, but it'd represent an entirely new type of organism not seen possibly for hundreds of millions of years. It could even be alien in nature, which could suggest it was unleashed intentionally by a malevolent individual or organization.

The_Dunedan 06-22-2008 03:37 PM

Gotta say, I'm with Debaser on this one. That, or keeping an AC-130 circling over the monster and pounding 105's into the head. Failing that...call up the Russkies and borrow a TU-144 and a FOAB. If a 900-meter wide 4,000 degree fireball won't do the job, you're pretty much out of luck without going nuclear.

LoganSnake 06-22-2008 04:00 PM

Might try one of these:

http://static.flickr.com/46/132511542_5f7afe20f1.jpg

Hey, it worked for King Kong.

Also, might try this:


Cynthetiq 06-22-2008 04:15 PM

kaiju never never die... they just go into some sort of suspended animation.

sapiens 06-22-2008 05:35 PM

Or one of these:
http://www.memphisflyer.com/binary/8...oulterMmmm.jpg

MexicanOnABike 06-22-2008 06:44 PM

scary hands!!! bleh!

SSJTWIZTA 06-23-2008 02:00 AM

Woah! they are pretty scary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel
I'll admit my first thought runs to a large dose of THC, but you don't want to make it more hungry.

Not to mention all the local pot heads would run TOWARDS the monster to get their buzz on. free monster snacks, i guess.

i agreed that an organism of this sort should be studied, and not killed. but if all else fails, a nice thermobaric bomb or two could hopefully do the trick.

now to capture it unharmed would def. be a tough one. maybe theres a way we could convert tamahawks or side winders into giant tranquillizer darts, or maybe we could just tie a sack of Melatonin to a sheep and slap it on the ass to start in the monsters general direction. well, not melatonin, but you get the point.

or better yet, mecha godzilla 2.0?

-sigh- i love far-fetched ideas.

Charlatan 06-23-2008 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike
scary hands!!! bleh!

Oh. My. God.

So True.

Daniel_ 06-23-2008 06:34 AM

I'd want to knock it out for the reasons stated (study, etc)

What is true is that ONE of something implies MANY of something, and you want to know what might be coming next - is this a full grown adult, is it a juvenile, is it related to anything we have encountered before etc.

If sedation failed, I'd suggest a fuel/air bomb - if it has lungs that would at least stun it, and if it breathes through its skin, it should dry the thing out a fair bit.

I's also want to ensure that I tried to herd it towards the less populated and useful parts of the environment - if you do knock it down, having it fall on your downtown area would be a bugger.

ChrisJericho 06-23-2008 02:11 PM

Chainsaw.

Martian 06-23-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisJericho
Chainsaw.

Groovy.

SSJTWIZTA 06-23-2008 09:31 PM

was that an Evil Dead joke?

MSD 06-23-2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel
Perhaps the best way would be to simply expose the animal to an incapacitating chemical based on an opiate. Fentanyl would probably work just fine on most mammals, fish, birds, reptiles, amphibians, or insects.

I would go with Ketamine. K-hole the fucker, drill a hole through the scales to the nearest vein, and mainline it into him to keep him down.

RetroGunslinger 06-24-2008 07:21 PM

Patrick Swayze.

He'd rip Gojira's fucking throat out.

blade02 06-25-2008 06:59 PM

Well tanks and mobile artillery in a city full of sky scrapers is a dumb idea. So I'd most likely go for an air assualt. Common sense says you use weapons with a long stand off range. There are some pretty big missiles and bombs out there that I'm sure would do a number on any living organism.

That or if there's a large subway system, you could always fill it with some sort of explosive and create the world's largest IED.

Bear Cub 06-25-2008 07:07 PM

Fork and knife.


The world NEEDS to know if it does, in fact, taste like chicken.

sadistikdreams 06-25-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sapiens

Oh, so the female of it's species?

hmaxwell 06-26-2008 06:53 AM

What would I use?

Well, if it's within 15 miles of the shore, one of these, of course: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...adside_USN.jpg

blahblah454 06-26-2008 07:35 PM

Thats a lot of fire power.

Ash vs. Kaiju

Could make for a good movie. Unlimited bullets, chainsaw/ mechanical hand. We have a winner

Willravel 06-26-2008 09:15 PM

Heisei Godzilla died because his nuclear core finally melted down in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah. Maybe just wait it out?

Hain 06-26-2008 09:36 PM

I would fight it with something just as big and something just as unlikely.



EDIT: It's got lasers, it flies in space, jack-hammer-like impacting fists, missile fists, and a chainsaw where anatomically it would have wang- what monster could defeat this?

Willravel 06-26-2008 09:38 PM

OMG Robot Jox.

We need a Robot Jox smiley.

Hain 06-26-2008 09:40 PM

Fully.


UPDATE: Added my edit.

Martian 06-26-2008 10:14 PM

I don't understand the love of Robot Jox. I thought it was in the running for the worst film ever made.

It's recently been hypothesized that I could defeat Godzilla in an arm wrestling match. This is apparently a mysterious and ill-understood effect caused by my hat.

