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Old 04-13-2009, 05:09 PM   #5281 (permalink)
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I like to call him Ronnie RayGun ...but he gave that rousing speech and challenge at the Berlin Wall's Brandenburg Gate:


"Tear down this wall!" was the famous challenge from United States President Ronald Reagan to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy the Berlin Wall.

In a speech at the Brandenburg Gate commemorating the 750th anniversary of Berlin, by the Berlin Wall on June 12, 1987, Reagan challenged Gorbachev, then the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, to tear it down as a symbol of Reagan's desire for increasing freedom in the Eastern Bloc.
No too easy.

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reagan was an asshole...

berchtesgarden?

There you go again... insulting assholes.

No.

The place I'm in has a controversial connection to Ol' Ronnie Boy
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:15 PM   #5282 (permalink)
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How about thast stupid Bitburg visit he made?

Part way down in this reference Bitburg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia are some intersting points about this visit, such as:

This planned visit caused a great deal of anger outside of Germany. Many prominent government officials, U.S. Army officers, and celebrities, protested the planned visit. Concentration camp survivor and author Elie Wiesel spoke out on the topic at an unrelated White House ceremony, saying, "I... implore you to do something else, to find another way, another site. That place, Mr. President, is not your place." 53 senators (including 11 Republicans), signed a letter asking the president to cancel, and 257 representatives (including 84 Republicans) signed a letter urging Chancellor Kohl to withdraw the invitation. Former Army S/Sgt. Jim Hively mailed his World War II decorations, including a silver star and a bronze star, to Reagan in protest. The Ramones recorded the song "My Brain Is Hanging Upside Down (Bonzo Goes to Bitburg)," which alludes to Bedtime for Bonzo and Bonzo Goes to College, two movies from Reagan's film career that co-starred a chimpanzee, and Frank Zappa recorded "Reagan At Bitburg". Robyn Hitchcock's song The President from his album Element of Light also makes reference to the incident.

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EJ388623 - The Controversy over President Reagan's Visit to Bitburg: Strategies of Definition and Redefinition.
Abstract: A brief narrative description of the journal article, document, or resource. Examines transformation and transcendence as rhetorical strategies of definition and redefinition, in the controversy surrounding President Reagan's plan to visit the German war cemetery at Bitburg. Contrasts Reagan's scientistic perspective with his opponents' dramatistic perspective, and explores their clash in three dimensions: time, space, and judgment.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:59 AM   #5283 (permalink)
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How about thast stupid Bitburg visit he made?

Part way down in this reference Bitburg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia are some intersting points about this visit, such as:

This planned visit caused a great deal of anger outside of Germany. Many prominent government officials, U.S. Army officers, and celebrities, protested the planned visit. Concentration camp survivor and author Elie Wiesel spoke out on the topic at an unrelated White House ceremony, saying, "I... implore you to do something else, to find another way, another site. That place, Mr. President, is not your place." 53 senators (including 11 Republicans), signed a letter asking the president to cancel, and 257 representatives (including 84 Republicans) signed a letter urging Chancellor Kohl to withdraw the invitation. Former Army S/Sgt. Jim Hively mailed his World War II decorations, including a silver star and a bronze star, to Reagan in protest. The Ramones recorded the song "My Brain Is Hanging Upside Down (Bonzo Goes to Bitburg)," which alludes to Bedtime for Bonzo and Bonzo Goes to College, two movies from Reagan's film career that co-starred a chimpanzee, and Frank Zappa recorded "Reagan At Bitburg". Robyn Hitchcock's song The President from his album Element of Light also makes reference to the incident.

This struck me as a strange reference:
EJ388623 - The Controversy over President Reagan's Visit to Bitburg: Strategies of Definition and Redefinition.
Abstract: A brief narrative description of the journal article, document, or resource. Examines transformation and transcendence as rhetorical strategies of definition and redefinition, in the controversy surrounding President Reagan's plan to visit the German war cemetery at Bitburg. Contrasts Reagan's scientistic perspective with his opponents' dramatistic perspective, and explores their clash in three dimensions: time, space, and judgment.
That's it you're up Nick!
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:26 AM   #5284 (permalink)
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lemme guess, before he even enters it...