Hain 06-26-2008 10:30 PM

If I were to actually go about it, I would try something new as this is a new threat.
Quote:

View: [ANCHOR]Rods from God[/ANCHOR] (link)
Source: Popsci (http://www.popsci.com)
Abstract: "A pair of satellites orbiting several hundred miles above the Earth would serve as a weapons system. One functions as the targeting and communications platform while the other carries numerous tungsten rods—up to 20 feet in length and a foot in diameter—that it can drop on targets with less than 15 minutes’ notice."
Quote:

Rods from God
06.01.2004 at 4:30 pm
by Eric Adams
from Popsci, http://www.popsci.com



This technology is very far out—in miles and years. A pair of satellites orbiting several hundred miles above the Earth would serve as a weapons system. One functions as the targeting and communications platform while the other carries numerous tungsten rods—up to 20 feet in length and a foot in diameter—that it can drop on targets with less than 15 minutes’ notice. When instructed from the ground, the targeting satellite commands its partner to drop one of its darts. The guided rods enter the atmosphere, protected by a thermal coating, traveling at 36,000 feet per second—comparable to the speed of a meteor. The result: complete devastation of the target, even if it’s buried deep underground. (The two-platform configuration permits the weapon to be “reloaded” by just launching a new set of rods, rather than replacing the entire system.)

The concept of kinetic-energy weapons has been around ever since the RAND Corporation proposed placing rods on the tips of ICBMs in the 1950s; the satellite twist was popularized by sci-fi writer Jerry Pournelle. Though the Pentagon won’t say how far along the research is, or even confirm that any efforts are underway, the concept persists. The “U.S. Air Force Transformation Flight Plan,” published by the Air Force in November 2003, references “hypervelocity rod bundles” in its outline of future space-based weapons, and in 2002, another report from RAND, “Space Weapons, Earth Wars,” dedicated entire sections to the technology’s usefulness.

If so-called “Rods from God”—an informal nickname of untraceable origin—ever do materialize, it won’t be for at least 15 years. Launching heavy tungsten rods into space will require substantially cheaper rocket technology than we have today. But there are numerous other obstacles to making such a system work. Pike, of GlobalSecurity.org, argues that the rods’ speed would be so high that they would vaporize on impact, before the rods could penetrate the surface. Furthermore, the “absentee ratio”—the fact that orbiting satellites circle the Earth every 100 minutes and so at any given time might be far from the desired target—would be prohibitive. A better solution, Pike argues, is to pursue the original concept: Place the rods atop intercontinental ballistic missiles, which would slow down enough during the downward part of their trajectory to avoid vaporizing on impact. ICBMs would also be less expensive and, since they’re stationed on Earth, would take less time to reach their targets. “The space-basing people seem to understand the downside of space weapons,” Pike says—among them, high costs and the difficulty of maintaining weapon platforms in orbit. “But I’ll still bet you there’s a lot of classified work on this going on right now.”

In order to detain the beast long enough for this to be effective, I would push the target towards a defined location, where I would then detonate a bunch of subterranean charges making a hole- wouldn't be too deep, just enough to confuse the beast, and then splat! I can dream can't I?

blahblah454 06-27-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian
I don't understand the love of Robot Jox. I thought it was in the running for the worst film ever made.


Are you fucking kidding me? That movie gave me a massive hard-on the first time I watched (I was about 5), and it has yet to go away.

ratbastid 06-27-2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah454
Are you fucking kidding me? That movie gave me a massive hard-on the first time I watched (I was about 5), and it has yet to go away.

It must be difficult to purchase slacks.

I was thinking about this thread today, and I've come to the conclusion that preserving the creature alive and assuming we can come up with a way to contain it is the very definition of hubris. It has to die.

Fire 06-27-2008 07:30 PM

I agree- the whole eating manhattan thing and killing thousands + tends to put it out of the save the whales category- plus killing it was beyond them in the movie, so how the hell you gonna capture it, that being probably more difficult than shuffling it off the mortal coil..... so I figure that hitting it with fuel air explosives and offshore bombardment would work if anything would....

DivasToy 06-27-2008 08:16 PM

http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2...uck_norris.jpg

ottopilot 06-29-2008 09:26 AM

Your only real hope would be Mecha-Streisand

http://www.sancorazon.net/RUP/mecha-babs.jpg
http://www.dvdrama.com/imagescrit/mechastreisand.jpg
http://www.dvdrama.com/imagescrit2/g...stershaut1.jpg

Astrocloud 07-01-2008 12:20 PM


BadNick 07-01-2008 01:06 PM

Let's nominate Godzilla! No matter how much bad stuff Godzilla has done, as long as he's born in the U.S. he could run for president...or if his parents were citizens he could have been born elsewhere and still qualify. With a lame duck ...errr I mean lame monster congress, he will be left with no real powers.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...odzilla8za.png

ottopilot 07-01-2008 09:28 PM

Clooney vs Godzilla



That was the trailer...
see part one

Tophat665 07-02-2008 08:01 PM

No no no no. There are 2 things that are deadly to Gojira: Matthew Broderick and Puff Daddy.

ottopilot 07-23-2008 07:37 PM

Yoko Ono is our only hope for salvation.


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