PITTSBURGH, PA?
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:41 AM   #5285 (permalink)
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Wow, you're good, unc. That's where I was going to go and you found me before I even got there! ....that's Erie!!! You're up, bud.































ps: give me til later this eastern U.S. morning to find a place
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:39 AM   #5286 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:41 AM   #5287 (permalink)
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Yellowstone National Park?
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:32 AM   #5288 (permalink)
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city boy by residence, country boy by heart

Tul, while I'm not there this time, I love Yellowstone...some of my fondest memories of personal adventures were when I was there for a week by myself, mid Spring before the tourists arrived and the place was just barely starting to wake up from Winter.


OK, where in the world am I? ...since we've been dancing in the WH, I am in fact in the WH.
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:48 AM   #5289 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:50 AM   #5290 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:52 AM   #5291 (permalink)
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les etats uni?
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:39 AM   #5292 (permalink)
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No, por supuesto, no.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:43 AM   #5293 (permalink)
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canadia?

(tully, mac, and them are just hangin' back while i do all the 'grunt' work...)
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:32 AM   #5294 (permalink)
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not canadia

(unc, good luck solving this one before those hangin' backers get wind of it)...extra clue just for you: not Mexico, either.
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:39 AM   #5295 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:48 AM   #5296 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:25 PM   #5297 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:04 PM   #5298 (permalink)
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man, "grunt" reminds me of the sound pigs make and so now I'm hungry for bacon!

It's always warm here.

Yes, an island.

Yes, east of the U.S. coast.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:06 PM   #5299 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:10 PM   #5300 (permalink)
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man, "grunt" reminds me of the sound pigs make and so now I'm hungry for bacon!

It's always warm here.

Yes, an island.

Yes, east of the U.S. coast.
Grunt reminds me of a US Marine.

Since UP said Bermuda can I say specifically Bimini?
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:08 PM   #5301 (permalink)
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agreed, "grunt" sounds like more of a military word than a bacon word, especially now that I had some sausage for dinner

So not Bermuda, or Bimini.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:43 PM   #5302 (permalink)
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Within 400 miles of the US coast?
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:49 PM   #5303 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:38 AM   #5304 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:36 AM   #5305 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:40 AM   #5306 (permalink)
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not Nassau, but in the Bahamas. I'm at a specific place that is of unusual geologic and visual interest.

Jahmaka nah.
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:44 AM   #5307 (permalink)
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Are U on Montserrat at the Soufriere Hills volcano?
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:47 AM   #5308 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009, 04:21 AM   #5309 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:32 AM   #5310 (permalink)
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coldhands, Montserrat is not in the Bahamas.

unc, not San Salvadore...this is a natural geologic feature, not a town/city/building or other man-made thing.

Tul, all of the Bahamas are south of the 40. In fact, the Bahamas are all south of the 30.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:09 AM   #5311 (permalink)
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How about the Great Bahama Bank (and I don't mean a savings and loan)?

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Old 04-15-2009, 07:42 AM   #5312 (permalink)
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Opps, missed where you said you were in Bahamas.

Let me think...
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:16 AM   #5313 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:30 AM   #5314 (permalink)
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not inagua, not let me think

but coldhands, while I'm not at the Great Bahama Bank, where I am is in the photo you posted...I'm waving "hello" but you probably can't see me since I'm so small
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:44 AM   #5315 (permalink)
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the third-longest barrier reef in the world, off andros island?
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:18 AM   #5316 (permalink)
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nope, but that is a fantastic natural wonder...man, I love the Bahamas!

Where I am is on Eleuthera.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:33 AM   #5317 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:46 PM   #5318 (permalink)
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never heard of that one, but I know I'm not there...head a little more south...probably less than 10 miles
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:06 PM   #5319 (permalink)
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ocean hole, in rock sound?

http://www.eleuthera.com/oceanhole.html
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:34 PM   #5320 (permalink)
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